From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Mar 01 15:44:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6416 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Mar 1999 15:44:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 6402 invoked from network); 1 Mar 1999 15:44:25 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Mar 1999 15:44:25 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA07254 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:50:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:50:18 -0500 (EST) From: S K I N N E R To: DarkStep Mailing List Subject: (DARKSTEP) Vote for some tunes. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk While working on the conncept for the darkstep's list. I decided to put a few 30 second ra samples online of some tunes to kinda define differnt artists so people "new to drum n bass" who are looking at or do join the list to learn from are arugments ;) :) :) could get an idea what they are headed into so people more into "fluff" wont waste thier time if they areally arnt into the sounds. So what am I rabling about? Ok I want a census of some toons (discuss amugst the list) of some track Ideas to use. Now they dont have to be the original definitive tracks. But toons that actualy all do make a statement in some form of sounds uses arangements etc. Im already looking at using Decurm ;-p ;-p ;-p heh :) :) Panacea, some Dom and Roland Tracks some Virus and Tech Ich stuff. A few under ground noisey tracks. But I want to get some other opnions on track titkls and artist . Also I want to work on compling a list of labels for people to look into. So submitting all the labels you like and or buy would be cool too if you have the time (or no social life like me ;l) ******************************************************************** Robert Skinner skinner{at}skinner[dot]org Black Monolith Records Gabber List Administrator Things To Come Records Darkstep List Administrator -------------------------------------------------------------------- Skinner's Personal Ego http://www.skinner.org Black Monolith Records http://www.blackmonolith.com Things To Come Records http://www.thingstocome.com Gabber List http://www.gabberlist.org Darkstep List http://www.darkstep.org ******************************************************************** From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Mar 04 22:30:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24132 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Mar 1999 22:30:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 24114 invoked from network); 4 Mar 1999 22:30:26 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Mar 1999 22:30:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990304222813.24117.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [192.138.213.195] by web4; Thu, 04 Mar 1999 14:28:13 PST Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:28:13 -0800 (PST) From: rando Subject: (DARKSTEP) labels To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Here is some of the labels I think are putting out good to great music: (I do not do anything at work....) RAM Recordings: Brain child of Andy C, Ant Miles and Shimon, ) Ram has put out a variety of great techy dance floor killers always staying ahead of the times while maitaining a unique sound. Tunes to check out: Mind Overload/Intercity (RAM Trilogy Pt 2) Funkstation/No Reality RMX (RAM Trilogy Pt 3) Audio Couture: Extension of Moving Shadow, is putting out some of the strongest DnB around. With each release being as strong or better than the previous, they have exposed new talent (ie 1998's best new producers, Calyx) as well as putting out strong releases by old favs (Dom an Roland). Tunes to check out: Cabin Fever - Calyx - A C DrumTrip RMX (DOM) - Kaotic Kemistry - A C Flashpoint - Biostasis - A C Photek Productions:. Unbelievable production with an ultra minimalist approach resulting in chilling tunes with a drummy feel on top of bone shaking sub-bass. Tunes to check out: Sub-Zero - Digital - Photek Prod. Form and Function (LP)- Photek- Photek Prod. Droppin' Science: Dark, breaky tunes with a little bit of a thunder feel, always keeping us on out toes. (ps if you liek this check out labels, Fuze, Juice, splash and East Side many producers work within this group of labels i.e, emmbee, magistrate, danny breaks...) Tunes to Check out: Solar Jive - Danny Breaks - Droppin Science 15 Dekweef - Dylan and Facs - Droppin Science 20 Technical Itch: What can one say, never backing down from the rough sharp technical side, this label has put forth so many wonderfully scary tunes. Tunes to check out: Mortex - Secret Methods - TECH ITCH (I forget) - Pure Instict - TECH ITCH Virus: Independent label offering from production masters Ed Rush and Optical, Very distinct style of subtle, dance-tech jungle. Superb production with consistent progression within each track. Tunes to check out: Wormhole (LP) - Ed Rush and Optical - Virus Gyration: Perhaps Germany's best label (depending on one's taste) .......dark dancefloor business. Producers TT Twister, Brubaker and provide the majority of their tunes. (Also special apperances by Warfare aka Panacea) Tunes to check out: Resonance - Tyrell - Gyration <----oh gosh! Shahadum/Locutus - Brubaker - Gyration Saigon: Mostly an outlet for MC RyhmeTyme's tracks, this No U Turn sister label has put out some ridiculous tunes. Rough breaks and dark funk.... Tunes to check out: Control - RhymeTyme - Saigon We Enter - RhymeTyme - Saigon Penny Black or Blood Recordings (no affiliation between the two): If you can find it, buy it...........Older tech maddness tunes to check out: Anything - You Can - Find These are a few I like-------- I may post more depending on how bored I get at work. peace == randy j shepherd aka rando <[bostonm a s s .| v e]> rando@earthalliance.com rand-e@rocketmail.com *checkout the ENDLESS webpage: (my emo/post-punk band) members.tripod.com/~endlesspage (under-construction) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 05 00:05:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5661 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Mar 1999 00:05:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 5530 invoked from network); 5 Mar 1999 00:05:46 -0000 Received: from orion.sfsu.edu (liseitz@130.212.10.236) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Mar 1999 00:05:46 -0000 Received: from localhost (liseitz@localhost) by orion.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA05239 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 16:05:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 16:05:39 -0800 (PST) From: LISA EMILY SEITZ Reply-To: LISA EMILY SEITZ To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) Labels Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I' interested in some strange d&b called "broken beats" Does anyone know about this stuff? The labesl that I've come across are Six Shooter, Uncivilized world, and Ambush which I have found at Isolate records in Berkeley, and in Amoeba (oddly enough). I agree with rando that RAM is definately one of the best out there as well as SAIGON, I listened to some Drop Science and Virus, but I would also include stuff by Dom and Roland. However, you can usually find this stuff at Compound, F8, etc. However, if anyone knows about " broken beats" or "granular beats", let me know. Thanks PS Check out UFO's new single, on Thermal Records, should be available now, "Science Fact b/s Enemy Infiltration", it has a similar rythm to RAM chpt 3. From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 05 17:55:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20527 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Mar 1999 17:55:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 20513 invoked from network); 5 Mar 1999 17:55:15 -0000 Received: from www.inx.de (root@195.21.255.251) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Mar 1999 17:55:15 -0000 Received: by www.inx.de (Smail3.2.0.96inx) from [195.21.164.96] (195.21.164.96) with smtp id ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 18:55:06 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Labels Date: Fri, 5 Mar 99 19:05:34 +0200 From: Dude To: "LISA EMILY SEITZ" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Lisa wrote: >I' interested in some strange d&b called "broken beats" Does anyone know >about this stuff? The labesl that I've come across are Six Shooter, >Uncivilized world, and Ambush which I have found at Isolate records in >Berkeley, and in Amoeba (oddly enough). Six Shooter is a belgium sublabel from Future Galactic and has 6 releases out yet... 4 are from the Somatic Responses, plus one by Joker and one by Senical. They're all pretty cool especially (IMO) the ones by Joker and Senical. Uncivilized World is a label runned by Laurent Ho aka Ho.Exe (aka Ingler), based in Paris, France. They released 8 records so far, all in the same mood and very very interesting. Ambush Records is one of my fav labels at the moment, they released seven 12inches so far... Try to pick them up all - if possible - even when the numbers 1-5 seem totally soldout... Ambush Records is owned by DJ Scud and Jason Skeet and comes straight from the South of London. Other good broken beat shit can be found on Praxis Records (check Base Force One 12", Society Of Unknowns 12"), Cavage Records (check no.1 by uht/Saoulaterre) and kool.POP (esp. the Society Suckers and the two releases w/DJ Scud, probably also the Geroyche vs Wintermute which is a bit different, probably more in the Noodles tradition, but still interesting...). Hope thats a little help... if you need more info feel free to ask... I'll try my best to answer... Dude From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 05 18:14:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8217 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Mar 1999 18:14:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 7938 invoked from network); 5 Mar 1999 18:14:24 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Mar 1999 18:14:24 -0000 Received: from BAYSECK@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv19.3) id vQWTa15953 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 13:13:44 -0500 (EST) From: BAYSECK@aol.com Message-ID: <53fdb2da.36e01ed8@aol.com> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 13:13:44 EST To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: (DARKSTEP) any info on the new DHR LTD release? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hello! im not sure if any of you are intrseted in DHR but does anyone have any info on the new dhr ltd release? how it sounds? i heard its by alec empire and called "Nintendo Teenage Robots" or some crud -derrick From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 06 01:22:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20399 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Mar 1999 01:22:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 20384 invoked from network); 6 Mar 1999 01:22:01 -0000 Received: from srv1.reelwest.bc.ca (207.194.197.99) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Mar 1999 01:22:01 -0000 Received: from intouch.bc.ca (unverified [207.194.197.200]) by srv1.reelwest.bc.ca (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Fri, 05 Mar 1999 17:20:51 -0800 Message-ID: <36E08270.D31A9C03@intouch.bc.ca> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 17:18:41 -0800 From: optic mystic Reply-To: opticmystic@techno.ca Organization: Siliconundrum X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dude CC: LISA EMILY SEITZ , darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Labels References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Lisa wrote: > if anyone knows about " broken beats" or "granular beats", let me > know. Thanks > "granular beats"...first time that I've heard of such a term...must be a reference to the use of (Mac) programs such as Super Collider & Csound...I know that Hecate has used these programs (...she went to school here in Vancouver last year), but she refused to categorize the sound/music whenever I asked her...seems that things have moved past the genre w/o a name stage...an interesting process anyways... http://www.leeds.ac.uk/music/Man/c_front.html Csound for pc http://www.audiomulch.com ..AudioMulch Dude wrote: > Six Shooter is a belgium sublabel from Future Galactic and has 6 releases > out yet... 4 are from the Somatic Responses, http://c8.com/somatics > plus one by Joker and one by > Senical. They're all pretty cool especially (IMO) the ones by Joker and > Senical. Six Shooter 6- Senical (Lasse Steen aka Choose aka Skullblower...etc) ..one track that is remixed or repurposed (or v.v.) on Sixsixtysix 8 & Killing Rate #? Sixsixtysix #?- Kings of Noise (aka Noizcreator) ...Six Shooter 7- Somatic Responses, track a3...whoa!...my intro. to the uh, (sub)genre or sound was SR on Drop Bass (Sixsixtysix...uh, mother label) http://www.execpc.com/~dropbass > Uncivilized World is a label runned by Laurent Ho aka Ho.Exe (aka > Ingler), based in Paris, France. They released 8 records so far, all in > the same mood and very very interesting. > Ambush Records http://c8.com/ambush > is one of my fav labels at the moment, they released seven > 12inches so far... Try to pick them up all - if possible - even when the > numbers 1-5 seem totally soldout... I think that there might be some copies of #5 floating around Vancouver... try: spooner@scratchreords.com ...there's another indy rock shop here (Zulu 604.738.3232) that's had it in stock as well > Ambush Records is owned by DJ Scud and Jason Skeet and comes straight > from the South of London. > Other good broken beat shit can be found on Praxis Records http://c8.com/praxis > (check Base > Force One 12", Society Of Unknowns 12"), Hecate #32 ...#23 (out of print :-( ) & others?...Zhark 3- Hecate Jacks Off The Jackal (Hecate & Christoph Fringeli aka Base Force One) > Cavage Records (check no.1 by > uht/Saoulaterre) and kool.POP (esp. the Society Suckers and the two > releases w/DJ Scud, probably also the Geroyche vs Wintermute which is a > bit different, probably more in the Noodles tradition, but still > interesting...). don't forget New Skin...New Skin is the absolute fucking shit imho! #1 Mwarf / Christoph Fringeli #2 "I Hate Flesh" ep Mwarf ...4 tracks / Chrtistoph Fringeli...1 track ...lacks the overlaying synth sounds that one tends to hear on Senical & Somatic Responses releases = more snippets of silence = more contrast = I like it! Mwarf (aka Dan Hekate, *not Hecate*) is also responsible for Ambush 5...his DJ'ing on the Datacide 5 webcast last month was phenomenal...awesome tracks, cool mixing Void (Void) a few of these artists have tracks up at: http://c8.com ==>tunes page also: tracks &/or elements here & there...Pressurehead (Surgeon 16 #?...split w/ UK Skullfuck), Audio Illusion 11, Hangars Liquides (I've only heard #3...La Peste) http://www.hangars-liquides.com (I think) Dr. Butcher MD (Freakshow 1...split w/ Opaque), Unibomber (Distort 2...split w/ Doormouse), Patric Catani (DHR Ltd #?), Alec Empire (Squeeze the Trigger" DHR#?) -- colin http://come.to/beatgrinder From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 06 18:01:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3049 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Mar 1999 18:01:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 3042 invoked from network); 6 Mar 1999 18:01:54 -0000 Received: from gandolf.dlab.com (HELO gandalf.dlab.com) (204.251.237.98) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Mar 1999 18:01:54 -0000 Received: from 204 ([208.12.254.142]) by gandalf.dlab.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with SMTP id 338 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 11:58:08 -0600 Message-ID: <36E16C9D.2CCC@dlab.com> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 11:57:49 -0600 From: "Jason Schroeder" Organization: Twelve Electronic Arts X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) real audio up! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk As of today! http://beats.supa.com listen to the "Jungle/Drum 'n Bass" section... just got my last mix on dere hey! _jason From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Mar 08 19:30:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28708 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Mar 1999 19:30:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 28676 invoked from network); 8 Mar 1999 19:30:18 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Mar 1999 19:30:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990308192808.6669.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.34.185.66] by web4; Mon, 08 Mar 1999 11:28:08 PST Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 11:28:08 -0800 (PST) From: rando Subject: (DARKSTEP) advance To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk was anybody at the Advance #03 release at Baktun in NYC Sat night? twas alot of fun. If anybody is interested this friday night from probly around 9 to 10 I am playing on AdvanceFM---> http://jungle.ffwd.com/advance/ live set preceded by dub plate session and interview talk to ya soon! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Mar 08 19:51:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9930 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Mar 1999 19:51:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 9717 invoked from network); 8 Mar 1999 19:51:25 -0000 Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.239) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Mar 1999 19:51:25 -0000 Received: from sfsu.edu (dhcp235-244.sfsu.edu [130.212.235.244]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA22524 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 11:50:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36E42992.5102F658@sfsu.edu> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 11:48:35 -0800 From: Lisa Emily Seitz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) What is darkstep? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk When I joined this list, I thought I knew what darkstep might be> Now,i'm not so sure> So perhaps someone could answer some questions. 1. What is darkstep exactly, I am familiar with the labels and artists rando posted last week, but how is darkstep really different from tech-step or any other jungle? 2. What DJs spin mostly darkstep? And specifically SF Bay Area DJs. 3. How is darkstep circulated, what kind of people listen to it, is it mostly a "intelligent" (I hate that term, myself) or is it played at raves or clubs or what? 4. Thanks, I appreciate it. ps I do listen to a lot of d&b and jungle, I don't know what specific genre it all falls into- so I'm not a total neophyte. I'm just trying to understand my musical world more clearly. pps How long has this list been in existence? From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Mar 08 19:59:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17758 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Mar 1999 19:59:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 17749 invoked from network); 8 Mar 1999 19:59:40 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Mar 1999 19:59:40 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA07411; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 15:05:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 15:05:15 -0500 (EST) From: S K I N N E R To: Lisa Emily Seitz cc: DarkStep Mailing List Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) What is darkstep? In-Reply-To: <36E42992.5102F658@sfsu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Lisa Emily Seitz wrote: :)When I joined this list, I thought I knew what darkstep might be> :)Now,i'm not so sure> So perhaps someone could answer some questions. :)1. What is darkstep exactly, I am familiar with the labels and artists :)rando posted last week, but how is darkstep really different from :)tech-step or any other jungle? This list deals with darkstep and techstep. People differ on what "darkstep" can be or is But the list was founded on the Ideal that darkstep is just a noisery darker (more evil) how ever you want to clasfiy it version of techstep :). How ever it had to be named either techstep or darkstep. The reason Dark was chosen was this. Think o fthe music choices landing on a bell curve we had to swing one way or the other. And the choice was more towards dark techstep and darkstep :) Thats whyy it has the name it does, how ever in the faq file it says right off the bat we deal with "dark"- step genres i.e just dark drumand bass :) Bit things tend to cross over and morph and that is also something to discuss. As for djs in your area shurg heh... But As for the rest of the questions I would Liket o see peoples opnions. :) Esp Since everyone will differ esp based on where they live and or how they were exposed to the music its self. ******************************************************************** Robert Skinner skinner{at}skinner[dot]org Black Monolith Records Gabber List Administrator Things To Come Records Darkstep List Administrator -------------------------------------------------------------------- Skinner's Personal Ego http://www.skinner.org Black Monolith Records http://www.blackmonolith.com Things To Come Records http://www.thingstocome.com Gabber List http://www.gabberlist.org Darkstep List http://www.darkstep.org ******************************************************************** From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Mar 08 20:03:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21448 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Mar 1999 20:03:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 21423 invoked from network); 8 Mar 1999 20:03:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.amdyne.net) (209.25.8.23) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Mar 1999 20:03:53 -0000 Received: by mail.amdyne.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 08 Mar 1999 14:56:06 -0500 Received: by mail.amdyne.net from carl [209.194.124.106] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 08 Mar 1999 14:56:05 -0500 Message-ID: <003601be699e$51d1b640$6a7cc2d1@carl> Reply-To: "Crucial Carl" From: "Crucial Carl" To: Subject: (DARKSTEP) Mixers Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 15:00:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Whats up all.. (wow my first post) I got a Intimidation Apex Gold mixer right now ... which is coolie & all.. but recently i saw Dara spin @ a club here in DC... Not just Dara but other djs' ive seen play records & make em sound so much different.. so much darker.. what mixer would u suggest & what features should i be looking for when i look @ em.. sampling (of course) but what else? thx much.. sorry if this post doesnt make much sense, but hopefully u can figure out what im trying to say =oP Carl From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Mar 08 21:47:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8123 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Mar 1999 21:46:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 7989 invoked from network); 8 Mar 1999 21:46:53 -0000 Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.239) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Mar 1999 21:46:53 -0000 Received: from sfsu.edu (dhcp235-244.sfsu.edu [130.212.235.244]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA23176 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 13:44:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36E44432.4A800563@sfsu.edu> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 13:42:10 -0800 From: Lisa Emily Seitz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) What is darkstep? References: <8244864d.36e43715@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does everyone else agree with this? I've heard RAW's mixtape and he seems to use a lot of rap samples, is rap part of the darkstep sound? thanks Igotdavibe@aol.com wrote: > Dj RAW spinn's darkstep From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Mar 08 22:44:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18866 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Mar 1999 22:44:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 18858 invoked from network); 8 Mar 1999 22:44:27 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Mar 1999 22:44:27 -0000 Received: from RyanEReid@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv19.3) id oDHUa12647; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:15:10 -0500 (EST) From: RyanEReid@aol.com Message-ID: <6fcd022e.36e44bee@aol.com> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:15:10 EST To: Lisa Emily Seitz , darkstep@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) What is darkstep? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk R.A.W. has somewhere around 30 tapes out, each with a distinct focus (darkstep, chillout beats, old school ragga techno/breakbeat, etc). I've never seen him in person or heard what he plays at parties, so I can't say that he doesn't play darkstep there. Hip-hop samples are not and have never been a big part of darkstep or techstep. My guess is that you heard one of his "jump-up" tapes. My impression has always been that darkstep is pretty removed from techstep. The tracks I've heard over the years that I and others defined as darkstep are usually slower, less distorted, more complex, and more "experimental" than techstep. The biggest difference to me is that techstep usually creates a mood of tension, with the distorted beats and squawking bass lines while darkstep is more concerned with atmospheres and a feeling of "coldness". I've always considered the bulk of works by Ed Rush, Optical, Matrix, Basic Unit, etc to be darkstep. As always I could be wrong. peas waveshape kyd From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Mar 08 22:50:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21938 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Mar 1999 22:50:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 21867 invoked from network); 8 Mar 1999 22:50:05 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Mar 1999 22:50:05 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA09198; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:56:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:56:20 -0500 (EST) From: S K I N N E R To: RyanEReid@aol.com cc: Lisa Emily Seitz , darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) What is darkstep? In-Reply-To: <6fcd022e.36e44bee@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Mar 1999 RyanEReid@aol.com wrote: :)My impression has always been that darkstep is pretty removed from techstep. :)The tracks I've heard over the years that I and others defined as darkstep are :)usually slower, less distorted, more complex, and more "experimental" than :)techstep. The biggest difference to me is that techstep usually creates a mood :)of tension, with the distorted beats and squawking bass lines while darkstep :)is more concerned with atmospheres and a feeling of "coldness". I've always :)considered the bulk of works by Ed Rush, Optical, Matrix, Basic Unit, etc to :)be darkstep. As always I could be wrong. :) be it dostreted experminalt noise chaos or minimal slow downed beat. The felling as you state above as I traslate it aas is a "gothic evil" felling or a "prime evil (on the nature side" feeling that emotion of Being full of energy and kinda Being revield some new knowledge. ******************************************************************** Robert Skinner skinner{at}skinner[dot]org Black Monolith Records Gabber List Administrator Things To Come Records Darkstep List Administrator -------------------------------------------------------------------- Skinner's Personal Ego http://www.skinner.org Black Monolith Records http://www.blackmonolith.com Things To Come Records http://www.thingstocome.com Gabber List http://www.gabberlist.org ******************************************************************** From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Mar 09 00:53:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12568 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Mar 1999 00:53:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 12549 invoked from network); 9 Mar 1999 00:53:27 -0000 Received: from copland.udel.edu (128.175.13.92) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Mar 1999 00:53:27 -0000 Received: from localhost (kenya@localhost) by copland.udel.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19500; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 19:53:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 19:53:32 -0500 (EST) From: Jon Thomas Bekefy To: Lisa Emily Seitz cc: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) What is darkstep? In-Reply-To: <36E44432.4A800563@sfsu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > Does everyone else agree with this? I've heard RAW's mixtape and he > seems to use a lot of rap samples, is rap part of the darkstep sound? > thanks sure why not? you dont listen to much "Darkstep" if you are just now hearing "rap" samples............ > > Igotdavibe@aol.com wrote: > > > Dj RAW spinn's darkstep > either you run with us or you run into us.......................... ******************************************************************* _________________________ _____ _________ * ___ |_ ____/_ /___(_)__ _______ __ /___________ / * __ /| | / _ __/_ /__ | / / __ `/ __/ _ \ __ / * _ ___ / /___ / /_ _ / __ |/ // /_/ // /_ / __/ /_/ / * /_/ |_\____/ \__/ /_/ _____/ \__,_/ \__/ \___/\__,_/ magazine. * * ******************************************************************* "..I use my mind's eye and teach my soul to fly high............" * ******************************************************************* From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Mar 09 01:33:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11706 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Mar 1999 01:33:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 11654 invoked from network); 9 Mar 1999 01:33:25 -0000 Received: from gate.ea.com (HELO ea.com) (159.153.89.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Mar 1999 01:33:25 -0000 Received: from iloyd (4-21-36-124.ea.com [4.21.36.124] (may be forged)) by ea.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA22492 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:28:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990308172826.008b55c0@shell13.ba.best.com> X-Sender: poop@shell13.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 17:28:26 -0800 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org From: i a n l o y d Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) What is darkstep? In-Reply-To: <36E42992.5102F658@sfsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ==It'd be tough to draw hard lines around what it is. For me its anything that is mostly drumnbass combined with evil, darker overtones (be it noise, eeerie sounds, screaming). And not necessarily from your usual DnB camps. >>2. What DJs spin mostly darkstep? And specifically SF Bay Area DJs. ==I'd say UFO! does more of a darker set usually. His toons are definitely dark in the sense that they reveal a certain eerieness and tension. But he's not exclusively darkstep (ex: Bambataa is not all that dark IMO). ==I also do the darker style myself but again, not limited to it. ==Labels: Gyration, DonQ, Precision Breakbeat, (Position) Chrome, Kultbox, Virus, RAM, Some Droppin Science, Some TOV, Audio Blueprint, Moving Shadow, Thermal Recordings, Groove Attack, DHR, White Breaks, Ambush, Tech Itch to name just a few. ==I also do a bit of producing on the darkside of things: http://www.nougat.com -ian/poop ian.loyd. p i x e l . p u s h e r . a n i m a t o r . e l e c t r o n i c . a r t s . o n l i n e . http://www.ea.com 650.628.7625 From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Mar 09 07:53:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25788 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Mar 1999 07:53:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 25776 invoked from network); 9 Mar 1999 07:53:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bbs.clubtek.com) (206.12.82.232) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Mar 1999 07:53:08 -0000 Received: from MHS by bbs.clubtek.com with MHS id BHDLBGAP ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 23:59:44 -0800 Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 23:59:22 -0800 From: holt@clubtek.com Message-ID: Subject: (DARKSTEP) labels To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Nobody mentioned chrome? Too obvious? >Granular Beats? Take a closer look at your amputate records sticker. No one mentioned amputate did they? >know that Hecate has used these programs (...she went to school here in >Vancouver last year), but she refused to categorize the sound/music whenever >I asked her...seems that things have moved past the genre w/o a name >stage...an interesting process I think she would still be opposed to any sort of name for it. Can you blame her? Who really wants their art to be defined? Consumers I tell you (sorry inside joke)!?! > Ambush Records > is one of my fav labels at the moment, they released seven > 12inches so far... Try to pick them up all - if possible - I AM! I AM! GOD DAMN IT! All I need is #1! Any chance someone has a copy for sale? >don't forget New Skin...New Skin is the absolute fucking shit imho! >#1 Mwarf / Christoph Fringeli >#2 "I Hate Flesh" ep Mwarf ...4 tracks / Chrtistoph Fringeli...1 track Fuck yeah! If you crank #1 up on a good set of subs and press your ass against the speaker, all your tape worms will crawl right out and die. No shit! Tell your doctor now!!! >Void (Void#1) What speed is this? Both? This record confuses me in a lot of ways. Anyone else have it? >Hangars Liquides (I've only heard #3...La Peste) #1+2 on HL are noisy experimental speedcore. Definitely not "tech step" tinged but still fileable under "Broken beats". Me Likes! Other labels not mentioned yet are..... White breaks (frankfurt) Kultbox Hymen Vinyl communications (sometimes) Possible rec. (most of this is snooze to me. but others will argue) Sub-rosa (from time to time they put out arty dark stuff) Soleilmoon (check out the "noisy experimental" stuff by Muslumgauze) Mego(sometimes) Carpinthia (do they do wax?) I know a lot of these are not "style" specific. However when digging for gold...... On a non-label related note. One of my faves is Locust's "truth is born of arguments" LP on Appolo (R&S ambient sub-label). The first record is sweet! Another option is making your cheesy old jump-up shit harder and noisier by connecting distortion pedals between your tables and mixer..... Boom Boom Chah, Boom Boom CRUNCH! Boom Boom Cha Cha, Boom Boom CRUNCH! etc, Fun stuff! but, wut du I no? -DJSeedy BEAT GRINDER http://come.to/beatgrinder Saturday March 13 1999 Vancouver BC Canada From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Mar 09 14:34:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8892 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Mar 1999 14:33:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 8834 invoked from network); 9 Mar 1999 14:33:50 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Mar 1999 14:33:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19990309141812.12278.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.34.185.66] by web1; Tue, 09 Mar 1999 06:18:11 PST Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 06:18:11 -0800 (PST) From: rando Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Mixers To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk IMO the mixers that I have found to give the most control over the music have been either the pioneers djm300 (<--I own one) and djm500 or the vestax PMC05, PMC17a and PMC46. I think most people will agree that the quality of these mixers surpasses most other brands. The quality of the featured controls on each of these mixers is for the most part very high. Rotary eq, proper crossfader and precise, gradual volume control are just a few of teh features makes these mixers better. In addition the V46 features an adjustable crossfader to adjust senseitivity when scratching and the P500 features an internal effects processor. The other thing to remember is that on a proper sound system tunes sound much better. The reason Daraugh may have made tunes "sound darker" is that on a club system sub-bass and extraneous noise is much more audible than on the average home system. hope that helps! == randy j shepherd aka rando <[bostonm a s s .| v e]> rando@earthalliance.com rand-e@rocketmail.com *checkout the ENDLESS webpage: (my emo/post-punk band) members.tripod.com/~endlesspage (under-construction) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Mar 09 14:46:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14843 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Mar 1999 14:46:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 14723 invoked from network); 9 Mar 1999 14:46:05 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Mar 1999 14:46:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990309144355.15771.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.34.185.66] by web4; Tue, 09 Mar 1999 06:43:55 PST Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 06:43:55 -0800 (PST) From: rando Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) What is darkstep? To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk "Hip-hop samples are not and have never been a big part of darkstep or techstep." ----Trace actually used to use alot of hiphop samples in some early techstep I've always considered the bulk of works by Ed Rush, Optical, Matrix, Basic Unit, etc to be darkstep. ----I think alot of people would consider these guys to be techstep pioneers with darkstep being more on the "musique-concrete"-"hardcore jungle" side ---->ie panacea. The techstep sound is ususlly mainstream british stuff, although Ambush and the like are british also they do not consitiute the jungle that is heard all hours of the day on major radio stations. I would say darkstep (as pertains to this list) is the more experimental, avante garde less dance oriented stuff. == randy j shepherd aka rando <[bostonm a s s .| v e]> rando@earthalliance.com rand-e@rocketmail.com *checkout the ENDLESS webpage: (my emo/post-punk band) members.tripod.com/~endlesspage (under-construction) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Mar 09 20:40:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5134 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Mar 1999 20:40:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 5125 invoked from network); 9 Mar 1999 20:40:42 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Mar 1999 20:40:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990309202502.24243.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.34.185.66] by web1; Tue, 09 Mar 1999 12:25:02 PST Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:25:02 -0800 (PST) From: rando Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) What is darkstep? *addendum* To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk oh yeh.... I almost forgot.... genres are useless :) == randy j shepherd aka rando <[bostonm a s s .| v e]> rando@earthalliance.com rand-e@rocketmail.com *checkout the ENDLESS webpage: (my emo/post-punk band) members.tripod.com/~endlesspage (under-construction) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 10 18:03:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27329 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Mar 1999 18:02:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 27202 invoked from network); 10 Mar 1999 18:02:04 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Mar 1999 18:02:04 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA06310 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:08:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:08:38 -0500 (EST) From: S K I N N E R To: DarkStep Mailing List Subject: (DARKSTEP) ADMIN: Just a test delte this Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Testing a new filter! ******************************************************************** Robert Skinner skinner{at}skinner[dot]org Black Monolith Records Gabber List Administrator Things To Come Records Darkstep List Administrator -------------------------------------------------------------------- Skinner's Personal Ego http://www.skinner.org Black Monolith Records http://www.blackmonolith.com Things To Come Records http://www.thingstocome.com Gabber List http://www.gabberlist.org ******************************************************************** From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Mar 11 16:41:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 554 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Mar 1999 16:41:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 238 invoked from network); 11 Mar 1999 16:41:39 -0000 Received: from srv1.reelwest.bc.ca (207.194.197.99) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Mar 1999 16:41:39 -0000 Received: from intouch.bc.ca (unverified [207.194.197.132]) by srv1.reelwest.bc.ca (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 08:40:30 -0800 Message-ID: <36E7F1D8.3159E175@intouch.bc.ca> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 08:39:52 -0800 From: optic mystic Reply-To: opticmystic@techno.ca Organization: Siliconundrum X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: - Subject: (DARKSTEP) Beat Grinder shoutcast Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Beat Grinder exploring the outer edges of contemporary beats... ...minimal.abstract.abrasive.extreme... Sat. March 13, 4pm-1am pst @The Church of Pointless Hysteria 110 W. Hastings, Vancouver Canada $10 @the door downstairs... 4-5 interactive Terroraoke -aka James Last records + open mic- 5-7 Magnetic Bubble -surprise- 7-9 DJ OD -hard, hard house- 9-10 Miss X -tekno/chill- 10-12 Tobias -minimal- 12-1 Denny Lajeunesse -experimental/minimal tekno- (live) upstairs & at: http://209.82.27.70:8000 -see sig. or visit http://www.shoucast.com (& http://www.winamp.com if you don't already have winamp)- 4-5:35 Clone -genericatharsis- 5:35-6:35 Shit for Brains -hard skull-grindings- (live) 6:35-8:10 Seedy -harshcore- 8:10-9:15 Orguss : the.foE\hammer (fr. Seattle) -manic breaks, pummelling gabber- (live) 9:15-10:45 Bad Feng Shui -ambient to noise to unclassified- (live) 10:45-11:30 Musikill -performing a rare beat-oriented set- (live) 11:30-1 Cyclic -eclectic...very resonant- (live) -- colin http://come.to/beatgrinder vancouver.canada/sat.3.13.4pm-1am.pst shoutcast: http://209.82.27.70:8000 open winamp/open location ctrl-L From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Mar 18 16:49:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8682 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Mar 1999 16:49:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 8674 invoked from network); 18 Mar 1999 16:49:08 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Mar 1999 16:49:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990318163315.2683.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.34.185.66] by web1; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 08:33:14 PST Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 08:33:14 -0800 (PST) From: rando Subject: (DARKSTEP) ? To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hello? is anybody out there? anyways, anybody hear anything they like lateley? new hardware triplepack promo is good, Germ RMX by the suspects and Beachball by Ed and Optical......... any new hardcore stuff that is cool? bored with most new releases.... == randy j shepherd aka rando <[bostonm a s s .| v e]> rando@earthalliance.com rand-e@rocketmail.com *checkout the ENDLESS webpage: (my emo/post-punk band) http://members.tripod.com/~endlesspage (under construction) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 19 19:04:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8467 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Mar 1999 19:04:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 8460 invoked from network); 19 Mar 1999 19:04:22 -0000 Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.239) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Mar 1999 19:04:22 -0000 Received: from sfsu.edu (dhcp235-244.sfsu.edu [130.212.235.244]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA28620; Fri, 19 Mar 1999 11:01:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36F29E7D.DAA9316F@sfsu.edu> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:59:10 -0800 From: Lisa Emily Seitz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rando CC: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) ? References: <19990318163315.2683.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just what I was thinking? This list is the quietest one I've been on, but it's o.k., because it's the nicest and smartest one I've been on as well. Well -here's my input- I just bought a few new records that might be interesting-I just got them this week so I don't fell I can adaquately "review" them. So I won't. But I'll recommend getting it anyway. 1.Cube & Sphere on Separator Rocord- from what I can tell, this is the first release off of this record label- hard hitting jungle. 2. E-sassin (from LA) "Rokkit" and I think - "Runaway" off of Sound Sphere Record. I 've been looking for "Rokkit" for several months now since I heard Phunkateck crew spin this one. The bas line is nice and heavy-deep. Plus I've been listening to E-sassin's mixtape- "Dreams/ Nightmares-someting like that- anyway, very dark, with some really weird tracks- one with a gabber-like bass. I'm personally looking forward to more of his stuff. 3. Void records "Bodyhammer" on the A-side I don't know anything about this at all. 4. Known/Unknown "Chaos" "Rollers" Off of Moving Shadow Limited- I think Dom&Roland remix this or something I'm not sure. 5. Off course - Dom &Roland's "Parasite" Maybe I'm just lame -but most of what I 've hear from D&R fits my aesthetis desires. Maybe it's the old "industrial/goth" in me, but he builds incredibly dark -atmospheric sounscapes and kicks in with a deep heavy crunchy ( sometimes rolling) bassline. It's intricate and I like it. I'm on the West Coast- so what we may get out here is probably different from the rest of the world-obviously. So anyway I was just curious-who's all on this list and where are you all living? thanks, lisa rando wrote: > hello? > > is anybody out there? > > anyways, anybody hear anything they like lateley? new hardware > triplepack promo is good, Germ RMX by the suspects and Beachball > by Ed and Optical......... > > any new hardcore stuff that is cool? > > bored with most new releases.... > > == > randy j shepherd aka rando > <[bostonm a s s .| v e]> > rando@earthalliance.com > rand-e@rocketmail.com > > *checkout the ENDLESS webpage: (my emo/post-punk band) > http://members.tripod.com/~endlesspage (under construction) > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 19 20:11:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17785 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Mar 1999 20:11:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 17776 invoked from network); 19 Mar 1999 20:11:02 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Mar 1999 20:11:02 -0000 Received: from RyanEReid@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv19.3) id vHAOa01940 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 1999 15:08:50 -0500 (EST) From: RyanEReid@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 15:08:50 EST To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) ? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm on the list in Jacksonville, Florida. Unfortunately, hardly anyone still listens to any drum&bass here. The only ones who do listen to the jazzy wank stuff. Our local electronic music record store is run by 25-35 year old progressive house DJ's with no other employment skills and some real attitude problems and they never have anything remotely close to darkstep or techstep. I spend most of my money on equipment and junk now anyway, so my intake is limited to what my friends play for me, my old records, and the crap I produce. Hopefully I'll have some stuff online to listen to soon.. peas waveshape kyd From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 19 22:04:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23588 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Mar 1999 22:04:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 23472 invoked from network); 19 Mar 1999 22:03:49 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Mar 1999 22:03:49 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA58725; Fri, 19 Mar 1999 17:06:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 17:06:02 -0500 (EST) From: S K I N N E R To: DarkStep Mailing List cc: spike@planetxusa.com Subject: (DARKSTEP) Source for Records (Was- Re: ?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 19 Mar 1999 RyanEReid@aol.com wrote: :)I'm on the list in Jacksonville, Florida. Unfortunately, hardly anyone still :)listens to any drum&bass here. The only ones who do listen to the jazzy wank :)stuff. Our local electronic music record store is run by 25-35 year old :)progressive house DJ's with no other employment skills and some real attitude :)problems and they never have anything remotely close to darkstep or techstep. Not just for Mr. Reid, but over at our wonderful NJ store Planet X we got a kick ass collection of Darkstep and Techstep. For those of you in areas where your store seems to cater to more of the mainstream happy music :) this might be a good option for you. Spike and The Shilu, having no lives, put all or mot of the stuff online in Real Audio format. This enables you listen before you chose to buy or not. It's a good collection, and the site is great for online ordering. (95% of what Satellite or Break Beat Science gets, PX also gets) and they have a Better Website ******************************************************************** Robert Skinner skinner{at}skinner[dot]org Black Monolith Records Gabber List Administrator Things To Come Records Darkstep List Administrator -------------------------------------------------------------------- Skinner's Personal Ego http://www.skinner.org Black Monolith Records http://www.blackmonolith.com Things To Come Records http://www.thingstocome.com Gabber List http://www.gabberlist.org ******************************************************************** From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 20 04:45:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6917 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Mar 1999 04:45:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 6908 invoked from network); 20 Mar 1999 04:45:11 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Mar 1999 04:45:11 -0000 Received: from poopycakes (poop.vip.best.com [206.86.222.63]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id UAA22688 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 1999 20:43:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990319203527.008b58d0@shell13.ba.best.com> X-Sender: poop@shell13.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 20:35:27 -0800 To: DarkStep Mailing List From: i a n l o y d Subject: (DARKSTEP) i cant even begin to describe... In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk okay this is disturbing but made me laugh out loud. http://dmhc.student.harvard.edu/coyote/coyote.html d j p o o p blackplastichabits http://www.nougat.com http://www.urbansounds.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 20 17:29:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25872 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Mar 1999 17:29:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 25863 invoked from network); 20 Mar 1999 17:29:18 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Mar 1999 17:29:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990320171325.1156.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [128.197.9.112] by web1; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 09:13:25 PST Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 09:13:25 -0800 (PST) From: rando Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) i cant even begin to describe... To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OH MY GOD JESUS H. JUNKED UP CHRIST ON A POPSICLE STICK, THAT IS FUCKED == randy j shepherd aka rando <[bostonm a s s .| v e]> rando@earthalliance.com rand-e@rocketmail.com *checkout the ENDLESS webpage: (my emo/post-punk band) http://members.tripod.com/~endlesspage (under construction) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Mar 23 16:43:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7538 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Mar 1999 16:43:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 7525 invoked from network); 23 Mar 1999 16:43:34 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Mar 1999 16:43:34 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA04891 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:50:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:50:55 -0500 (EST) From: S K I N N E R To: DarkStep Mailing List Subject: (DARKSTEP) Mailing List Webpage. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well in a week or so we will be putting up the webpage for the list. If any of you prodcuers and or People who play prodcurs music o yea you DJ people ;) Have webpages dedicated to the sed above things that you do Please email me the liks and I will establish them on the site. Please put DSLL as the subject, since I added a filter to my procmail to seperated that mail. Also note if you unsubscribe or change email addy's the link will autoremove since I wrote a perl scrit that keeps the links validated and active as long as that email adress (orinaly set up when im emailed) is still active on the list. ******************************************************************** Robert Skinner skinner{at}skinner[dot]org Black Monolith Records Gabber List Administrator Things To Come Records Darkstep List Administrator -------------------------------------------------------------------- Skinner's Personal Ego http://www.skinner.org Black Monolith Records http://www.blackmonolith.com Things To Come Records http://www.thingstocome.com Gabber List http://www.gabberlist.org ******************************************************************** From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Mar 23 21:22:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5707 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Mar 1999 21:22:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 5406 invoked from network); 23 Mar 1999 21:22:10 -0000 Received: from edam.direct.ca (@199.60.229.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Mar 1999 21:22:10 -0000 Received: from mut-53-0270.direct.ca ([216.66.132.166] helo=clone) by edam.direct.ca with smtp (Exim 2.02 #21) id 10PYcR-0007Zx-00; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 13:21:51 -0800 Message-ID: <01a901be7573$267a7140$878742d8@clone> Reply-To: "optic mystic" From: "optic mystic" To: "-" Subject: (DARKSTEP) fwd: event/netcast Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 13:21:39 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok...Wednesday March 24, London UK From: rkozak@vfs.com Date: March 23, 1999 9:08 AM Subject: BIRTHDAY BADASS >Hey all- > >Once again we are having an event at BACKSPACE at CLINK >STREET(WhinchesterWharf) LONDON BRIDGE,this time for Christoph Fringeli's >birthday. If in London come down for some drinks and music from around >8:30-12:30, if not check the REALMEDIA stream live from Backspace!! >http://bak.spc.org/radio/live.ram >DJs- >Christoph Fringeli (Praxis)-the birthdayboy himself >Luke-from Hekate sound system >Kim and Chantal-from Void >Patric C.-from DHR >and possibly a 15 min. live set from a guy who we have never heard before, >Tommy Concrete. > >We'll be broadcasting some cult videos at the same time.... >hope to have you there. > >Cheers- >Rachael Kozak From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 24 07:26:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6782 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Mar 1999 07:26:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 6775 invoked from network); 24 Mar 1999 07:26:22 -0000 Received: from www.clubtek.com (HELO bbs.clubtek.com) (204.244.144.100) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Mar 1999 07:26:22 -0000 Received: from MHS by bbs.clubtek.com with MHS id BHCADKEM ; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 23:33:20 -0800 Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 23:32:58 -0800 From: holt@clubtek.com Message-ID: Subject: (DARKSTEP) where y'all frum To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk From: Lisa Emily Seitz >3. Void records "Bodyhammer" on the A-side I don't know anything about >this at all. What speed DO YOU like it at? Get two copies, you will like it even better. I find that record very slick for some reason. >Maybe it's the old "industrial/goth" in me, >I'm on the West Coast- so what we may get out here is probably different >from the rest of the world-obviously. So anyway I was just curious-who's >all on this list and where are you all living? thanks, lisa Well I am on the westcoast too. North of the stinkin' border in Vancouver. Heroin addict capital of Canada. "You crank'em, they bank em!" Rains here LOTS, which makes the atmosphere dark and gloomy just like in horror movies(that get shot here allot too for that very reason). Suicide rate is pretty high here and so are depression levels. Our darkest electronic claims to fame over the years are/were Skinny Puppy/Download/etc, Frontline Assembly, The Haters, Numb, Philth and countless goth bands that are not worth mentioning here. There are a lot of basement tape/noise noodlers here too but they rarely leave their basements or manage to get past a whack of tape releases or a 7" or 2 (but bless them for those little 7" noise toys!). Aside from this city's "industrial/goth" past, it has done little to stimulate or support much experimental/hardcore/dark beat culture. A lot of the old industrial fans here have gotten into goa-trance. Does that make sense? Not a lot of darkstep or techstep. >From: RyanEReid@aol.com >I'm on the list in Jacksonville, Florida. Unfortunately, hardly anyone still >listens to any drum&bass here. The only ones who do listen to the jazzy wank >stuff. Our local electronic music record store is run by 25-35 year old >progressive house DJ's with no other employment skills and some real attitude >problems and they never have anything remotely close to darkstep or techstep. Are you sure your in Jacksonville,FL? Sounds like your talking about Vancouver. Hah! No, it is not all that bad. At least we have Scratch records. Sometimes it's just not enough to keep the darkside alive though. >produce. Hopefully I'll have some stuff online to listen to soon.. Waiting patiently. -Seedy From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Mar 25 18:23:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25540 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Mar 1999 18:23:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 25531 invoked from network); 25 Mar 1999 18:23:15 -0000 Received: from gate.ea.com (HELO ea.com) (159.153.89.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Mar 1999 18:23:15 -0000 Received: from iloyd (4-21-36-204.ea.com [4.21.36.204] (may be forged)) by ea.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA10186; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:18:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990325101746.008b0e50@shell13.ba.best.com> X-Sender: poop@shell13.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:17:46 -0800 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org From: i a n l o y d Subject: (DARKSTEP) Attn southbay heads: Cc: sf-jungle@saturn5.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ATTN. those in the south bay area: The Gyna [Drum n Bass] on KSCU 103.3 Fm moves to saturday: The new slot is 5pm to 7pm. Request line: 554-KSCU And to kick it off I'll be droppin new poop-plates. hope they dont break. heh. -ian poop:// mixing acids with bass to yield a chemical reaction http://www.nougat.com http://www.urbansounds.com http://www.ea.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 26 05:54:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19420 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Mar 1999 05:54:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 19404 invoked from network); 26 Mar 1999 05:54:05 -0000 Received: from ns3.lisco.com (HELO franklin.lisco.net) (root@206.26.90.190) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Mar 1999 05:54:05 -0000 Received: from [198.69.183.110] (fairfield110.lisco.net [198.69.183.110]) by franklin.lisco.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA08310; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 23:53:53 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 00:05:50 -0500 To: gabber@hyperreal.org, , From: "shawn o'sullivan" Subject: (DARKSTEP) portland/seattle Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, i'm gonna be headin out to the northwest over spring break, i'll be in tacoma, seattle, and portland, and i was wondering if there were any record stores i should know of. thanks, shawn o'sullivan From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 26 22:16:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12503 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Mar 1999 22:16:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 12488 invoked from network); 26 Mar 1999 22:16:02 -0000 Received: from web707.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.27) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Mar 1999 22:16:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990326221457.1876.rocketmail@web707.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [142.103.108.216] by web707.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 14:14:57 PST Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 14:14:57 -0800 (PST) From: hello mikie Subject: (DARKSTEP) [dark] attn: djs/acts in the northwest To: darkstep list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk are you worthy? looking for innovative djs and acts to book in vancouver, bc. email privy, thanks. mikie _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 27 00:31:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11852 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Mar 1999 00:31:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 11841 invoked from network); 27 Mar 1999 00:31:20 -0000 Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.239) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Mar 1999 00:31:20 -0000 Received: from sfsu.edu (dhcp235-244.sfsu.edu [130.212.235.244]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA25799 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:30:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36FC2610.96DF4572@sfsu.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:28:01 -0800 From: Lisa Emily Seitz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) Phunckateck Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Bay Area Darksteppers, Abstract of Phunckateck crew will be having a record release this Sun. March 28, at 111 Minna St. in S.F. The record is off his own new label, Pneuma. So if you can, check it out. I think UFO will be spinning as well. P.S. Does anyone know about Konter label. I just bought a track off of this label, and it's very interesting, so any info would be helpful. This week, on the other hand, has been a slow one for releases, the only track I got a hold of is Makai's "Beneath the Mask" it has a turning beta, a nice departure from tech-step, the more I hear, the more I get attached. later, lisa From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Mar 29 06:22:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29783 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Mar 1999 06:22:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 29775 invoked from network); 29 Mar 1999 06:22:46 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Mar 1999 06:22:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19990329061629.8506.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [128.197.9.134] by attach1; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 22:16:29 PST Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 22:16:29 -0800 (PST) From: rando Subject: (DARKSTEP) mysteries in my crate...... To: dnb@breakbeat.co.uk, darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok... got a few treats that I am into and want to know a few things. maybe one of you will have the answers *Saigon promo with AreaDenial/Phreakin/Dreamscape/Severed Who is the producer? Release Date? *DJ Mace, Inferno/Ram Jam, MNB7 What Label is this? Who is this guy and where is he from? Not a bad release. *Omega Man + JJ, Your Culture Will Adopt, Hole in the Floor Recs Is Omega Man a German head... I wanna say he has something on Precision? Has anyone else heard this, Well produced and kinda cool. Does this label have other releases, I know this was #1 for HITF. *White Label, Vibez 16, I have no info on this, techy, minimal and breaky I actually really like this record, not really for the dancefloor just a cool track..... Not like any other Vibez release I have ever heard. If you need to hear it, http://jungle.ffwd.com/advance and check my live set, it is in there at about the hour and one half mark. *Neutrik, Blind Date/Drops, Shake Up-Cologne... distributed by Groove Attack.. that is the extent of my knowlege.. pretty neat techy stuff what is the this label? who are the peeps involved? *Nico and Lars Vegas, Days Gone (DoppelgangerRMX), Groove Attack Release Date? ---------->all help appreciated highly :) == randy j shepherd aka rando <[bostonm a s s .| v e]> rando@earthalliance.com rand-e@rocketmail.com *checkout the ENDLESS webpage: (my emo/post-punk band) http://members.tripod.com/~endlesspage (under construction) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Mar 29 19:58:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25387 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Mar 1999 19:58:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 25365 invoked from network); 29 Mar 1999 19:58:10 -0000 Received: from dillinger.io.com (mkultra@199.170.88.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Mar 1999 19:58:10 -0000 Received: from localhost (mkultra@localhost) by dillinger.io.com (8.9.1/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA14363 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 13:57:15 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: dillinger.io.com: mkultra owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 13:57:05 -0600 (CST) From: MK ULTRA To: DarkStep Subject: (DARKSTEP) Lab Logic? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I know that Lab Logic isn't the darkest label but I want to know if anyone knows who these records are produced by. I have two different Lab Logic white labels. One has a Blue label and the other is Pink. I believe they are Lab Logic 2 and 4. If anyone has any info on these records I'd appreciate it. Thanks, MK ULTRA MK ULTRA -- Texas Hardcorps -- http://www.hardcorps.org/ Ultrasound Producer/DJ -- http://hardcorps.org/ultrasound/ Texas Raves ListOwner -- http://hyperreal.org/raves/texas/ Email -- mkultra@hardcorps.org - Voicemail -- 512-703-8901 From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 31 16:47:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26396 invoked by uid 6000); 31 Mar 1999 16:47:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 26382 invoked from network); 31 Mar 1999 16:47:22 -0000 Received: from pubnix.org (tara@209.3.192.40) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 Mar 1999 16:47:22 -0000 Received: from localhost (tara@localhost) by pubnix.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA15297; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 11:46:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 11:46:46 -0500 (EST) From: tara demarco To: krisg , benjamin palmer , darkstep@hyperreal.org, marc foster Subject: (DARKSTEP) scratching mp3 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk this was grabbed off of wired online ---------------------------- Until recently, nothing could replace the feel of a good old slab of vinyl and an analog turntable to synchronize tracks and produce the familiar scratching sound that comes from a DJ pushing a record forward and backward under a phonograph needle. A prototype product from the Netherlands aims to bring digital audio files to turntables, marrying vinyl and digital. Three guys in Amsterdam have developed a system that works with any turntable connected to a computer running the Be operating system. FinalScratch lets DJs and partythrowers map digital sound files, including MP3, to a special vinyl record, so they can mix and scratch them. The product will be available for sale within the next six months, developers say.