From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jul 02 15:23:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28162 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Jul 1999 15:23:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 27951 invoked from network); 2 Jul 1999 15:23:21 -0000 Received: from www.glx.net (HELO unixweb.glx.net) (dlux@206.151.154.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Jul 1999 15:23:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (dlux@localhost) by unixweb.glx.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA07881; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 09:17:16 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 09:17:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Barry Evans To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org, darkstep@hyperreal.org, nsmm@egroups.com Subject: (DARKSTEP) NSMM Message Board is Back Up Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk After 3 months of various bullshit, the Main, regular Not-so-massive massive message board is back open for "bitness". NSMM V2.0 website to follow in the following weeks. check it out at: http://not-so-massive.com/board/ Fucking do it. dlux From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Jul 03 18:53:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29405 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Jul 1999 18:53:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 29388 invoked from network); 3 Jul 1999 18:53:03 -0000 Received: from law2-f122.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.122) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Jul 1999 18:53:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 84543 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jul 1999 18:52:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990703185236.84542.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.42.78.205 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 03 Jul 1999 11:52:36 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.42.78.205] From: Jeff Packard To: dlux@unixweb.glx.net, mw-raves@hyperreal.org, darkstep@hyperreal.org, nsmm@egroups.com Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) NSMM Message Board is Back Up Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 18:52:36 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >From: Barry Evans >To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org, darkstep@hyperreal.org, nsmm@egroups.com >Subject: (DARKSTEP) NSMM Message Board is Back Up >Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 09:17:16 -0500 (CDT) > >After 3 months of various bullshit, the Main, regular Not-so-massive >massive message board is back open for "bitness". NSMM V2.0 website to >follow in the following weeks. > >check it out at: > >http://not-so-massive.com/board/ > >Fucking do it. > >dlux > > AWWWWW YEA!!! BAYBEE.......d&b forever.... -Jeff _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jul 06 20:30:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21321 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Jul 1999 20:30:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 21314 invoked from network); 6 Jul 1999 20:30:43 -0000 Received: from nss4.cc.lehigh.edu (@128.180.39.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Jul 1999 20:30:43 -0000 Received: from ns3-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU (ns3-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU [128.180.1.41]) by nss4.cc.lehigh.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA46116 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:30:34 -0400 Received: from localhost (atk3@localhost) by ns3-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA24184 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:30:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: ns3-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU: atk3 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:30:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Asterix To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) the darkstep party Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I ahd a thought. assuming we could all collectivly throw a party and book every DJ that we wanted and had the funds to do so... who would everyone want? i'd like to see optical ed rush decoder slant slak technical itch trace scooter matrix future forces andy c granted I doubt that party would ever happen Asterix Randy Kinney atk3@lehigh.edu http://www.lehigh.edu/~atk3/asterix.htm From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jul 06 21:23:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4145 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Jul 1999 21:23:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 4053 invoked from network); 6 Jul 1999 21:23:18 -0000 Received: from tempest.nac.net (HELO nac.net) (209.123.109.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Jul 1999 21:23:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 6216 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jul 1999 21:23:05 -0000 Received: from s5.dial1.ctn.nac.net (HELO default) (209.123.161.55) by tempest.nac.net with SMTP; 6 Jul 1999 21:23:05 -0000 Message-ID: <378274DA.4B98@nac.net> Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 17:27:55 -0400 From: ramos@nac.net Reply-To: ramos@nac.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) hello References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk what's up i just recently joined the list. actually i've been reading the archives for a while now but i finally got around to joining. i spin basically anything that's hard and dark- techstep, brokenbeat, hardcore, and even a little electro. if i could book anyone for a party it would be: ufo! dj abstrakt panacea current value bombadier (check out real audio of his tape at c8.com/tunes/tunes-music.html side a) christopher fringelli dj pure somatic responses hecate dj eye-d andy c matrix peace ako From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jul 06 23:45:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19909 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Jul 1999 23:45:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 19767 invoked from network); 6 Jul 1999 23:45:48 -0000 Received: from nss4.cc.lehigh.edu (@128.180.39.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Jul 1999 23:45:48 -0000 Received: from superdave (dial172.CC.Lehigh.EDU [128.180.100.172]) by nss4.cc.lehigh.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA37912; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 19:45:44 -0400 From: "Scooter" To: "Asterix" , Subject: RE: (DARKSTEP) the darkstep party Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 19:41:26 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2212 (4.71.2419.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk #-----Original Message----- #From: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org #[mailto:darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org]On Behalf Of Asterix #Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 4:30 PM #To: darkstep@hyperreal.org #Subject: (DARKSTEP) the darkstep party # # #I ahd a thought. assuming we could all collectivly throw a party and book #every DJ that we wanted and had the funds to do so... #who would everyone want? #i'd like to see #optical #ed rush #decoder #slant #slak #technical itch #trace #scooter yeah, but you could never afford me :) #matrix #future forces #andy c # #granted I doubt that party would ever happen # #Asterix #Randy Kinney #atk3@lehigh.edu #http://www.lehigh.edu/~atk3/asterix.htm # From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 07 00:02:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4768 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Jul 1999 00:02:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 4743 invoked from network); 7 Jul 1999 00:02:40 -0000 Received: from nss4.cc.lehigh.edu (@128.180.39.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Jul 1999 00:02:40 -0000 Received: from ns3-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU (ns3-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU [128.180.1.41]) by nss4.cc.lehigh.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA83508; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 20:02:37 -0400 Received: from localhost (atk3@localhost) by ns3-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA48390; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 20:02:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: ns3-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU: atk3 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 20:02:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Asterix To: Scooter cc: Asterix , darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (DARKSTEP) the darkstep party In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > #I ahd a thought. assuming we could all collectivly throw a party and book > #every DJ that we wanted and had the funds to do so... > #who would everyone want? > #i'd like to see > #optical > #ed rush > #decoder > #slant > #slak > #technical itch > #trace > #scooter > > yeah, but you could never afford me :) > I think your fee would be the records I keep buying... > #matrix > #future forces > #andy c > # > #granted I doubt that party would ever happen > # > #Asterix > #Randy Kinney > #atk3@lehigh.edu > #http://www.lehigh.edu/~atk3/asterix.htm > # > From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 07 00:56:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3451 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Jul 1999 00:56:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 3439 invoked from network); 7 Jul 1999 00:56:03 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Jul 1999 00:56:03 -0000 Received: from Encore808@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id vCVTa03295 (3875) for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 20:55:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Encore808@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 20:54:59 EDT Subject: (DARKSTEP) Technical Itch / Decoder : Atlanta : August 20 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Friday, August 20th, 1999 Atlanta, Georgia Encore Entertainment and The Playtheavy Kru present an exclusive drum and=20 bass event featuring: ***TECHNICAL ITCH & DECODER***=20 (Tech Itch Recordings / Moving Shadow) Bristol UK In the past few years Technical Itch and the Decoder have made a massive=20 impression on the Drum and Bass field both as a production team and as a=20 dynamic DJing duo. Tech Itch and Decoder have produced a multitude of tracks=20 on a diverse range of labels including Moving Shadow, Back 2 Basics, 2nd=20 Movement and Mo=92Wax. =20 The Technical Itch studio has recently been home to Peshay, who has asked=20 them to produce his latest album on Mo'wax. Production was recently=20 completed, with the first single - 'Miles From Home' selling out in the firs= t=20 week of release in early 1999. And they are now touring in support of their=20 latest album =91Subculture=92 released in June 1999. =20 They make for a unique and deadly fusion of sound, with the freshest tracks=20 from the Technical Itch studios being showcased at every event. An experienc= e=20 not for the faint-hearted!=20 ***KARL K*** (Philadelphia Hardstep Inc / DSCI4) Philadelphia , PA Karl began spinning in 1990 at the age of 12 , and has been rocking crowds=20 for over 8 years. He along with partner MC DUB2 they formed P.H.i=20 (Philadelphia Hardstep, Inc) and together with help from DJ Trace, used thei= r=20 status to promote the more sophisticated sounds of Drum and Bass in the U.S.=20 Karl K is currently working in the studio with fellow dj/producer and=20 longtime friend, Rob Paine, focusing his attention on releases due out by=20 Fall 1999. It won't be long until this dj's tracks are rocking crowds with=20 the best of the pioneers. Whatever the case may be, you can bet that his=20 unique style and passion for the music will make Karl K's name go down in th= e=20 history books of Drum and Bass.=20 ***DUDA*** (Playtheavy Kru / Phungus) Athens, GA ***LIL' JEN*** (20hz Cartel / Rewind Records) Atlanta, GA ***HAZEUS*** (Rydim Ryderz / Satellite / Liquid Groove) Atlanta, GA ***D:RC*** (Playtheavy Kru / Phungus Recordings) Athens, GA Price: $12 Before Midnight $14 After Location: Venue TBA Atlanta, Georgia Info: 404.303.0839 Encore808@aol.com DRC372@aol.com **more information coming soon!!! Look for pre flyers out this weekend! From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 07 01:58:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10326 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Jul 1999 01:58:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 10208 invoked from network); 7 Jul 1999 01:57:32 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Jul 1999 01:57:32 -0000 Received: from Husqvarnic@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id vSBNa00103 (4265) for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 21:56:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Husqvarnic@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 21:56:22 EDT Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) the darkstep party To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 7/6/99 4:30:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, atk3@Lehigh.EDU writes: > i'd like to see > scooter scooter? yikes... man i remember them when i lived in norway back in 95... they blasted their happy hardcore shit all over mtv... a german happyhardcore live pa at a darkstep party sounds odd to me... From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 07 02:00:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11481 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Jul 1999 02:00:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 11383 invoked from network); 7 Jul 1999 02:00:16 -0000 Received: from nss4.cc.lehigh.edu (@128.180.39.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Jul 1999 02:00:16 -0000 Received: from ns3-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU (ns3-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU [128.180.1.41]) by nss4.cc.lehigh.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA56870; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 22:00:14 -0400 Received: from localhost (atk3@localhost) by ns3-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA15126; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 22:00:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: ns3-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU: atk3 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 22:00:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Asterix To: Encore808@aol.com cc: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Technical Itch / Decoder : Atlanta : August 20 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk just outta curiosity, how can you call your featuring of technical itch and decoder exclusive? they are playing all over the US in the next two months... Asterix Randy Kinney atk3@lehigh.edu http://www.lehigh.edu/~atk3/asterix.htm On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 Encore808@aol.com wrote: > Friday, August 20th, 1999 > Atlanta, Georgia >=20 > Encore Entertainment and The Playtheavy Kru present an exclusive drum and= =20 > bass event featuring: >=20 > ***TECHNICAL ITCH & DECODER***=20 > (Tech Itch Recordings / Moving Shadow) Bristol UK > In the past few years Technical Itch and the Decoder have made a massive= =20 > impression on the Drum and Bass field both as a production team and as a= =20 > dynamic DJing duo. Tech Itch and Decoder have produced a multitude of tra= cks=20 > on a diverse range of labels including Moving Shadow, Back 2 Basics, 2nd= =20 > Movement and Mo=92Wax. > =20 > The Technical Itch studio has recently been home to Peshay, who has asked= =20 > them to produce his latest album on Mo'wax. Production was recently=20 > completed, with the first single - 'Miles From Home' selling out in the f= irst=20 > week of release in early 1999. And they are now touring in support of the= ir=20 > latest album =91Subculture=92 released in June 1999. > =20 > They make for a unique and deadly fusion of sound, with the freshest trac= ks=20 > from the Technical Itch studios being showcased at every event. An experi= ence=20 > not for the faint-hearted!=20 >=20 > ***KARL K*** > (Philadelphia Hardstep Inc / DSCI4) Philadelphia , PA > Karl began spinning in 1990 at the age of 12 , and has been rocking crowd= s=20 > for over 8 years. He along with partner MC DUB2 they formed P.H.i=20 > (Philadelphia Hardstep, Inc) and together with help from DJ Trace, used t= heir=20 > status to promote the more sophisticated sounds of Drum and Bass in the U= =2ES.=20 > Karl K is currently working in the studio with fellow dj/producer and=20 > longtime friend, Rob Paine, focusing his attention on releases due out by= =20 > Fall 1999. It won't be long until this dj's tracks are rocking crowds wi= th=20 > the best of the pioneers. Whatever the case may be, you can bet that his= =20 > unique style and passion for the music will make Karl K's name go down in= the=20 > history books of Drum and Bass.=20 >=20 > ***DUDA*** > (Playtheavy Kru / Phungus) Athens, GA >=20 > ***LIL' JEN*** > (20hz Cartel / Rewind Records) Atlanta, GA >=20 > ***HAZEUS*** > (Rydim Ryderz / Satellite / Liquid Groove) Atlanta, GA >=20 > ***D:RC*** > (Playtheavy Kru / Phungus Recordings) Athens, GA >=20 > Price: > $12 Before Midnight > $14 After >=20 > Location: > Venue TBA > Atlanta, Georgia >=20 > Info: > 404.303.0839 > Encore808@aol.com > DRC372@aol.com >=20 > **more information coming soon!!! Look for pre flyers out this weekend! >=20 From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 07 04:50:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3441 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Jul 1999 04:50:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 3432 invoked from network); 7 Jul 1999 04:50:01 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Jul 1999 04:50:01 -0000 Received: from Encore808@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id 5LTYa00791 (7986); Wed, 7 Jul 1999 00:48:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Encore808@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 00:48:25 EDT Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Technical Itch / Decoder : Atlanta : August 20 To: atk3@lehigh.edu CC: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Exclusive meaning that the event in itself is an ALL dnb event (b/c they are rare in this area). Not that tech itch and decoder are exclusive.. Make sense ?? =) Christy ENCORE - Atlanta From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 07 05:15:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15315 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Jul 1999 05:15:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 15205 invoked from network); 7 Jul 1999 05:15:16 -0000 Received: from f294.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.185) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Jul 1999 05:15:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 38254 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jul 1999 05:14:49 -0000 Message-ID: <19990707051449.38253.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.212.184.91 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 06 Jul 1999 22:14:48 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.212.184.91] From: Johann Strauss To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) fantasy land Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 22:14:48 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, let's see, since this is a fantasy, I would have 2 say: Dillinja Skynet Stakka Procedure 769 Arcon 2 Fortran (for a live p.a. that would be absolutely unbelievable) Source Direct (live...can you say "fuck, yeah!!"???) Photek (live...ditto above statement) Dom Angus Makai (live) Trace Ed Rush & Optical (for a live p.a. as well, seeing as they'd already be there with some of their gear) Matrix Decoder/Tech Itch (live, of course) Mickey Finn Future Forces U.f.o. Panacea John B SS Grooverider & Fabio (three-table-tag, anyone??) Aphex Twin (live) Squarepusher (live) Boymerang (live, although he probably would refuse to do it) U-ziq J Majik Rotator Alec Empire (doing that cool, dark breakbeat shite he does) Kemistry & Storm - r.i.p. Kemi, we'll miss you :( I could definetely go on... _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 07 05:38:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27973 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Jul 1999 05:38:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 27954 invoked from network); 7 Jul 1999 05:38:04 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Jul 1999 05:38:04 -0000 Received: from Shirei3000@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id vPGKa00103 (3925) for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 01:37:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Shirei3000@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 01:37:10 EDT Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) hello To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 7/6/99 9:23:39 PM, ramos@nac.net writes: <> this band or person, ive heard more about in the past month from the idm list, and now darkstep... obv. im not hearing something i should. From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 07 05:47:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2561 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Jul 1999 05:47:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 2553 invoked from network); 7 Jul 1999 05:47:41 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Jul 1999 05:47:41 -0000 Received: from PoLoJngLsT@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id vNQMa16595 (2617); Wed, 7 Jul 1999 01:46:54 -0400 (EDT) From: PoLoJngLsT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 01:46:53 EDT Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) hello To: Shirei3000@aol.com, darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 7/7/99 5:38:17 AM !!!First Boot!!!, Shirei3000@aol.com writes: << <> this band or person, ive heard more about in the past month from the idm list, and now darkstep... obv. im not hearing something i should. >> yea, mate, you need to mos def check his shit out and all the other position chrome shit out there.......bobby From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 07 05:48:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2804 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Jul 1999 05:48:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 2797 invoked from network); 7 Jul 1999 05:48:34 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Jul 1999 05:48:34 -0000 Received: from Husqvarnic@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id vBFAa19491 (14417) for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 01:47:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Husqvarnic@aol.com Message-ID: <4f9acc3f.24b443d8@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 01:47:04 EDT Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) hello To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 7/7/99 1:38:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Shirei3000@aol.com writes: > this band or person, ive heard more about in the past month from the idm > list, and now darkstep... > obv. im not hearing something i should. he is a tubby german dood with a funky lip piercing... he is on position chrome and riot beats and i think mille plateau as well... plus some others i can't think of... he is kinda the first real big name producer from outside of the UK... personally, i think when the germans got a hold of dnb they decided to make it not suck anymore... and they really gave it a creative shot in the arm... and you can hear this echo thru england now too... right now the talk in the UK seems to be Bad Company and they sound similar to Panacea in my opinion... it just gives you hope that the UK will realize they aren't the only spot where good dnb can come out off... it is causing a nice merging of cultures with the music... i am just waiting for some chicago guys to mix booty house in there... From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 07 13:27:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 810 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Jul 1999 13:27:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 800 invoked from network); 7 Jul 1999 13:27:40 -0000 Received: from nss4.cc.lehigh.edu (@128.180.39.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Jul 1999 13:27:40 -0000 Received: from ns4-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU (ns4-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU [128.180.1.42]) by nss4.cc.lehigh.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA74124; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 09:27:32 -0400 Received: from localhost (atk3@localhost) by ns4-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27944; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 09:27:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: ns4-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU: atk3 owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 09:27:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Asterix To: Husqvarnic@aol.com cc: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) the darkstep party In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > i'd like to see > > scooter > > scooter? yikes... man i remember them when i lived in norway back in 95... > they blasted their happy hardcore shit all over mtv... > > a german happyhardcore live pa at a darkstep party sounds odd to me... > Well, I guess there is more than one scooter. The scooter I was referring to lives in PA, not germent. and he spins techstep, not HH From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jul 08 02:51:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7034 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Jul 1999 02:51:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 7017 invoked from network); 8 Jul 1999 02:51:55 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Jul 1999 02:51:55 -0000 Received: from Husqvarnic@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id vHYMa13191 (4240) for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 22:50:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Husqvarnic@aol.com Message-ID: <84ca0c75.24b56be9@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 22:50:17 EDT Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) the darkstep party To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 7/7/99 9:27:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, atk3@lehigh.edu writes: > Well, I guess there is more than one scooter. The scooter I was referring > to lives in PA, not germent. and he spins techstep, not HH oh... weird... well... i dunno if i would call myself scooter...big commercial mtv happy hardcore trio... really awful cds and stupid video's... and mtv and all the radio's blasted it everywhere... ugh From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jul 08 17:26:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12232 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Jul 1999 17:26:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 11853 invoked from network); 8 Jul 1999 17:25:50 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Jul 1999 17:25:50 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA05696 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:38:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:38:01 -0400 (EDT) From: S K I N N E R To: DarkStep Mailing List Subject: (DARKSTEP) DAT? Yay or nay? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok here is the thing. Certain styles of music when done with "DAT" are really hard to do live unless the person is just sitting there hitting a bleep here and there to the beat (real hard). However some styles that have a very simple melody vs. a more complex sequential notes can be played live. So what's the problem you ask with this? Well as far as your concerned there shouldn't be. Its up to you what you want to pay for and are willing to accept. I myself think its a waste of time... Why I favor people more who do Multi-Track vs. DAT? During their performance the artist can in real time change the arrangement of the song, cut and pull out parts. One common trick used is to EQ the hell out of different sounds; use tricks like the old faithful midrange sweep. This not only adds to the more "live" feel, but the artist can then interact with the audience and change things to feed off what they are reacting to the most. Multi-Track or just all out sequenced gear is ran though a mixing board where each sound. in most cases, is on its own channel.This Enables the EQ tricks, Sweep Tricks and also enabling the artist to cut a sound out/in if he/she wants to. Or even effects to each sound if they want too and change them in real time during the performance. DAT however is all prerecorded. DAT is not Multi-Track, therefore, you make a change to the song it effects to whole song not just one part. You cant cut parts out of it because its all recorded already as one song to one data track. So what's on the tape is what you get. The artist can then play a part over the song if this sed part is simple and or a flowing melody. So really playing one melody to me is far from being live. Esp when half the time were just hearing the same damn songs over and over again. At least make some remix's. Or even better new songs unreleased what a concept :) So once again its all down to this If your willing to, as a consumer pay for a DAT go a head. But at least be picky to hear songs not already on 12" that any D.J. can play too. Or songs that a week ago the live performance artist played. Good music is Good Music doesn't matter what its made on or how its played, that fact that its good wont change. But the issue is what do you relate to as a "Live Performance". Are you all willing to except people pushing play on a DAT? Are you all willing to allow just some simple note over a DAT? Or do you think the extra work and the ability in real-time to manipulate the song isn't that much of a big deal to you and you will except a DAT performance? As a producer myself who has over the last 10 years slow migrating away from a live performance setup and more into a Higher end Digital home studio, to me to play a DAT would be easy for my music to be hear, but know what? It is no fun. Id rather be able to manipulate my tracks in real-time to give it more flow and expression of what is going on. [ well in my case add more chaos to clear dance floors ;) ]. This the emergence of more and more PC based technology and the fact that most producers are solo music makers the live Performance issue comes up, do we completely re-evaluate what we consider a live performance? We condemn rock artists for pre-recorded material but we are more accepting of techno artist who do the same. I might make fun of DAT users as you have seen here I don't support it much, but I still will enjoy a "DAT" performance from an artist who either way put a large effort into the music they made and have created a wonderful expression of themselves though the sound. I plead one more though. If you are going to do a DAT or as a "raver" accept a DAT performance at least be original each time with some new and unique work that you have produced. I myself write new songs when I do a performance for the above reasons and also for the fact that I am sick of my old work I want to hear some new stuff and it gives me something fun to play with too. Peace, War, and Hardcore -- ******************************************************************** Robert Skinner skinner{at}skinner[dot]org Black Monolith Records Gabber List Administrator Things To Come Records Darkstep List Administrator -------------------------------------------------------------------- Skinner's Personal Ego http://www.skinner.org Black Monolith Records http://www.blackmonolith.com Things To Come Records http://www.thingstocome.com ******************************************************************** From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jul 08 18:09:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5723 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Jul 1999 18:06:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 4811 invoked from network); 8 Jul 1999 18:04:09 -0000 Received: from gate.ea.com (HELO ea.com) (159.153.89.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Jul 1999 18:04:08 -0000 Received: from iloyd (4-21-35-86.ea.com [4.21.35.86] (may be forged)) by ea.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA22810 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 10:58:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990708105600.009a8d30@shell13.ba.best.com> X-Sender: poop@shell13.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 10:56:00 -0700 To: From: i a n l o y d Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) DAT: nay. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk playback from DAT isnt really performing. and DJ-ing with vinyl is only a few steps from that. While a normal dj can manipulate the records (or DAT) and mixer, the tracks remain the same. to me Live PA means just that...LIVE. playback from ADAT isnt really performing either, IMO. Once i saw Sheep on drugs (as his drum n bass moniker which i've forgotten) do this ADAT 'Live PA' thing...not very entertaining since he just stood there barely touching anything. may as well have been playing from his cd. on the other hand i've witnessed a LIVE PA's of kids who bring their keyboards, drum machines, etc t0 a gig and just playback the sequences while tweaking and 'performing' certain parts of the tracks. and if there's live vocals it feels even more like a LIVE PA. i guess if the tracks can be altered in real time then yeah it could be considered 'live'. playback from dat is as 'live' as playback from vinyl; and even then you have less control. but then there's the whole dj as artist argument for the turntablists. making new songs from pieces of others all done on the dex. MEAT MEAT MEAT From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jul 08 20:14:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27425 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Jul 1999 20:14:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 24441 invoked from network); 8 Jul 1999 20:05:16 -0000 Received: from cheddar.direct.ca (199.60.229.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Jul 1999 20:05:16 -0000 Received: from mut-53-0332.direct.ca ([216.66.133.32] helo=direct.ca) by cheddar.direct.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #25) id 112KNd-0006Xx-00; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:02:50 -0700 Message-ID: <37850508.32710ED0@direct.ca> Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 13:07:36 -0700 From: optic mystic Organization: Mediacore X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: i a n l o y d CC: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) DAT: nay. References: <3.0.3.32.19990708105600.009a8d30@shell13.ba.best.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i a n l o y d wrote: > playback from DAT isnt really performing. > and DJ-ing with vinyl is only a few steps from that. > While a normal dj can manipulate the records (or DAT) and mixer, the tracks > remain the same. to me Live PA means just that...LIVE. playback from ADAT > isnt really performing either, IMO. > > Once i saw Sheep on drugs (as his drum n bass moniker which i've forgotten) > do this ADAT 'Live PA' thing...not very entertaining since he just stood > there barely touching anything. may as well have been playing from his cd. > > on the other hand i've witnessed a LIVE PA's of kids who bring their > keyboards, drum machines, etc t0 a gig and just playback the sequences > while tweaking and 'performing' certain parts of the tracks. and if there's > live vocals it feels even more like a LIVE PA. i guess if the tracks can be > altered in real time then yeah it could be considered 'live'. > > playback from dat is as 'live' as playback from vinyl; and even then you > have less control. but then there's the whole dj as artist argument for the > turntablists. making new songs from pieces of others all done on the dex. > > MEAT MEAT MEAT dude..you forgot the url: http://www.angelfire.com/wi/mmmMEAT/ oh ya...I'm playing some abrasive/non-DJ store/whatever dnb,etc. tomorrow at "Hoe Down" near Vancouver -- colin http://djclone.cjb.net july 9 http://mediacore.cjb.net aug 3 & 5 From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jul 08 21:43:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15580 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Jul 1999 21:43:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 15386 invoked from network); 8 Jul 1999 21:43:35 -0000 Received: from deliverator.io.com (root@199.170.88.17) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Jul 1999 21:43:35 -0000 Received: from fnord.io.com (IDENT:mkultra@fnord.io.com [199.170.88.12]) by deliverator.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00180 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:43:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (mkultra@localhost) by fnord.io.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA20510 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:43:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: fnord.io.com: mkultra owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:43:24 -0500 (CDT) From: MK ULTRA To: DarkStep Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) DAT: nay. In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990708105600.009a8d30@shell13.ba.best.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, i a n l o y d wrote: > playback from DAT isnt really performing. > and DJ-ing with vinyl is only a few steps from that. > While a normal dj can manipulate the records (or DAT) and mixer, the tracks > remain the same. to me Live PA means just that...LIVE. playback from ADAT > isnt really performing either, IMO. I have to disagree with the bit about vinyl only being a few steps about playing a DAT. The tracks remain the same only if the dj chooses not to do anything with his/her records. A lot of dj's choose not to do that much with their records but I think DJ Zakaos from Houston summed it up best with , "i'll take two old records and play them like you've never heard them before." Zakaos is famous for his crossfader work. Very Sick. Just hope that you are playing before him at a party if you like to use the crossfader :P billb/mk ultra MK ULTRA -- Texas Hardcorps -- http://www.hardcorps.org/ Ultrasound Producer/DJ -- http://hardcorps.org/ultrasound/ Texas Raves ListOwner -- http://hyperreal.org/raves/texas/ Email -- mkultra@hardcorps.org - Voicemail -- 512-703-8901 From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jul 08 22:53:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13557 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Jul 1999 22:53:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 13548 invoked from network); 8 Jul 1999 22:53:30 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Jul 1999 22:53:30 -0000 Message-ID: <19990708223459.27952.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [4.17.135.26] by web1; Thu, 08 Jul 1999 15:34:59 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 15:34:59 -0700 (PDT) From: rando Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) DAT: nay. (deefence of the deejay) To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ***************************** DAT isnt really performing. > > and DJ-ing with vinyl is only a few steps from that. > > While a normal dj can manipulate the records (or DAT) and mixer, the tracks > > remain the same. to me Live PA means just that...LIVE. playback from ADAT > > isnt really performing either, IMO. ***************************** *ALERT* this email is not intended to start any kind of flame war Skinner man, please don't flame me, but, you cannot be that great of a DJ if you think that djing is a step away from playing a DAT. The best DJ's I have ever seen, and I am not talking just about DrumNBass, create an environment that is distinctly their own, a creation that is signurature. The records in fact, do not "remain the same". I am currently working on my three-turntable skills, and one of the things I enjoy best the most about the successful mixes is that the tracks become unrecognizable. Technical EQ manipulation, battling basslines and alternating flashes on the second and third tables are just a few of the techniques that I feel really separate my sound from most other dj's....... (blah blah blah, who gives a shit, right? 8p) In DnB, it seems that often the consensus within the producer+dj community is that djing is not an art not worthy of concentration. Why? It is alot of fun, why not be good at it and create within that medium also. I guess my opion could theoretically change as I get closer and closer to a complete studio and I have the ability to control all the equiptment in an freely expressive manner, but I cannot imagine getting up in front of a bunch of people and just SUCKING, like so many DnB producers do. If I am wrong, feel free to tell me why, and if this e-mail sounds like it has attitude, it is completeley unintended........ I just know what it feels like to stand up in front of people and perform within a creative medium, I specifically refer to 9 years of playing in rock bands, and djing gives me the same high. peace, rando ps if you haven't already, check out the biometrics track that Ian/poop posted about----- it is a choon, ask him about the URL if you don't have that e-mail saved. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jul 08 22:59:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17967 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Jul 1999 22:59:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 17934 invoked from network); 8 Jul 1999 22:59:01 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Jul 1999 22:59:01 -0000 Received: from RyanEReid@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id lLULa28546 (8046); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 18:57:51 -0400 (EDT) From: RyanEReid@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 18:57:51 EDT Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) DAT: nay. (deefence of the deejay) To: rand-e@rocketmail.com, darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 7/8/99 6:53:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rand-e@rocketmail.com writes: << In DnB, it seems that often the consensus within the producer+dj community is that djing is not an art not worthy of concentration. Why? It is alot of fun, why not be good at it and create within that medium also >> I think this is mainly due to the endless number of jungle DJ's in Tommy Hilfiger gear who setup their tables hip-hop style (sideways), and don't even bother to match beats. Most of the jungle DJ's I've seen have just mixed ambient-outro with ambient into, one after the other. Yes, I know there's many who CAN mix, but jungle's higher speeds and syncopation give many people an excuse to go out there with 0 skills. late ryan From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jul 08 23:59:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14201 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Jul 1999 23:59:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 14188 invoked from network); 8 Jul 1999 23:59:18 -0000 Received: from gate.ea.com (HELO ea.com) (159.153.89.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Jul 1999 23:59:18 -0000 Received: from iloyd (4-21-35-86.ea.com [4.21.35.86] (may be forged)) by ea.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA15131 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990708165103.009ab140@shell13.ba.best.com> X-Sender: poop@shell13.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 16:51:03 -0700 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org From: i a n l o y d Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) DAT: nay. (deefence of the deejay) In-Reply-To: <19990708223459.27952.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk BTW don't forget, I did mention: "but then there's the whole dj as artist argument for the turntablists. making new songs from pieces of others all done on the dex." so i know the score for DJ's who manipulate the dex/mixer more so than most. I've seen some who do and have respect for those that pull it off. From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jul 09 00:27:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26104 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Jul 1999 00:27:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 26055 invoked from network); 9 Jul 1999 00:27:17 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Jul 1999 00:27:17 -0000 Received: from Encore808@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id 5NVJa05091 (4535); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 20:26:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Encore808@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 20:26:03 EDT Subject: (DARKSTEP) Moving Shadow / Breakbeat Science Tour - Atlanta To: seraves@american.edu, atlraves@onelist.com, darkstep@hyperreal.org, dnb@breakbeat.co.uk (list DNB) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wednesday, July 28, 1999 Atlanta, Georgia Slight of Hand Productions presents=85 The Moving Shadow / Breakbeat Science Tour with: **ROB PLAYFORD** (3:30-4:30) London UK Not only the founder of Moving Shadow Records, he is a drum and bass legend=20 having produced some of the best known records of all time. He has traveled=20 the world extensively as part of the Moving Shadow All Points DJ Tour, but=20 this is his first US tour in almost 2 years. Rob also mixed Moving Shadow= =92s=20 98.1 and 98.2 CD that have sold over 100,000 copied worldwide. Need we say=20 more?? **DOM & ROLAND** (2:30-3:30) London UK Dom released one of the most acclaimed drum and bass albums of 1998 with=20 "Industry" on Moving Shadow. His prolific production and remixing talents=20 make him one of the most in demand players in the scene. His DJing skills=20 have found him playing to audiences worldwide but this will be his first US=20 Tour.=20 **DARA** (1:30-2:30) New York City NY He is one of the founders of Breakbeat Science and of USA=92s top drum and b= ass=20 DJs. This tour will coincide with the release of his second album for Sm:)e=20 Communications, his second Renegade Continuum mixed CD fro Rawkus, and his=20 debut single on Breakbeat Science Recordings. If you missed him on June 3rd=20 you won=92t want to miss him this time around.=20 **HAZEUS** (12:30-1:30) Atlanta GA (Rydim Ryderz / Satellite Records / Liquid Groove)=20 **WEDNESDAY** (11:30-12:30) Atlanta GA (W.A.R. Recordings)=20 **SINCEELAY** (10:45-11:30) Atlanta GA (MJQ / Team Rollers) **ISIS** (10:00- 10:45) Atlanta GA (Rydim Ryderz) Location: The Warehouse 339 Marietta Street Atlanta GA Info: 404.303.0839 10pm-4am $18 presale $20 at door Pre-sales available @ WISH Little 5 Points 404.880.0402 WISH Gwinnett Place Mall 770.814.0940 SATELLITE RECORDS 404.880.9746 Directions: >From NORTH: I-85 / I-75 South to Downtown. Exit #100 (North Avenue). Turn Right, go to=20 second light (Luckie Street), Turn Left. Back of venue is down one mile, 3rd=20 to last building on right.=20 >From SOUTH: I-85 / I-75 North to Downtown. Exit #101 (10th/14th Street). Turn Right @=20 light, immediate right onto Spring Street. Go to fourth light right onto=20 North Avenue, 3rd Light turn left onto Luckie Street. Back of venue is down=20 one mile, 3rd to last building on right. www.mapsonus.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jul 09 02:55:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3240 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Jul 1999 02:55:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 3231 invoked from network); 9 Jul 1999 02:55:49 -0000 Received: from tempest.nac.net (HELO nac.net) (209.123.109.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Jul 1999 02:55:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 22576 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jul 1999 02:55:46 -0000 Received: from s10.dial1.ctn.nac.net (HELO default) (209.123.161.60) by tempest.nac.net with SMTP; 9 Jul 1999 02:55:46 -0000 Message-ID: <378565F3.1DF6@nac.net> Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 23:01:07 -0400 From: ako Reply-To: ramos@nac.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) DAT vs DJ vs "live" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i've got to agree with skinner that dropping DAT's and calling it a live performance is ridiculous. and if you d.j. and you just drop records with out doing anything interesting or adding your own input, then you are the same as someone dropping DAT's. however, the problem with darkstep and most other kinds of electronic music is that it is almost impossible to play live in the true sense of the word. you would have to have one person playing the bassline, a couple people working on the drums, and even more people doing all the other atmospheric type sounds. and they would all have to be perfectly synchronized. thats why we have the dj as an easy quick way to go out and hear drum 'n bass "live" but there are other things you can do. about two years ago i saw ed rush, trace, and nico play at a party in philly and trace was spinning on two tables while ed and nico were actually playing stuff on synths. while trace was dropping a couple records ed and nico would set up a track and then mix it in and they were going back an forth. it was sick. anyway peace ako From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jul 09 04:25:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5964 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Jul 1999 04:25:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 5518 invoked from network); 9 Jul 1999 04:24:07 -0000 Received: from cheddar.direct.ca (199.60.229.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Jul 1999 04:24:07 -0000 Received: from mut-53-0256.direct.ca ([216.66.132.152] helo=direct.ca) by cheddar.direct.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #25) id 112SAJ-0007Hd-00 for darkstep@hyperreal.org; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:21:35 -0700 Message-ID: <37857A01.4F95342F@direct.ca> Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 21:26:41 -0700 From: optic mystic Organization: Mediacore X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep list Subject: Re: [Fwd: (DARKSTEP) hello] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Punk Floyd wrote: > > > > it just gives you hope that the UK will realize they aren't the only spot > > > where good dnb can come out off... it is causing a nice merging of cultures > > > with the music... > > > > > > i am just waiting for some chicago guys to mix booty house in there... > Already done =) I have at least 4 or 5 records of that. > Check out DJ Disco D's Where Booty Is At? remixed by Danny The Wildchild and > Phantom 45. It's a quite dark dnb remix of a (you've guessed it :) booty house > track. > > Oleg > > === > "We are going to destroy our nuclear arsenals together with America." > > Boris Yeltsin, the President of Russia -- colin http://djclone.cjb.net july 9 http://mediacore.cjb.net aug 3 & 5 From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jul 09 04:28:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6988 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Jul 1999 04:28:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 6874 invoked from network); 9 Jul 1999 04:28:01 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Jul 1999 04:28:01 -0000 Received: from Husqvarnic@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id vYIVa23618 (7991) for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 00:27:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Husqvarnic@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 00:27:06 EDT Subject: Re: [Fwd: (DARKSTEP) hello] To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 7/9/99 12:25:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, om@direct.ca writes: > > Already done =) I have at least 4 or 5 records of that. > > Check out DJ Disco D's Where Booty Is At? remixed by Danny The Wildchild > and > > Phantom 45. It's a quite dark dnb remix of a (you've guessed it :) booty > house > > track. damn, and i thought i was original with my booty ambient tracks... damn... another dream shattered... why don't you see any gothic chicks with ghetto booty? From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jul 09 05:10:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23078 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Jul 1999 05:10:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 23068 invoked from network); 9 Jul 1999 05:10:45 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Jul 1999 05:10:45 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA00623; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:22:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:22:45 -0400 (EDT) From: S K I N N E R To: rando cc: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) DAT: nay. (deefence of the deejay) In-Reply-To: <19990708223459.27952.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, rando wrote: }:> Skinner man, please don't flame me, but, you cannot be that great of a }:> DJ if you think that djing is a step away from playing a DAT. }:> }:> The best DJ's I have ever seen, and I am not talking just about }:> DrumNBass, create an environment that is distinctly their own, a }:> creation that is signurature. Dude learn to read your email. I said no such thing about being a step away that was IAN responding to my post not me stating that -- ******************************************************************** Robert Skinner skinner{at}skinner[dot]org Black Monolith Records Gabber List Administrator Things To Come Records Darkstep List Administrator -------------------------------------------------------------------- Skinner's Personal Ego http://www.skinner.org Black Monolith Records http://www.blackmonolith.com Things To Come Records http://www.thingstocome.com ******************************************************************** From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jul 09 15:17:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15716 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Jul 1999 15:17:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 15301 invoked from network); 9 Jul 1999 15:17:00 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Jul 1999 15:17:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990709151559.27649.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [192.251.173.34] by web4; Fri, 09 Jul 1999 08:15:59 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 08:15:59 -0700 (PDT) From: rando Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) DAT: nay. (deefence of the deejay) To: S K I N N E R Cc: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk sorry... dude. I am currently in 14 hour a day C++ classes, you will have to forgive me if I am not as sharp as usual ---S K I N N E R wrote: > > On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, rando wrote: > > }:> Skinner man, please don't flame me, but, you cannot be that great of a > }:> DJ if you think that djing is a step away from playing a DAT. > }:> > }:> The best DJ's I have ever seen, and I am not talking just about > }:> DrumNBass, create an environment that is distinctly their own, a > }:> creation that is signurature. > > Dude learn to read your email. I said no such thing about > being a step away that was IAN responding to my post not me > stating that > > -- > ******************************************************************** > Robert Skinner skinner{at}skinner[dot]org > Black Monolith Records Gabber List Administrator > Things To Come Records Darkstep List Administrator > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Skinner's Personal Ego http://www.skinner.org > Black Monolith Records http://www.blackmonolith.com > Things To Come Records http://www.thingstocome.com > ******************************************************************** > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jul 09 16:27:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29274 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Jul 1999 16:27:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 29265 invoked from network); 9 Jul 1999 16:27:36 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Jul 1999 16:27:36 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA05264; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 12:39:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 12:39:39 -0400 (EDT) From: S K I N N E R To: rando cc: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) DAT: nay. (deefence of the deejay) In-Reply-To: <19990709151559.27649.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, rando wrote: }:> sorry... dude. I am currently in 14 hour a day C++ classes, you will }:> have to forgive me if I am not as sharp as usual }:> Tis ok your forgiven, now go stand in the corner ;-p ******************************************************************** Robert Skinner skinner{at}skinner[dot]org Black Monolith Records Gabber List Administrator Things To Come Records Darkstep List Administrator -------------------------------------------------------------------- Skinner's Personal Ego http://www.skinner.org Black Monolith Records http://www.blackmonolith.com Things To Come Records http://www.thingstocome.com ******************************************************************** From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jul 09 19:15:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3675 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Jul 1999 19:15:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 3665 invoked from network); 9 Jul 1999 19:15:02 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Jul 1999 19:15:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990709190752.19162.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [192.251.173.34] by attach1; Fri, 09 Jul 1999 12:07:52 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 12:07:52 -0700 (PDT) From: rando Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) DAT: nay. (deefence of the deejay) To: S K I N N E R Cc: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ahh, polymorphism ... abstract data types uhhh, advanced file i/o can't take much more, (mind you, 5 days ago I only knew elementary C) passing out.... ---S K I N N E R wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, rando wrote: > > }:> sorry... dude. I am currently in 14 hour a day C++ classes, you will > }:> have to forgive me if I am not as sharp as usual > }:> > > Tis ok your forgiven, now go stand in the corner ;-p > > ******************************************************************** > Robert Skinner skinner{at}skinner[dot]org > Black Monolith Records Gabber List Administrator > Things To Come Records Darkstep List Administrator > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Skinner's Personal Ego http://www.skinner.org > Black Monolith Records http://www.blackmonolith.com > Things To Come Records http://www.thingstocome.com > ******************************************************************** > > == randy j shepherd - rando <[boston m a s s .| v e]> EGO SITES-------------------------------------------------- http://jungle.ffwd.com/advance (live set) http://www.transcasts.com (live set) http://members.tripod.com/~endlesspage (band) http://www.skinny.com/music/gallery/drumbass/elements (pic) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Jul 10 19:25:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17738 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Jul 1999 19:25:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 17731 invoked from network); 10 Jul 1999 19:25:48 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Jul 1999 19:25:48 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA19126 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:37:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:37:45 -0400 (EDT) From: S K I N N E R To: DarkStep Mailing List Subject: (DARKSTEP) darkstep list Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Those of you who would like thier webpages on the darkstep list website please EMAIL skinner909@home.com with the following url: Site type: DJ, Producer or Personal or other(explain) Also everyone please vote on what labels should be linked from the site: I have my personal likes, Id like to hear from the rest of you what "dark" labels should be linked. p.s. dont just reply to this email, send it to the above addy or ill just delete it k :) -- ******************************************************************** Robert Skinner skinner{at}skinner[dot]org Black Monolith Records Gabber List Administrator Things To Come Records Darkstep List Administrator -------------------------------------------------------------------- Skinner's Personal Ego http://www.skinner.org Black Monolith Records http://www.blackmonolith.com Things To Come Records http://www.thingstocome.com ******************************************************************** From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Jul 10 19:34:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20250 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Jul 1999 19:34:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 20242 invoked from network); 10 Jul 1999 19:34:55 -0000 Received: from jovita.jovita.net (@209.150.128.146) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Jul 1999 19:34:55 -0000 Received: from blurreddot.com (d212-151-251-84.swipnet.se [212.151.251.84]) by jovita.jovita.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00124 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:33:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3787A089.5C1E0ECA@blurreddot.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 21:35:37 +0200 From: pat craze X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello Crew... I'm about to build a huge site for a company called Power FX. The main focus on the site will be to sell it's products which are sample cd's with loops and sound FX. Products released so far is the Club Sphere serie which is for dj sets with long rhythm loops for live sets. They have also released sample cd's from John "Jabo" Starks (drummer behind James Brown) who together with other musicians lay down those fat funky sounds. Another release is with three Motown drummers who togehter have played on more than 350 hitrecords. Upcoming releases are coming from Bootsy Collins with a lil bit of P-Funk, one release with Brittish 60's Pop to mention some. There will also be a subdivision about Reactive Music which is a new recordlabel for house, techno, hip hop and jungle. The third section will be a complete DJ community and that's where you come in. The DJ Source (http://blurreddot.com/dj-source/) will be in this new place and the main idea is that this will be the number one place to go on the net for info about dj's, partys and so on. You will also have a service for bying dj equipment like turntables, mixers and so on as well as records direct online. About the party page we are looking for people world wide who can find out what's happening in theire part of the world, send us the info so we can publish it on the net. We are also looking for frequent visitors to the clubs who can write some storys about the different happenings as a club review part of the community. If you are interrested we can allways work a lil something out like you'll get all the releases from either Power FX, Reactive Music or both (still in an early state allthough it's kinda happening right now). Anyways, we will have a meeting on tuesday with all the people with the finances and so on so I'll know more after that. However I'll need the following right now; 1. Send me a mail if you would like to join as a contributer (party-, record- and gear reviewer/writerm and to report the partys coming up in your area) 2. Send me some feedback on what you are missing on the DJ portals on the net today so that we can make it better than the rest :) That's all for now. Hope you'll find this interresting. Best regards. /Pat - blurreddot.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Jul 10 19:40:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21860 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Jul 1999 19:40:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 21835 invoked from network); 10 Jul 1999 19:40:16 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Jul 1999 19:40:16 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA19369 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:52:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:52:14 -0400 (EDT) From: S K I N N E R To: DarkStep Mailing List Subject: (DARKSTEP) Bah Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You zubscribe to the Darkstep List only 3 minutes ago and you area already spaming us with ad's Please do not do this again.. If you were an member of the list it would be fine. But in this case it was just to spam us. Do not do this again or you will be removed and blocked. -The Admin of Hell Fire....... On Sat, 10 Jul 1999, pat craze wrote: }:> Hello Crew... }:> }:> I'm about to build a huge site for a company called Power FX. The main }:> focus on the site will be to sell it's products which are sample cd's }:> with loops and sound FX. Products released so far is the Club Sphere }:> serie which is for }:> dj sets with long rhythm loops for live sets. They have also released }:> sample cd's from }:> John "Jabo" Starks (drummer behind James Brown) who together with other }:> musicians }:> lay down those fat funky sounds. Another release is with three Motown }:> drummers who }:> togehter have played on more than 350 hitrecords. Upcoming releases are }:> coming from }:> Bootsy Collins with a lil bit of P-Funk, one release with Brittish 60's }:> Pop to mention }:> some. }:> }:> There will also be a subdivision about Reactive Music which is a new }:> recordlabel for house, techno, hip hop and jungle. }:> }:> The third section will be a complete DJ community and that's where you }:> come in. }:> }:> The DJ Source (http://blurreddot.com/dj-source/) will be in this new }:> place and the main }:> idea is that this }:> will be the number one place to go on the net for info about dj's, }:> partys and so on. }:> }:> You will also have a service for bying dj equipment like turntables, }:> mixers and so on as well as records direct online. }:> }:> About the party page we are looking for people world wide who can find }:> out what's happening in theire part of the world, send us the info so we }:> }:> can publish it on the net. We are also looking for frequent visitors to }:> the clubs who can write some storys about the different happenings as a }:> club review part of the community. If you are interrested we can allways }:> }:> work a lil something out like you'll get all the releases from either }:> Power FX, Reactive Music or both (still in an early state allthough it's }:> }:> kinda happening right now). }:> }:> Anyways, we will have a meeting on tuesday with all the people with the }:> finances and so on so I'll know more after that. }:> }:> However I'll need the following right now; }:> }:> 1. Send me a mail if you would like to join as a contributer (party-, }:> record- and gear reviewer/writerm and to report the partys coming up in }:> your area) }:> }:> 2. Send me some feedback on what you are missing on the DJ portals on }:> the net today so that we can make it better than the rest :) }:> }:> That's all for now. }:> }:> Hope you'll find this interresting. }:> }:> Best regards. /Pat - blurreddot.com }:> -- ******************************************************************** Robert Skinner skinner{at}skinner[dot]org Black Monolith Records Gabber List Administrator Things To Come Records Darkstep List Administrator -------------------------------------------------------------------- Skinner's Personal Ego http://www.skinner.org Black Monolith Records http://www.blackmonolith.com Things To Come Records http://www.thingstocome.com ******************************************************************** From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Jul 11 17:15:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19879 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Jul 1999 17:15:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 19870 invoked from network); 11 Jul 1999 17:15:52 -0000 Received: from pop.isholf.is (HELO mailer.isholf.is) (194.105.226.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Jul 1999 17:15:52 -0000 Received: from [194.105.224.112] by mailer.isholf.is (NTMail 4.30.0010/NU2631.00.d894e447) with ESMTP id ixtpdaaa for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 17:15:49 +0000 Message-ID: <002c01becbfc$05e2cf60$70e069c2@frimann> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=EDmann_Freyr_Bj=F6rnsson?=" To: Subject: (DARKSTEP) Recommendations? Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 17:18:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk For two years ago I was deep into the D´n´B genre and my favourite stuff was the dark techstep stuff like the guys at "No U-Turn" were putting out, and basicly if it was dark/hard then I´d like it. But I haven´t been into this genre of music for about two years now, I think the last techstep ep I bought was Neotropic by Ed Rush. So I really don´t know what has been happening since then. What I am looking for is if someone could give me some recommendations on what I have missed in the past two years in this type of music. Thanks in advance Freeman From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Jul 11 17:27:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23682 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Jul 1999 17:27:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 23567 invoked from network); 11 Jul 1999 17:27:45 -0000 Received: from pop.isholf.is (HELO mailer.isholf.is) (194.105.226.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Jul 1999 17:27:45 -0000 Received: from [194.105.224.112] by mailer.isholf.is (NTMail 4.30.0010/NU2631.00.d894e447) with ESMTP id cbupdaaa for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 17:27:40 +0000 Message-ID: <003101becbfd$ada6b260$70e069c2@frimann> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=EDmann_Freyr_Bj=F6rnsson?=" To: Subject: (DARKSTEP) MP3 Trade Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 17:29:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I´m checking if anyone here is interested in trading music on CD-R´s or in mp3 format on CD-R´s? I´m mainly looking for Ambient/Electro/D´n´B. I have a very good collection of Ambient/Electronic/IDM/Trip Hop mp3´s and CD´s. Totall of about 1500-2000 albums. I´m also very interested in getting some good dark D´n´B mixes. It´s possible to trade mp3´s/CD-R´s for mixtapes, or mixes on CD-R´s. And before anybody starts to flame me for trading mp3´s, then I just want to add that I mainly use mp3´s to explore and to get my hands on stuff that is not available/out-of-print. If I get something I like in mp3, and it´s not out-of-print then I buy it, I believe in supporting the artists that make the music. So if anybody is interested then just reply to me personaly, and we´ll work something out. Best Regards Freeman From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jul 12 23:30:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4045 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Jul 1999 23:30:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 4018 invoked from network); 12 Jul 1999 23:29:59 -0000 Received: from f266.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.157) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Jul 1999 23:29:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 1627 invoked by uid 0); 12 Jul 1999 23:29:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990712232931.1626.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.92.197.52 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 16:29:26 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.92.197.52] From: "edward heard" To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Recommendations? Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 16:29:26 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk try checkin the trouble on vinyl album called mission controll, or the analog sounding stuff out on gyration. word has it that no u-turn have been back in da studio so wait for the tests, very soon i hope. oh have you tried the no u-turn black labels, sound as a pound. hope this is of some help respect dj talldred >From: "Frímann Freyr Björnsson" >To: >Subject: (DARKSTEP) Recommendations? >Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 17:18:09 -0700 > >For two years ago I was deep into the D´n´B genre and my favourite stuff >was >the dark techstep stuff like the guys at "No U-Turn" were putting out, and >basicly if it was dark/hard then I´d like it. > >But I haven´t been into this genre of music for about two years now, I >think >the last techstep ep I bought was Neotropic by Ed Rush. So I really don´t >know what has been happening since then. > >What I am looking for is if someone could give me some recommendations on >what I have missed in the past two years in this type of music. > > >Thanks in advance >Freeman > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jul 13 00:11:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28872 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Jul 1999 00:11:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 28571 invoked from network); 13 Jul 1999 00:11:31 -0000 Received: from ns3.lisco.com (HELO franklin.lisco.net) (root@206.26.90.190) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Jul 1999 00:11:31 -0000 Received: from [198.69.183.39] (fairfield39.lisco.net [198.69.183.39]) by franklin.lisco.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA25816; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:11:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:25:42 -0500 To: c8@mail.ameth.org, gabber@hyperreal.org, darkstep@hyperreal.org From: "shawn o'sullivan" Subject: (DARKSTEP) bombardier live pa Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i was fortunate enough to see bombardier's live pa last saturday out here in iowa, at gabes, a small bar in iowa city. he fuckin blew the place up, playing plenty of already released tracks, as well as quite a few i'd like to see out on vinyl. started off with heavy industrial electro shit, and to my surprise, i wasn't the only one dancing...he kept the floor packed for the hour he played, the crowd kept moving as he got into faster breakcore stuff and 4/4 hardcore. he had to slip in that nearly unbearable "machine" track off of low res 3, accompanied by many cheers throughout the audience...but aside from that it was a flawless set of grit and distortion, and it was thoroughly heartening to see a packed crowd during a set as abrasive as that. shawn o'sullivan From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jul 13 03:03:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27448 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Jul 1999 03:03:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 27441 invoked from network); 13 Jul 1999 03:03:30 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Jul 1999 03:03:30 -0000 Received: from Husqvarnic@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id vOGOa20811 (3944) for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:02:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Husqvarnic@aol.com Message-ID: <61bd1619.24bc0659@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:02:49 EDT Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Recommendations? To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well... if you like it dark and a little harder i would have to recommend Sub/Version, Ghetto Safari, Kultbox, Fear, and Bad Company... plus a few others i haven't mentioned From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 14 08:47:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2783 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Jul 1999 08:47:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 2753 invoked from network); 14 Jul 1999 08:47:28 -0000 Received: from pop.isholf.is (HELO mailer.isholf.is) (194.105.226.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Jul 1999 08:47:28 -0000 Received: from [194.105.224.100] by mailer.isholf.is (NTMail 4.30.0010/NU2631.00.d894e447) with ESMTP id nixrdaaa for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 21:30:00 +0000 Message-ID: <002c01becdb1$91085360$5ae069c2@frimann> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=EDmann_Freyr_Bj=F6rnsson?=" To: Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Recommendations? Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 21:30:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Anyone know where I can mail order some dark d´n´b 12"´s or CD´s? I´m from Iceland you see, and I don´t wana buy music here, becouse it´s to expensive and also becouse I don´t like the music shops here..... thanks Freeman -----Original Message----- From: Husqvarnic@aol.com To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Date: 12. júlí 1999 20:03 Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Recommendations? >well... if you like it dark and a little harder i would have to recommend >Sub/Version, Ghetto Safari, Kultbox, Fear, and Bad Company... plus a few >others i haven't mentioned > From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 14 09:10:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14617 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Jul 1999 09:10:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 14601 invoked from network); 14 Jul 1999 09:10:47 -0000 Received: from edam.direct.ca (@199.60.229.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Jul 1999 09:10:47 -0000 Received: from mut-53-0184.direct.ca ([216.66.132.84] helo=direct.ca) by edam.direct.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #21) id 114L3r-0004Pn-00; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:10:43 -0700 Message-ID: <378C54C8.45612351@direct.ca> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:13:44 -0700 From: optic mystic Organization: Mediacore X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=EDmann?= Freyr =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rnsson?= CC: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Recommendations? References: <002c01becdb1$91085360$5ae069c2@frimann> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk "Frímann Freyr Björnsson" wrote: > > Anyone know where I can mail order some dark d´n´b 12"´s or CD´s? > > I´m from Iceland you see, and I don´t wana buy music here, becouse it´s to > expensive and also becouse I don´t like the music shops here..... I don't like my local shops either...conservative fucks [Europe] Hardkick.com http://hardkick.com contact@hardkick.com Praxis http://www.c8.com/praxis/records.html# praxis@gonebad.net Underground Music um@cityweb.co.uk http://www.cityweb.co.uk/um/ [U.S.] Massive Record Source massive@execpc.com 414.671.6696 / 1.877.massrec History of the futurE http://i.am/hotf Deadly Systems http://deadlysystems.com buda@deadlysystems.com -- colin http://mediacore.cjb.net -aug 3 & 5 @The Columbia- http://djclone.cjb.net From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 14 17:21:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6622 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Jul 1999 17:21:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 6615 invoked from network); 14 Jul 1999 17:21:50 -0000 Received: from tempest.nac.net (HELO nac.net) (209.123.109.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Jul 1999 17:21:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 26857 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jul 1999 17:21:40 -0000 Received: from s8.dial1.ctn.nac.net (HELO default) (209.123.161.58) by tempest.nac.net with SMTP; 14 Jul 1999 17:21:40 -0000 Message-ID: <378CC86A.386C@nac.net> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:27:06 -0400 From: ramos@nac.net Reply-To: ramos@nac.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Recommendations? References: <002c01becdb1$91085360$5ae069c2@frimann> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Frímann Freyr Björnsson wrote: > > Anyone know where I can mail order some dark d´n´b 12"´s or CD´s? > > I´m from Iceland you see, and I don´t wana buy music here, becouse it´s to > expensive and also becouse I don´t like the music shops here..... > > thanks > Freeman all the places optic mystic mentioned are excellent for the more experimental stuff, but if you want more commercial d n'b (i.e. ed rush, ram, audio couture) then check www.planetxusa.com www.satelliterecords.com www.breakbeatscience.com all have real audio samples... i would probably reccomend satellite, they are my personal fave... peace ako From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Jul 17 22:01:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2549 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Jul 1999 22:01:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 2541 invoked from network); 17 Jul 1999 22:01:20 -0000 Received: from tempest.nac.net (HELO nac.net) (209.123.109.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Jul 1999 22:01:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 9163 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jul 1999 22:01:17 -0000 Received: from s2.dial1.ctn.nac.net (HELO default) (209.123.161.52) by tempest.nac.net with SMTP; 17 Jul 1999 22:01:17 -0000 Message-ID: <3790FE75.50B5@nac.net> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 18:06:45 -0400 From: ramos@nac.net Reply-To: ramos@nac.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) blah blah blah Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk just got back from the record store... quite a few nice ones came out this week first of all the new panacea lp finally came out it is absolutely sick!! new sound, pretty different than past stuff. the only thing that sucks about it is that i can't decide which track to drop cause they're all so fierce. new label- biotic, the first release is by dylan and facs, and of course its excellent stuff new 5hq by dj stratus is really nice i was pleasently surprised cause its not a label i regularly buy. new konflict on renegade hardware- pretty decent stuff nublack 20 by hidden face- i think this actually came out last week excellent record though new partisan- nice chill darkness new kartoons by dragon fist (a.k.a. ray kieth) blah blah blah peace ako From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Jul 18 00:52:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10708 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Jul 1999 00:52:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 10701 invoked from network); 18 Jul 1999 00:52:08 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Jul 1999 00:52:08 -0000 Received: from BreakNoize@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id mYZWa06608 (3706); Sat, 17 Jul 1999 20:51:04 -0400 (EDT) From: BreakNoize@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 20:49:54 EDT Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) blah blah blah To: ramos@nac.net, darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ramos@nac.net writes: << just got back from the record store... quite a few nice ones came out this week first of all the new panacea lp finally came out it is absolutely sick!! >> greetings, damn i didn't even know panacea came out with a new lp! what's the title and the cat.no. anyways? i just picked up some older chrome stuff that i've ben trying to get a hold of a couple weeks back. i got: chrome18 (2x12") with panacea, problem child, and heinrich at hart chrome12 by problem child and chrome14 by heinrich at hart. there all some pretty fresh stuff! i love the old chrome sound. -baseck From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Jul 18 01:41:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21719 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Jul 1999 01:41:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 21712 invoked from network); 18 Jul 1999 01:41:14 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Jul 1999 01:41:14 -0000 Received: from PoLoJngLsT@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id vFQAa21554 (4539) for ; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 21:40:05 -0400 (EDT) From: PoLoJngLsT@aol.com Message-ID: <8a586a49.24c28a75@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 21:40:05 EDT Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) blah blah blah To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 7/18/99 12:52:19 AM !!!First Boot!!!, BreakNoize@aol.com writes: << damn i didn't even know panacea came out with a new lp! what's the title and the cat.no. anyways? >> the name of the LP is "Future Beware" .........i don't have it tho, since i'm in the states and all........but i did however manage to pick up the one sided pre-release, "Machine Master Pt. 1"......and lemme tell you,......this shit fucking rips....i can't wait to hear the other tracks on this forthcoming LP.... ninja-steppin'........ bobby shin`obi From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Jul 18 01:55:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25345 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Jul 1999 01:55:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 25338 invoked from network); 18 Jul 1999 01:55:43 -0000 Received: from law2-f164.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.164) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Jul 1999 01:55:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 56590 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jul 1999 01:55:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990718015516.56589.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.130.218.79 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 18:55:16 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.130.218.79] From: "Jeff Packard" To: PoLoJngLsT@aol.com, darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) blah blah blah Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 01:55:16 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'm seriously feeling Bad Company "Pulse"...mmmm, mmmm, good. god damn those UK fucks...peace -Jeff _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Jul 18 03:03:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5923 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Jul 1999 03:03:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 5916 invoked from network); 18 Jul 1999 03:03:30 -0000 Received: from tempest.nac.net (HELO nac.net) (209.123.109.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Jul 1999 03:03:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 8790 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jul 1999 03:03:26 -0000 Received: from s25.dial1.ctn.nac.net (HELO default) (209.123.161.75) by tempest.nac.net with SMTP; 18 Jul 1999 03:03:26 -0000 Message-ID: <37914546.377E@nac.net> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 23:08:54 -0400 From: ramos@nac.net Reply-To: ramos@nac.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) blah blah blah References: <8a586a49.24c28a75@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk PoLoJngLsT@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 7/18/99 12:52:19 AM !!!First Boot!!!, BreakNoize@aol.com > writes: > > << damn i didn't even know panacea came out with a new lp! what's the title > and > the cat.no. anyways? >> > > the name of the LP is "Future Beware" .........i don't have it tho, since i'm > in the states and all........but i did however manage to pick up the one > sided pre-release, "Machine Master Pt. 1"......and lemme tell you,......this > shit fucking rips....i can't wait to hear the other tracks on this > forthcoming LP.... the lp is # 41 4 tracks- machine master part 2 (completely destroys the one on the sampler, part 2 is much better), robo-turbo, rercreate creation, and future beware (my favorite) every single track is tight, i've always been a big chrome fan ( i have 10 through 40 minus a couple that i cant seem to find) but this is the best yet in my opinion. check the audio sample at www.planetxusa.com i got my copy this morning at planet x and i know satellite just got it in as well. peace ako From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jul 19 17:18:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20397 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Jul 1999 17:18:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 20370 invoked from network); 19 Jul 1999 17:18:36 -0000 Received: from bbs.clubtek.com (216.18.21.100) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Jul 1999 17:18:36 -0000 Received: from MHS by bbs.clubtek.com with MHS id AKBEDGAD ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:21:06 -0800 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:20:54 -0800 From: holt@clubtek.com Message-ID: Subject: (DARKSTEP) Autonomous Mutant fest - Steppers needed. To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was just wondering if anyone on the list was planning a trip to the Autonomous Mutant Festival near Eugene, Oregon this year (visit www.hyperreal.org/~spaz/AMF for more of a low down)? Me and Colin (Optic mystic/Clone) were considering the trip. We think it would be an excellent opportunity for some of the west coast folks to hook up and meet (since it is the half-way point between SoCal and Canada. Will there be enough darkstep/ hardcore and/or experimental folks for us to organize a sound system of our own? The festival itself is free so there is no excuses for not going. What do you say? Should we all go and show our deviant colors at this thing or what? Relevant info follows. -Seedy aaron winett wrote: > here's a more detailed list of confirmed participants with some contact > info.... > Soundsystems/Party Collectives: > Ambiosis (Dallas) 1-888-218-8044 > S.P.A.Z. (San Francisco) www.hyperreal.org/spaz 1-800-486-6862 > Scooby Doo Crew (Houston) www.scoobydoocrew.org 1-800-625-0225 > Myndst8 (Tuscon) www.arcanealchemy.com > True Kids Network (Portland) 503-667-6138 > Inertia Labs (Seattle) bolt@nwlink.com > Eugene Friends and Family (Eugene) eugene-fnf.skylab.org > Freak-Freq (Portland) rafikx23@hotmail.com > p23 (Brooklyn) p23soundsystem.cjb.net > Cirkus/Performance: > Cirkus of Tiny Invisibility 1-888-745-4179 > Wandering Womb 1-800-3ringpp x. 1144 > Fireflies > Live Music-- > Rhythm and Fire > PAN > Nommo Oggo > Agape Beat Transmission > Electric Mayhem > ManaProxy > Arakne Konsept > Ganesha Column > 1-800-486-6862 is back up!! all of the 1-800 #'s listed here should have > AMF location info closer to the date....so if one doesn't work, try > another!! From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jul 19 17:36:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29223 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Jul 1999 17:36:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 29211 invoked from network); 19 Jul 1999 17:36:25 -0000 Received: from gate.ea.com (HELO ea.com) (159.153.89.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Jul 1999 17:36:25 -0000 Received: from iloyd (4-21-35-176.ea.com [4.21.35.176] (may be forged)) by ea.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA20262; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990719102819.0099b6b0@shell13.ba.best.com> X-Sender: poop@shell13.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:28:19 -0700 To: dnb-prod@breakbeat.co.uk From: i a n l o y d Subject: (DARKSTEP) new lick: cyclic Cc: sf-jungle@saturn5.com, darkstep@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <8842206a.24c4b57c@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk stream this: http://www.nougat.com/soundz/cyclic.ram or hit this (downloadable files linked here): http://www.nougat.com/muzic/studio.html normally i'd say a bunch of stuff here about why you should listen to this but i'm too tired to come up with anything sarcastic right now. shouts to Honey B, Sifu, Sine, Nman, Maytag, Foo, and Source for the positive feedback and pressure to finish it :) and a big, huge ups to Bryce for the strings sounds. -ian c o n t r o l l e d . s u b s t a n c e http://www.thermalrecordings.com http://www.nougat.com http://www.urbansounds.com =========[ end.transmission ]======== From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jul 20 09:20:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16986 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Jul 1999 09:20:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 16969 invoked from network); 20 Jul 1999 09:20:53 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Jul 1999 09:20:53 -0000 Message-ID: <19990720090240.28400.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [209.144.230.80] by web1; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 02:02:40 PDT Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 02:02:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "ÐåñÌë£" "k·" "±åÝ£ð®" Reply-To: tech137@rocketmail.com Subject: (DARKSTEP) new track >>>> e-trauma To: speedbass@egroups.com Cc: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This one goes out to all the headbangers out there ;) http://www.txraves.org/~tech137/mp3/danieltaylor_e-trauma.mp3 This track was played at the Boliver Island beach rave, Love. === Daniel K. Taylor http://www.txraves.org/~tech137/ http://www.mp3.com/danieltaylor/ http://www.speedbass.com/ -Five days a week, my body is a temple; the other two, it's an ammusement park. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jul 20 16:59:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13346 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Jul 1999 16:59:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 13099 invoked from network); 20 Jul 1999 16:59:24 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Jul 1999 16:59:24 -0000 Received: from Kerry413@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.25) id vZHTa18186 (318) for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:36:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Kerry413@aol.com Message-ID: <6e812698.24c5ff77@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:36:07 EDT Subject: (DARKSTEP) a walk in the woods To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk As much as I love this list, (this quiet yet readable-post-list that doesn't clutter my box like others) I must say good bye. Enough with the jungle or drum n bass production, I need a "rock me off my ass" live set. Where one is, I do not yet know, but when I find my fountain of "juice", I will let you all know as well. Until then. . . . Kerry PS Can someone privately respond as to how I unsubscribe. I have tried several times with no luck. No laughing from the gallery please. :) From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 21 00:28:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6501 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Jul 1999 00:28:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 6417 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 00:27:57 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 00:27:57 -0000 Received: from Husqvarnic@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.25) id dALZa28210 (4395); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:24:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Husqvarnic@aol.com Message-ID: <9b37c2ef.24c66d4e@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:24:46 EDT Subject: (DARKSTEP) Fear Records website now online To: c8@mail.ameth.org, darkstep@hyperreal.org, gabber@hyperreal.org, breaks@lists.xmission.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk howdy folks, just letting everyone know our new website is up with some Real Audio of upcoming tracks... expect lots of dark stuff... and now the fun begins From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 21 00:32:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11564 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Jul 1999 00:32:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 11402 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 00:32:00 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 00:32:00 -0000 Received: from Husqvarnic@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.25) id vJFQa09357 (4395) for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:30:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Husqvarnic@aol.com Message-ID: <9f8b6d3a.24c66ebb@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:30:51 EDT Subject: (DARKSTEP) hmmm... Fear Records webpage To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk you know, i bet when i post about the webpage, people would like to know the address.... http://www.fear-records.com real audio is in the discography section From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 21 11:10:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15089 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Jul 1999 11:10:24 -0000 Date: 21 Jul 1999 11:10:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 15081 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 11:10:23 -0000 Received: from law2-f78.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 11:10:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 10585 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jul 1999 11:09:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19990721110955.10584.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.243.101.206 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 04:09:55 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.243.101.206] From: "Florian Sauter" To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:09:55 CEST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Having bought my turntables last week I am a absolute beginner as a DJ and unfortunately I know only very few real great dark-/techstep producers. So if anyone could give me a hint hoe to get great ill material reaching at least the quality and energy level of the Position Chrome acts (my personal favorites) I would be more than grateful. Thanx a lot, Mako aka Shadow Being END ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 21 12:34:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6408 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Jul 1999 12:34:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 6401 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 12:34:21 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 12:34:21 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA13482 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:46:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:46:55 -0400 (EDT) From: S K I N N E R To: DarkStep Mailing List Subject: (DARKSTEP) WOWO HAPPY B_DAY_LIST Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well the darkstep list has just subscribed its 101 user today. It is also the 6 month Bday of the list :) I will be updating the website this weekend. Thos who still want to get thier websites linked please email skinner909@home.com with the url and the type of site. Prodcuer,DJ,Personal,Label.. I would also like people to submit url's for lists they feel "fit" the darkstep world well and should go on our resources page :) -- ******************************************************************** Robert Skinner skinner{at}skinner[dot]org Black Monolith Records Gabber List Administrator Things To Come Records Darkstep List Administrator -------------------------------------------------------------------- Skinner's Personal Ego http://www.skinner.org Black Monolith Records http://www.blackmonolith.com Things To Come Records http://www.thingstocome.com ******************************************************************** From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 21 12:36:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6790 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Jul 1999 12:36:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 6781 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 12:36:25 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 12:36:25 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA13504 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:48:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:48:59 -0400 (EDT) From: S K I N N E R To: DarkStep Mailing List Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) WOWO HAPPY B_DAY_LIST In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, S K I N N E R wrote: }:> I would also like people to submit url's for lists they feel }:> "fit" the darkstep world well and should go on our resources }:> page :) I smoked to much crack this morning with breakfast. "lists" should be "labels". This People I want you to submit any url's for labels you feel are a good resource for darkstepper's in trainging :) -- ******************************************************************** Robert Skinner skinner{at}skinner[dot]org Black Monolith Records Gabber List Administrator Things To Come Records Darkstep List Administrator -------------------------------------------------------------------- Skinner's Personal Ego http://www.skinner.org Black Monolith Records http://www.blackmonolith.com Things To Come Records http://www.thingstocome.com ******************************************************************** From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 21 17:04:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29639 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Jul 1999 17:04:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 29619 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 17:04:54 -0000 Received: from ns3.lisco.com (HELO franklin.lisco.net) (root@206.26.90.190) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 17:04:54 -0000 Received: from [198.69.183.21] (fairfield21.lisco.net [198.69.183.21]) by franklin.lisco.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00119; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:04:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:19:19 -0500 To: gabber@hyperreal.org, darkstep@hyperreal.org, c8-admin@mail.ameth.org, noise@onelist.com From: "shawn o'sullivan" Subject: (DARKSTEP) new york Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey all - after too many years of suffering here in iowa, i finally get to go back east for college. i'm gonna be headin out to bard college, in upstate new york (annandale-on-hudson), which is in reasonable train distance to nyc... soo... i want to get in touch with you new york hardcore/experimental/noise/etc fans/dj's/producers/promoters/label owners/record store owners/etc. i probably won't have too much free time, but i'd like to spend some of that time making whatever ridiculous contribution to the collective "scene" i can, or, at the very least, make some decent connections for buying records and going to shows. give me an email soon if you can help me out, i'll be leaving monday, and i start school august 7th.. thanks, shawn o'sullivan From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 21 20:10:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4852 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Jul 1999 20:10:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 4603 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 20:10:29 -0000 Received: from tempest.nac.net (HELO nac.net) (209.123.109.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 20:10:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 11306 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jul 1999 20:10:19 -0000 Received: from s3.dial1.ctn.nac.net (HELO default) (209.123.161.53) by tempest.nac.net with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 20:10:19 -0000 Message-ID: <37962A77.1136@nac.net> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:15:51 -0400 From: ramos@nac.net Reply-To: ramos@nac.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Fear Records website now online References: <9b37c2ef.24c66d4e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Husqvarnic@aol.com wrote: > > howdy folks, just letting everyone know our new website is up with some Real > Audio of upcoming tracks... > > expect lots of dark stuff... > > and now the fun begins i really dig the two dj hidden tracks you have up on the site. plus i really like the idea of drum n' bass by non drum n' bass producers. a good portion of the stuff i play is by hardcore producers like scud, cristopher fringelli... and i think that stuff is far more original and interesting. when does the first record come out???? peace ako p.s. if i were you i would try to get dan doormouse to do some tracks for your label, that one breakbeat track he did, skelechairs, on deadly systems was sick. i would love to see him do some more drum n' bass type stuff. From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 21 20:23:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16404 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Jul 1999 20:23:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 16075 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 20:23:32 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 20:23:32 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA16947; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:35:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:35:50 -0400 (EDT) From: S K I N N E R To: ramos@nac.net cc: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Fear Records website now online In-Reply-To: <37962A77.1136@nac.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 ramos@nac.net wrote: }:> really like the idea of drum n' bass by non drum n' }:> bass producers. a good portion of the stuff i play }:> is by hardcore producers like scud, cristopher }:> fringelli... and i think that stuff is far more }:> original and interesting. when does the first record }:> come out???? peace Hidden is a great prodcuer. He is signed and slated to my label,. Hopefully he will be down with the darkstep leabel too when we lauch that this SamHain 1999. Fear sucks! ;) actualy what Paulie is doing with the label is great. Just Like BMR , FreakShow and all the new blood American and Import labels. Were doing it for the music and forgoing the whole corporate aspect of it all. Relaying on friendly good prodcuers and distro's... Sigh Now if we all just break even we will be set :) -- ******************************************************************** Robert Skinner skinner{at}skinner[dot]org Black Monolith Records Gabber List Administrator Things To Come Records Darkstep List Administrator -------------------------------------------------------------------- Skinner's Personal Ego http://www.skinner.org Black Monolith Records http://www.blackmonolith.com Things To Come Records http://www.thingstocome.com ******************************************************************** From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 21 21:04:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17969 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Jul 1999 21:04:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 17962 invoked from network); 21 Jul 1999 21:04:08 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Jul 1999 21:04:08 -0000 Received: from Husqvarnic@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.25) id vHZTa14357 (3701) for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:01:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Husqvarnic@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:01:44 EDT Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Fear Records website now online To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 7/21/99 4:14:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ramos@nac.net writes: > i really dig the two dj hidden tracks you have up on the site. plus i > really like the idea of drum n' bass by non drum n' bass producers. a > good portion of the stuff i play is by hardcore producers like scud, > cristopher fringelli... and i think that stuff is far more original and > interesting. i agree... sometimes the best way to get something out of a pattern is to get an outsider to do it... brings a new perspective to the situation... > when does the first record come out???? well... i got the master right here... it should be getting cut and pressed in august and be out on promo for september... > p.s. if i were you i would try to get dan doormouse to do some tracks > for your label, that one breakbeat track he did, skelechairs, on deadly > systems was sick. i would love to see him do some more drum n' bass type > stuff. actually, someone in milwaukee, don't know who yet, did a sick dnb track under the moniker of foreign object... it was on a double pack from synthetic records... doormouse, davros, and unabomber are also on this double pack.. and it is rumored to be one of them... From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jul 22 05:27:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9487 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Jul 1999 05:27:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 9453 invoked from network); 22 Jul 1999 05:27:47 -0000 Received: from cheddar.direct.ca (199.60.229.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Jul 1999 05:27:47 -0000 Received: from mut-53-0547.direct.ca ([216.66.134.47] helo=direct.ca) by cheddar.direct.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #25) id 117BM0-0005Ga-00 for darkstep@hyperreal.org; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:25:13 -0700 Message-ID: <3796AC8D.BB19C025@direct.ca> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:30:53 -0700 From: optic mystic Organization: Mediacore X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep list Subject: (DARKSTEP) Hot Baud Rally -Vancouver, August 3 & 5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Mediacore presents HOT BAUD RALLY Strange vehicles, networked omnipresence, and cheap drinks. Electronic folk music and performance for the age of hyper-vigilance. Tuesday August 3 & Thursday August 5, 1999 @The Columbia Hotel (303 Columbia, Vancouver Canada, 604.683.3757) $4 each night...10pm-1am (first sets start @10, doors @9) Heat 3, Tuesday August 3 live sets: Error 404 ( http://noisemusic.org ) -electro-industrial noise-jazz Manu Fortis -drunk'n'bass DJ support: Akashic aka Morph.com.223 (Vancouver/WinniPEG, Neurochemically Inclined) In constant hyperflux, the former long-time resident @Wellington's attempts to channel the endless permutations randomly finding their way into his mind from the fringes of shadowtime into some audible form...from lulling soundscapes to manic beats, the fine line between beauteous lullabies and claustrophobic distortion erodes readily...everything is permissable. live analogue fractals by the amazing Merlyn performance artistry from Pirates of Pestilence. Heat 5, Thursday August 5 live sonic & rhythmic explorations: 75 Million Changs (ex-Pigface percussionist...possible last Canadian gig) Einsturzende Nasenbluten (Straight Outta Krautback) DJ support: Miss X (Victoria/Vancouver, Snatchface Records) -techno/hardcore One of the region's most promising DJs, Miss X kicks ass! mind-vaulting video feedback wizardy by Merlyn plus a Free Sample Sacrifice! info: http://mediacore.cjb.net -- colin Hot Baud Rally: T/Th Aug 3/5 @The Columbia, Vancouver Canada http://mediacore.cjb.net From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jul 22 17:19:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27556 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Jul 1999 17:19:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 27549 invoked from network); 22 Jul 1999 17:19:33 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Jul 1999 17:19:33 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA25541 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:32:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:31:59 -0400 (EDT) From: S K I N N E R To: DarkStep Mailing List Subject: (DARKSTEP) Top of the Decade Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well since the New milenium is here. And its been a good solid Decade for All Electronic Dance Music Culture. I figure why not see what your all time Records are. Since we only have 5 More months left I doubt that more then 1 or 2 record will make it to sed list. Do here it is what are your top 15 songs/records of all time. As pertainging to this list. -- ******************************************************************** Robert Skinner skinner{at}skinner[dot]org Black Monolith Records Gabber List Administrator Things To Come Records Darkstep List Administrator -------------------------------------------------------------------- Skinner's Personal Ego http://www.skinner.org Black Monolith Records http://www.blackmonolith.com Things To Come Records http://www.thingstocome.com ******************************************************************** From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jul 22 17:37:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10608 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Jul 1999 17:37:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 10578 invoked from network); 22 Jul 1999 17:37:15 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Jul 1999 17:37:15 -0000 Received: from Husqvarnic@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.25) id vXSWa21217 (4199) for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:36:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Husqvarnic@aol.com Message-ID: <7835ec28.24c8b08a@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:36:10 EDT Subject: (DARKSTEP) unsubbing To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well, i finally got my act together... and i got a domain... so i no longer need aol... so i am dumping it... ahhhh! vengence!!!... i will resub with my wonderful new email shortly From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jul 23 02:41:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2367 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Jul 1999 02:41:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 2354 invoked from network); 23 Jul 1999 02:41:56 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Jul 1999 02:41:56 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA29897 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 22:54:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 22:54:24 -0400 (EDT) From: S K I N N E R To: DarkStep Mailing List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk reviews. Finally got the the store this week. I got 2 records to be amazingly good. First was Dylans new label biotic. I was iffy about it but the tracks where really rolling. Not as experimental as I normaly like but its still better then alot of the cheese hitting my area. The next is off the down low records by the "sprokets" all I need to say is OMG. :) Nasty Hard yet still full of rolling energy. This white low budget label is def worth checking out -- ******************************************************************** Robert Skinner skinner{at}skinner[dot]org Black Monolith Records Gabber List Administrator Things To Come Records Darkstep List Administrator -------------------------------------------------------------------- Skinner's Personal Ego http://www.skinner.org Black Monolith Records http://www.blackmonolith.com Things To Come Records http://www.thingstocome.com ******************************************************************** From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jul 23 03:02:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12404 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Jul 1999 03:02:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 12272 invoked from network); 23 Jul 1999 03:02:03 -0000 Received: from tempest.nac.net (HELO nac.net) (209.123.109.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Jul 1999 03:02:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 12923 invoked by uid 0); 23 Jul 1999 03:01:55 -0000 Received: from s5.dial2.ctn.nac.net (HELO default) (209.123.161.105) by tempest.nac.net with SMTP; 23 Jul 1999 03:01:55 -0000 Message-ID: <3797DC71.3B56@nac.net> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:07:29 -0400 From: ramos@nac.net Reply-To: ramos@nac.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) Re: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > First was Dylans new label biotic. I was iffy about it but > the tracks where really rolling. Not as experimental as I > normaly like but its still better then alot of the cheese > hitting my area. definetly the second break on the bside where it gets all tweaked out is nice and twisted... > The next is off the down low records by the "sprokets" > all I need to say is OMG. :) Nasty Hard yet still full of > rolling energy. This white low budget label is def worth > checking out i heard about that isn't it a us release or something? anyway as for my fav records of all time 1. pure and fringelli-antichrist (subversion 02) 2. alec empire-fuck it up for everyone ( dhr limited 02) 3. panacea-decade of destruction (position chrome 34) 4. current value-seeds of mutation (position chrome 37) 5. e-sassin-the light is the enemy (sound sphere) 666666. dom-quadrant 6 (moving shadow) 7. makai-omen (nu black 4) peace ako From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jul 23 04:17:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11876 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Jul 1999 04:17:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 11868 invoked from network); 23 Jul 1999 04:17:01 -0000 Received: from w3.bluegrass.net (root@205.198.88.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Jul 1999 04:17:01 -0000 Received: from fear-records.com (dial4.telco.bluegrass.net [205.198.147.4]) by w3.bluegrass.net (8.8.5/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA03522 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:16:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3797EB70.BEECC62@fear-records.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:11:28 -0400 From: Paul Reply-To: Paul@fear-records.com Organization: Fear Records X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Darkstep Mailing List Subject: (DARKSTEP) i'm back Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yee haw... finally got my new email and all that working and i am finally free from the evil grasp of AOL!... anyway.. this is the new email for now on... From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jul 23 17:48:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4815 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Jul 1999 17:48:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 4780 invoked from network); 23 Jul 1999 17:48:12 -0000 Received: from tempest.nac.net (HELO nac.net) (209.123.109.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Jul 1999 17:48:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 10150 invoked by uid 0); 23 Jul 1999 17:48:09 -0000 Received: from s20.dial1.ctn.nac.net (HELO default) (209.123.161.70) by tempest.nac.net with SMTP; 23 Jul 1999 17:48:09 -0000 Message-ID: <3798AC25.64A2@nac.net> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:53:42 -0400 From: ramos@nac.net Reply-To: ramos@nac.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Re: References: <3797DC71.3B56@nac.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > anyway as for my fav records of all time > > 1. pure and fringelli-antichrist (subversion 02) > 2. alec empire-fuck it up for everyone ( dhr limited 02) > 3. panacea-decade of destruction (position chrome 34) > 4. current value-seeds of mutation (position chrome 37) > 5. e-sassin-the light is the enemy (sound sphere) > 666666. dom-quadrant 6 (moving shadow) > 7. makai-omen (nu black 4) i don't know how i forgot it but 8. twisted anger-9277 (penny black) i'm interested in hearing everyone else's favorite records ... hrvatski- i have subversion 3 the remix one but i didn't really like it as much as the original... you wouldn't happen to know when any new subversion stuff is coming out would you???? peace ako From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jul 23 19:03:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3243 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Jul 1999 19:03:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 3233 invoked from network); 23 Jul 1999 19:03:17 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Jul 1999 19:03:17 -0000 Received: from BreakNoize@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.25) id vYLOa16841 (4241) for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:53:35 -0400 (EDT) From: BreakNoize@aol.com Message-ID: <818d32c2.24ca1431@aol.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:53:37 EDT Subject: (DARKSTEP) Favorites at the moment To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk greetings all! these are some of the records i've been playing alot lately: newskin2- dan hekate ambush6- dj scud/christoph fringeli ambush4- scud/aphasic praxis32- hecate chrome10- problem child amputate4- scrot irritant- (chemwaste) clear7" sinthetic rec- post modern broadcast- davros, unibomber, foreign object, etc.. dhr.lim6- patric catani chrome9- panacea- low profile darkness and a bunch of other junk. as you could see alot of the stuff is sorta old! -Baseck From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Jul 25 11:09:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 860 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Jul 1999 11:09:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 846 invoked from network); 25 Jul 1999 11:09:50 -0000 Received: from edam.direct.ca (@199.60.229.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Jul 1999 11:09:50 -0000 Received: from mut-53-0206.direct.ca ([216.66.132.102] helo=direct.ca) by edam.direct.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #21) id 118M9z-0004RJ-00; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 04:09:40 -0700 Message-ID: <379AF135.5ACACE2B@direct.ca> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 04:12:53 -0700 From: optic mystic Organization: Mediacore X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep list CC: ramos@nac.net Subject: (DARKSTEP) sub/version 4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > >ramos@nac.net wrote: > >> hrvatski- i have subversion 3 the remix one but i didn't really like it > >> as much as the original... > >> you wouldn't happen to know when any new subversion stuff is coming out > >> would you???? pure wrote: > subversion 4 should be out [in a few weeks] or a bit later with one > side from me (fight ´em from c8.com>>tunes>>..) and one from christoph > __________________________________ > .......pure.test.at........ > ........www.c8.com/loop/.......... > ......www.c8.com/atmosfear/....... > __________________________________ -- colin Hot Baud Rally: T/Th Aug 3/5 @The Columbia, Vancouver Canada http://mediacore.cjb.net From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Jul 25 22:22:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16007 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Jul 1999 22:22:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 15995 invoked from network); 25 Jul 1999 22:22:41 -0000 Received: from tempest.nac.net (HELO nac.net) (209.123.109.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Jul 1999 22:22:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 27316 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jul 1999 22:22:38 -0000 Received: from s4.dial1.ctn.nac.net (HELO default) (209.123.161.54) by tempest.nac.net with SMTP; 25 Jul 1999 22:22:38 -0000 Message-ID: <379B8F7D.40E1@nac.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 18:28:14 -0400 From: ramos@nac.net Reply-To: ramos@nac.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Re: subversion References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > they are rumours that subversion 004 is in work... dj pure one side, xoph > fringeli and hecate the other side... should be out in a couple of weeks. > joel. cool thanks, you know what else i've been looking for... psywarp 3 it was supposed to come out in april but i haven't seen it anywhere. does anyone know anything about it?? peace ako From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jul 28 00:06:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17419 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Jul 1999 00:06:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 17401 invoked from network); 28 Jul 1999 00:06:44 -0000 Received: from tempest.nac.net (HELO nac.net) (209.123.109.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Jul 1999 00:06:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 6969 invoked by uid 0); 28 Jul 1999 00:06:34 -0000 Received: from s43.dial1.ctn.nac.net (HELO default) (209.123.161.93) by tempest.nac.net with SMTP; 28 Jul 1999 00:06:34 -0000 Message-ID: <379E4ADC.3B14@nac.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:12:12 -0400 From: ramos@nac.net Reply-To: ramos@nac.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) blah blah blah Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk just returned from the record shop... got the 2nd half of the fuze lp, which is just as tight as the first... 6 tracks for $15- you can't go wrong picked up the first release on a new label called solid ground. really nice. it doesn't have the normal bass-snare bass-snare 2-step beat, it goes bass-bass bass-snare, i guess you could call it 1-step, its kinda like that track "combat" from the ram lp. i was flipping through the crates of sale stuff on the floor i found bloody fist 17 the one with that sick jungle track by mark bee, hell yeah! and finally psywarp 3 is out by cold fusion mafia, and it was well worth the wait, beautifully produced dark dark drum n' bass madness!!! did any one hear the new sudden def record?? i heard it was good, but i couldn't find it. i guess thats it for now blah blah peace ako From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jul 29 20:20:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10957 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Jul 1999 20:20:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 10640 invoked from network); 29 Jul 1999 20:19:51 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Jul 1999 20:19:51 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA99488 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:31:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:31:49 -0400 (EDT) From: S K I N N E R To: DarkStep Mailing List Subject: (DARKSTEP) FAQ reminder. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk THE DARKSTEP MAILING LIST Welcome to the darkstep mailing list, where the topics are all aspects of the harder and faste, darker kinds of drum n bass (darkstep, techstep etc.) The list administrators is skinner@skinner.org Following is a small list of answers to frequently asked questions related to the darkstep list administration procedures and netiquette. Please read before you post to the list! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- How do I get on the list? 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The darkstep list is archived at: http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep/ --- end of darkstep.info file From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jul 30 02:04:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22879 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Jul 1999 02:04:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 22868 invoked from network); 30 Jul 1999 02:04:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 3rdbass.fastrans.net) (209.144.60.224) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Jul 1999 02:04:44 -0000 Received: from bitmechanic.com (max1-ip-23.fastrans.net [209.144.56.123]) by 3rdbass.fastrans.net (2.6 Build 1 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id VAA01047 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:00:47 -0500 Message-ID: <37A10904.C25FD14A@bitmechanic.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:08:08 -0500 From: Dan Reply-To: daniel@bitmechanic.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) a touch of hard space Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I picked up the new Smokey Joe on Smokers Inc. about three weeks ago. A triple pack, six tracks, four of which have redeeming qualities. I could do without disk two, Funkstar and Ain't Hip Hop, with obvious themes of afrofunk on one and junglized hip hop style beats on the other. But Run Dem and Master VSOP both dwell on the dark side of tech step, as do Twiss and Shaft. Not terribly tough to mix, with good quality sound and vinyl production. I suppose this is another of the new breed of London drum n bass producers to show up in the last six months, with more dancefloor-oriented darkness in mind. It cerrtainly doesnt compare to the recent release on Deadly Systems, less of a hardcore album and more of a mixed genre of idm breaks, distortion and and agressiveness. Its by Symatic Response, and it kicks some ass. Check this one out. Dan: Vodka Pimp From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jul 30 03:19:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18416 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Jul 1999 03:19:28 -0000 Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Received: (qmail 18409 invoked from network); 30 Jul 1999 03:19:26 -0000 Received: from cheddar.direct.ca (199.60.229.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Jul 1999 03:19:26 -0000 Received: from mut-53-0409.direct.ca ([216.66.133.105] helo=direct.ca) by cheddar.direct.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #25) id 11A39s-0005c8-00; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:16:33 -0700 Message-ID: <37A11A74.58076650@direct.ca> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:22:28 -0700 From: optic mystic Organization: Mediacore X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: (DARKSTEP) F.T.P. -Buffalo, Sat. July 31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > Crisis Help Line presents: F.T.P. > Buffalo, NY July 31, 1999 > info: (716) 879-0974 (sorry the infoline is hard to hear it will be fixed > later tonight > > djs: > > jungle/hardcore room > > Double D (Calgary, CA) hardcore > Fishead (Winipeg, CA) hardcore on 3 dex > Dan Logic (Binghamton, NY) vs The Concept (Buffalo) > jungle/hardcore tagteam set > Interupt Vector (Calgary, CA) hardcore live PA > Le Freak (Toronto, CA) hardcore and hardtrance > Sensio (Rochester, NY) jungle > > local support: > > Crisis 909 (hardcore) > Computer Blue (darkstep) > DJ Cable w/ MC Valient (Inteligent d'n'b) > Dan Ratel (jungle) > Stevie Washington (inteligent d'n'b) > > trance/techno room > > Machine (St Catherines, CA) hard minimal techno extended 2 hour set > Loop Dokter (Kitchener, CA) trance (just added to the lineup) > Elixir (Toronto, CA) hard and epic trance > Nigil Caenaan (Toronto, CA) techno > Dred (Rochester, NY) hard and epic trance > > local support: > > DJ Soma (trance) > Neveu (hard techno) > Ch'ien (trance) > Bulletz (hard techno) just added to the lineup > > no Mike Parker will not be spinning at this event do to scedualing > problems... > > presale tix will be available until Saturday for $12 at the following > locations: > > Buffalo: Home Of The Hits, World Wide, and Drool > Rochester: Hallucination > Toronto: Numb (this will be a lil more than 12 due to currency exchange, > just as a reminder) > > :Pete.................Crisis909 > Crisis--Help--Line--Productions > http://www.gabber.org/crisis909 -- colin Hot Baud Rally: T/Th Aug 3/5 @The Columbia, Vancouver Canada http://mediacore.cjb.net From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jul 30 03:51:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 385 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Jul 1999 03:51:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 364 invoked from network); 30 Jul 1999 03:51:56 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Jul 1999 03:51:56 -0000 Received: from PoLoJngLsT@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id vFINa16296 (2619) for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:51:15 -0400 (EDT) From: PoLoJngLsT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:51:15 EDT Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) a touch of hard space To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 7/30/99 2:04:57 AM !!!First Boot!!!, daniel@bitmechanic.com writes: << I suppose this is another of the new breed of London drum n bass producers to show up in the last six months, with more dancefloor-oriented darkness in mind. >> i recently picked up techincal itch's latest LP - "Diagnostics" and i instantly fell in love. every track just rips and the tracks aren't "terribly hard to mix".....very dance-floor oriented shit here.... --bobby shin`obi From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jul 30 17:51:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22531 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Jul 1999 17:51:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 22521 invoked from network); 30 Jul 1999 17:51:40 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Jul 1999 17:51:40 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA08239; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:03:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:03:05 -0400 (EDT) From: S K I N N E R To: Dan cc: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) a touch of hard space In-Reply-To: <37A10904.C25FD14A@bitmechanic.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, Dan wrote: }:> drum n bass producers to show up in the last six months, with more }:> dancefloor-oriented darkness in mind. It cerrtainly doesnt compare to }:> the recent release on Deadly Systems, less of a hardcore album and more }:> of a mixed genre of idm breaks, distortion and and agressiveness. Its by }:> Symatic Response, and it kicks some ass. Check this one out. If you want some killer Broken Beat noise check all Six Shooter releases by Somatic Responses. Very evil nasty stuff that will clear dance floors. I atualy got somatic to do a release on Black Monolith. -- ******************************************************************** Robert Skinner skinner{at}skinner[dot]org Black Monolith Records Gabber List Administrator Things To Come Records Darkstep List Administrator -------------------------------------------------------------------- Skinner's Personal Ego http://www.skinner.org Black Monolith Records http://www.blackmonolith.com Things To Come Records http://www.thingstocome.com ******************************************************************** From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Jul 31 17:53:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20136 invoked by uid 6000); 31 Jul 1999 17:53:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 20128 invoked from network); 31 Jul 1999 17:53:29 -0000 Received: from w3.bluegrass.net (root@205.198.88.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 Jul 1999 17:53:29 -0000 Received: from fear-records.com (dial133.isdn1.bluegrass.net [205.198.147.133]) by w3.bluegrass.net (8.8.5/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24086 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:53:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37A336EE.9287D66D@fear-records.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:48:30 -0400 From: Paul Reply-To: Paul@fear-records.com Organization: Fear Records X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Darkstep Mailing List Subject: (DARKSTEP) interesting event Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well, drop bass is doing another even further this year... i finally saw the flyer this past weekend in my friends t-shirt shop... very nice line up... people playing of interest to this list are: DJ Scud, Bad Company, Richard Divine, Bombardier, Bogdan... well... actually there are two interesting stages.... the History of the Future extremity in tent city stage... and the Struggle Inc Rock n Roll Suicide Stage but Bad Company and dj scud... if i could stand drugged up rave kids, i would be there From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Jul 31 18:14:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24811 invoked by uid 6000); 31 Jul 1999 18:14:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 24803 invoked from network); 31 Jul 1999 18:14:07 -0000 Received: from kinderfeld.icenter.net (207.161.142.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 Jul 1999 18:14:07 -0000 Received: from e9r6w6 (ic-pm344.icenter.net [207.161.236.54]) by kinderfeld.icenter.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA02926 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:14:04 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19990731131117.006b0268@mail.icenter.net> X-Sender: vsnares@mail.icenter.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:11:17 -0500 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org From: vsnares Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) interesting event In-Reply-To: <37A336EE.9287D66D@fear-records.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Venetian Snares is playing in the History of the FuturE tent, which may be of some interest to those who like the ruined stuttering at gunpoint side of drum n bass. shameless pluggin' Aaron >well, drop bass is doing another even further this year... i finally saw >the flyer this past weekend in my friends t-shirt shop... very nice line >up... people playing of interest to this list are: DJ Scud, Bad Company, >Richard Divine, Bombardier, Bogdan... well... actually there are two >interesting stages.... the History of the Future extremity in tent city >stage... and the Struggle Inc Rock n Roll Suicide Stage > >but Bad Company and dj scud... if i could stand drugged up rave kids, i >would be there > >