From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 02 02:59:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8689 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Dec 1999 02:58:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 8417 invoked from network); 2 Dec 1999 02:58:12 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 1999 02:58:11 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA15690; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 21:58:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 21:57:44 -0500 (EST) From: Skinner To: DarkStep Mailing List , Gabber List Subject: (DARKSTEP) Horse Penis Pants Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) HPP cd I just picked up is amzing IMHO. Industrial Hardcore Noise and Borken Beat Noise... Not only is it intelligenat, noisey, dark experimental. But the recording quality is a 10. Out of california on possessive-blindblod records. It is something to check out if your into abstract chaos like me. -- +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ -Hardcore-Gabber-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber -Darkstep-DnB-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 02 04:15:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19943 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Dec 1999 04:15:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 19805 invoked from network); 2 Dec 1999 04:15:06 -0000 Received: from law-f244.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.209) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 1999 04:15:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 29619 invoked by uid 0); 2 Dec 1999 04:14:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19991202041439.29618.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.22.182.196 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 01 Dec 1999 20:14:38 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.22.182.196] From: "jason mundo" To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Horse Penis Pants Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 20:14:38 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) abstract chaos. :) I'll have to check this out. although that name hpp is rediculous... but who really cares if chaos is involved. ;) is there any realaudio of this on the web? mundo wikiddrama reks - Dallas >It is something to check out if your into abstract chaos >like me. > >-- >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ >| skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | >| ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ >| Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | >| Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ >-Hardcore-Gabber-List- > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber >-Darkstep-DnB-List- > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 02 04:21:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23403 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Dec 1999 04:21:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 23393 invoked from network); 2 Dec 1999 04:21:08 -0000 Received: from law-f78.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.141) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 1999 04:21:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 72166 invoked by uid 0); 2 Dec 1999 04:20:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19991202042041.72165.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.22.182.196 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 01 Dec 1999 20:20:40 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.22.182.196] From: "jason mundo" To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) Ecu8tor Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 20:20:40 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) ok, need an opinion from an Ecu8tor fan on this. I saw 2 cd's of theirs from 98 and 97 in the store the other day. Are they any good? I only own 1 Ecu8tor 12" so i don't have much to base this on. I think the one I have is "ak-47" or somesuch title..wikid record...I only have about 10 hardcore 12"s...or would Ecu8tor be called breakcore...hell I don't know what I'm talking about. :) Somebody school me here. Mundo wikiddrama Reks-Dallas DnB madness ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 02 05:07:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27524 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Dec 1999 05:07:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 27378 invoked from network); 2 Dec 1999 05:07:15 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 1999 05:07:15 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA16658 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 00:07:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 00:07:06 -0500 (EST) From: Skinner To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Horse Penis Pants In-Reply-To: <19991202041439.29618.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, jason mundo wrote: -> -> -> abstract chaos. :) -> I'll have to check this out. -> although that name hpp is rediculous... -> but who really cares if chaos is involved. ;) -> -> is there any realaudio of this on the web? -> http://home.earthlink.net/~possessv \ take a look :) -- +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ -Hardcore-Gabber-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber -Darkstep-DnB-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 02 09:23:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13721 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Dec 1999 09:23:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 13709 invoked from network); 2 Dec 1999 09:23:47 -0000 Received: from smtp-gateway.com (mailgate@192.41.26.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 1999 09:23:47 -0000 Received: from andythepooh.com (localhost) by smtp-gateway.com (8.8.5) id EAA03843; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 04:23:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38463A30.9FF7A855@andythepooh.com> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 04:21:52 -0500 From: "death?!?! to false metal" Organization: Pillow Biting Sissies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cretins , breaks , darkstep list , hammy Subject: (DARKSTEP) record day this fine week. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) well, the real story here is renegade hardware's "armageddon" lp. it is simply fantastic. you should probably own this, if you dont already. also, capone's "bongo rock" and some amen tune on the flip, which are both fucking stunning. and some remixes of 2 of the quartet's tunes on pivotal. if you liked that first double pack, youll like this. tom From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 02 15:43:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28479 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Dec 1999 15:43:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 28335 invoked from network); 2 Dec 1999 15:43:08 -0000 Received: from ns1.covalent.net (HELO zuul.interlinksystems.com) (208.214.56.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 1999 15:43:08 -0000 Received: from mail1.uunet.ca (root@mail1.uunet.ca [209.167.141.3]) by zuul.interlinksystems.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA81806 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 09:43:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from peterb@abenaki.com) Received: from abenaki.com (cust133.tnt1.dial.mtl1.uunet.ca [209.167.207.133]) by mail1.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <237079-21428>; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:39:42 -0500 Message-ID: <38469525.5C60C8EE@abenaki.com> Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:49:57 -0500 From: ilL=aT*eAze X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Darkstep Subject: (DARKSTEP) [Darkstep] Gettin Paid... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Any of you guys out there ever dabble in commmercial uses of yer music... I have this guy asking me to make beats for his site. Any body have any experience in this sort of thing? How much should I charge him? What about legal shit.... I don't want to find some other site using my shit a couple of months from now without my permission. I thought I'd throw this one out to you guys (and girls) first before i got back to him.... PEace. ill From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 02 17:06:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10671 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Dec 1999 17:06:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 10404 invoked from network); 2 Dec 1999 17:05:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.registeredsite.com) (209.35.159.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 1999 17:05:58 -0000 Received: from mail.marsgraf-x.com (mail.marsgraf-x.com [209.35.31.78]) by mail.registeredsite.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA31062 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 12:08:30 -0500 Received: from k393 [148.100.216.80] by mail.marsgraf-x.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A7E419500FE; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 12:09:56 -0500 Message-ID: <001001bf3cbd$79d5bf40$50d86494@marist.edu> From: "Ron" To: References: <38469525.5C60C8EE@abenaki.com> Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) [Darkstep] Gettin Paid... Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 12:05:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) First you need to find out what this guys budget is. If he has a lot of money then you raise the price of your beats. I do freelance commercial web design and often times if I want the job I have to adjust my price scales. Also if he uses flash to emebed the sound files it will be a little harder for someone to steal than an embeded wav file. You can also copyright your track and then sell him the rights to use it which will legally allow you to control who can properly use your beats. Hope this helps....Peace. Ron MARS GRAF-X http://www.marsgraf-x.com Ron@marsgraf-x.com PRINT:914.485.8165 WEB:914.575.4163 5 YEARS OF PRINT GONE ELECTRIC > Any of you guys out there ever dabble in commmercial uses of yer music... I > have this guy asking me to make beats for his site. Any body have any experience > in this sort of thing? From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 02 18:11:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6436 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Dec 1999 18:11:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 6200 invoked from network); 2 Dec 1999 18:11:11 -0000 Received: from mail2.lig.bellsouth.net (205.152.0.56) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 1999 18:11:11 -0000 Received: from bellsouth.net (host-216-78-85-134.gnv.bellsouth.net [216.78.85.134]) by mail2.lig.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id NAA12679 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 13:11:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3846B709.ABC022BA@bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 13:14:34 -0500 From: supaju@bellsouth.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-bls40 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Horse Penis Pants References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) hey, I deleted the instructions on how to unsub.... could someone please let me know. thanks DaJu Skinner wrote: > On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, jason mundo wrote: > > -> > -> > -> abstract chaos. :) > -> I'll have to check this out. > -> although that name hpp is rediculous... > -> but who really cares if chaos is involved. ;) > -> > -> is there any realaudio of this on the web? > -> > > http://home.earthlink.net/~possessv > \ > take a look :) > > -- > +----------------------------+------------------------------+ > | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | > | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | > +----------------------------+------------------------------+ > | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | > | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | > +----------------------------+------------------------------+ > -Hardcore-Gabber-List- > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber > -Darkstep-DnB-List- > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 02 19:59:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13175 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Dec 1999 19:58:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 12883 invoked from network); 2 Dec 1999 19:57:39 -0000 Received: from www.inx.de (exim@195.21.255.251) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 1999 19:57:39 -0000 Received: from n65-155.berlin.snafu.de ([194.42.65.155]) by www.inx.de with smtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11tcM2-0001Ct-00 for darkstep@hyperreal.org; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 20:57:36 +0100 Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) [Darkstep] Gettin Paid... Date: Thu, 2 Dec 99 20:57:12 +0200 From: !!!?! To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Ron said: >First you need to find out what this guys budget is. If he has a lot of >money then you raise the price of your beats. I do freelance commercial web >design and often times if I want the job I have to adjust my price scales. >Also if he uses flash to emebed the sound files it will be a little harder >for someone to steal than an embeded wav file. You can also copyright your >track and then sell him the rights to use it which will legally allow you to >control who can properly use your beats. Hope this helps....Peace. Ron the general problem with beats is that: we all know how important beats are in music today BUT the BEATS can not be copyrighted!!!!! what can be copyrighted are melodies etc. but NOT beats... (even when we all know that beats are a form of melody...). the same "melody"/arrangement/whatever played with strings (for example) can be copyrighted but not as long as it is a drum sound... no joke. that shows one more how stupid this whole COPYRIGHT SHIT LAW FUCK is... your concrete situation: if you have the possibility to invoice him for your work do so. but at least if you give him beats (loops or so) only you cant give him any rights on it... because _like said_ you cant "save" beats... you can give him rights on tracks, and if you give him a beat only track, all you can "save" is the arrangement of the whole track but not the beats or drum loops. so whenever someone is using your beats then you or whoever has the right on the whole track cant do anything against that... if you have a look on the existing law then nobody can "steal" your beats, cause its not forbidden to use beats - whoever made them. so if you think that you have the new final and best killer beat made you should start thinking to release it somewhere _and is it really that good it will the easiest to find a record label if you dont release it by yourself_, be finally the first with the murder beat, sell half a million records and feel good... but never forget: you can be the creator of a beat, but NOT the owner... From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 02 20:10:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3320 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Dec 1999 20:10:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 3184 invoked from network); 2 Dec 1999 20:10:36 -0000 Received: from smtp-gateway.com (mailgate@192.41.26.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 1999 20:10:35 -0000 Received: from andythepooh.com (localhost) by smtp-gateway.com (8.8.5) id PAA20812; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:10:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3846D1C5.BEF7951F@andythepooh.com> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 15:08:37 -0500 From: "death?!?! to false metal" Organization: Pillow Biting Sissies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) [Darkstep] Gettin Paid... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) i look at it like this: you probably use samples that you havent paid for. even if you dont, if youre on this list, you probably like music that does. WHO FUCKING CARES if someone steals your music? its what this entire genre of music is all about. forget money. just do the art. money is what turns people into assholes about sampling rights and shit like that. i think nothing should be safe. everyone should borrow off of everybody, and no one should give a shit. mad propers to public enemy for really leading the pack on this issue. tom "!!!?!" wrote: > > Ron said: > >First you need to find out what this guys budget is. If he has a lot of > >money then you raise the price of your beats. I do freelance commercial web > >design and often times if I want the job I have to adjust my price scales. > >Also if he uses flash to emebed the sound files it will be a little harder > >for someone to steal than an embeded wav file. You can also copyright your > >track and then sell him the rights to use it which will legally allow you to > >control who can properly use your beats. Hope this helps....Peace. Ron > > the general problem with beats is that: > we all know how important beats are in music today BUT > the BEATS can not be copyrighted!!!!! > what can be copyrighted are melodies etc. but NOT beats... (even when we > all know that beats are a form of melody...). > the same "melody"/arrangement/whatever played with strings (for example) > can be copyrighted but not as long as it is a drum sound... no joke. > > that shows one more how stupid this whole COPYRIGHT SHIT LAW FUCK is... > > your concrete situation: > if you have the possibility to invoice him for your work do so. but at > least if you give him beats (loops or so) only you cant give him any > rights on it... because _like said_ you cant "save" beats... you can give > him rights on tracks, and if you give him a beat only track, all you can > "save" is the arrangement of the whole track but not the beats or drum > loops. so whenever someone is using your beats then you or whoever has > the right on the whole track cant do anything against that... > > if you have a look on the existing law then nobody can "steal" your > beats, cause its not forbidden to use beats - whoever made them. > > so if you think that you have the new final and best killer beat made you > should start thinking to release it somewhere _and is it really that good > it will the easiest to find a record label if you dont release it by > yourself_, be finally the first with the murder beat, sell half a million > records and feel good... but never forget: you can be the creator of a > beat, but NOT the owner... From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 02 20:20:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13586 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Dec 1999 20:20:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 13565 invoked from network); 2 Dec 1999 20:20:18 -0000 Received: from mimis.host4u.net (@209.150.128.36) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 1999 20:20:18 -0000 Received: from hannahodge.com ([63.78.203.73]) by mimis.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19577 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 14:20:14 -0600 Message-ID: <3846D47C.2B197280@hannahodge.com> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 14:20:13 -0600 From: garrick vanburen Organization: HannaHodge X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) [Darkstep] Gettin Paid... References: <3846D1C5.BEF7951F@andythepooh.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) people still gotta eat. Would you rather get paid for spending all day everyday making the music you love or working full time at some lame job that has nothing to do with music. the answer is where licensing and copyright comes in. /g. From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 02 20:26:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21682 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Dec 1999 20:26:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 21406 invoked from network); 2 Dec 1999 20:26:41 -0000 Received: from smtp-gateway.com (mailgate@192.41.26.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 1999 20:26:41 -0000 Received: from andythepooh.com (localhost) by smtp-gateway.com (8.8.5) id PAA26590; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:26:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3846D590.80EFF6C1@andythepooh.com> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 15:24:48 -0500 From: "death?!?! to false metal" Organization: Pillow Biting Sissies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) [Darkstep] Gettin Paid... References: <3846D1C5.BEF7951F@andythepooh.com> <3846D47C.2B197280@hannahodge.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) if you ask me, id rather work some other job and make music because i want to make music. as soon as making music is a job, its not real anymore. if you happen to make some money, thats all well and good. like i think if this guy wants this other guy's track on his page, and he wants to pay him, he should do it. in my opinion, good music reflects what happens in everyday life. without an "everyday life", the music you make starts to become less and less "valid", and more of just an art. my point: live life, and then write music about it. dont make writing music your life. tmo garrick vanburen wrote: > > people still gotta eat. > > Would you rather get paid for spending all day everyday > making the music you love > or > working full time at some lame job that > has nothing to do with music. > > the answer is where licensing and copyright comes in. > > /g. From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 02 23:07:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 815 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Dec 1999 23:06:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 620 invoked from network); 2 Dec 1999 23:06:52 -0000 Received: from law2-f225.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.225) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 1999 23:06:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 7436 invoked by uid 0); 2 Dec 1999 23:05:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19991202230538.7435.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.27.124.45 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 15:05:38 PST X-Originating-IP: [206.27.124.45] From: "Jeff Packard" To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) [Darkstep] Gettin Paid... Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 23:05:38 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) i dont know man...isn't the "american dream" to be employed in something you love and are good at? i mean isn't that what everyone dreams of? i'm sorry i would much rather make money from making records and spinning that flip burgers or work in a warehouse... -jeff >From: "death?!?! to false metal" >Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org >To: darkstep@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) [Darkstep] Gettin Paid... >Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 15:24:48 -0500 > > >if you ask me, id rather work some other job and make music because i >want to make music. as soon as making music is a job, its not real >anymore. if you happen to make some money, thats all well and good. like >i think if this guy wants this other guy's track on his page, and he >wants to pay him, he should do it. > >in my opinion, good music reflects what happens in everyday life. >without an "everyday life", the music you make starts to become less and >less "valid", and more of just an art. my point: live life, and then >write music about it. dont make writing music your life. > >tmo > >garrick vanburen wrote: > > > > people still gotta eat. > > > > Would you rather get paid for spending all day everyday > > making the music you love > > or > > working full time at some lame job that > > has nothing to do with music. > > > > the answer is where licensing and copyright comes in. > > > > /g. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 02 23:57:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23979 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Dec 1999 23:56:58 -0000 Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Received: (qmail 23958 invoked from network); 2 Dec 1999 23:56:56 -0000 Received: from gouda.direct.ca (199.60.229.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Dec 1999 23:56:56 -0000 Received: from mut-53-0375.direct.ca ([216.66.133.75] helo=direct.ca) by gouda.direct.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #6) id 11tg49-0006RY-00; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:55:13 -0800 Message-ID: <38470880.E6947677@direct.ca> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 16:02:08 -0800 From: colin Organization: http://www.mediacore.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: (DARKSTEP) fwd: VERTIGO!GO! -Dec 11, NYC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) WFMU/SMACKMELLON PRESENTS: SATURDAY DECEMBER 11TH VERTIGO!GO! 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FREECLOUD'S MIXING LAB - On-Line Techno Record Store Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:53:38 -0800 Message-ID: <001501bf3dc8$17fa5ae0$78c40018@flrtn1.occa.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Loop-Detect: 1 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) DR. FREECLOUD'S MIXING LAB, Southern California's #1 underground TECHNO record store since 1994 has an all-new, Flash-enabled on-line record store at: http://www.drfreeclouds.com Owned and operated by West Coast DJ's RON D CORE (Hardcore/Gabber) and SIMPLY JEFF (West Coast Funky Breaks), our web site now carries an expanded selection of VINYL RECORDS, COMPACT DISCS, DJ MIX TAPES, VIDEOS, and DJ TOOLS specializing in: AMBIENT TECHNO, BREAKBEATS, DOWNTEMPO, DRUM 'N BASS/JUNGLE, HARDCORE TECHNO, HOUSE, TECHNO, TRANCE, and TURNTABLIST TOOLS. Many of our music products have sound samples and are exclusive to Dr. Freecloud's Mixing Lab. Check us out! http://www.drfreeclouds.com DR. FREECLOUD'S MIXING LAB "Filling your Techno Music prescriptions since 1994" From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Dec 03 08:11:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19063 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Dec 1999 08:11:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 19055 invoked from network); 3 Dec 1999 08:10:57 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Dec 1999 08:10:57 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA30440 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 03:10:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 03:10:43 -0500 (EST) From: Skinner To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) DR. FREECLOUD'S MIXING LAB - On-Line Techno Record Store In-Reply-To: <001501bf3dc8$17fa5ae0$78c40018@flrtn1.occa.home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Dr. Freecloud's Mixing Lab wrote: -> -> DR. FREECLOUD'S MIXING LAB, Southern California's #1 -> underground TECHNO record store since 1994 has an -> all-new, Flash-enabled on-line record store at: -> -> http://www.drfreeclouds.com Ok what is your all opnion on ads? Do you think I should ban ad's from people who are not active and just subsctribe to the list to advertise? or should we keep it open and let people advertise things? Do we allow things that are 100% releated to the list and dis allow things that are just hey we carry everything? What do you all think -- +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ -Hardcore-Gabber-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber -Darkstep-DnB-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Dec 03 08:37:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3039 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Dec 1999 08:37:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 3021 invoked from network); 3 Dec 1999 08:37:14 -0000 Received: from imo-d10.mx.aol.com (HELO imo-d10.mx) (205.188.157.42) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Dec 1999 08:37:14 -0000 Received: from RyanEReid@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id v.0.14fc047f (4418) for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 03:36:44 -0500 (EST) From: RyanEReid@aol.com Message-ID: <0.14fc047f.2578db1b@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 03:36:43 EST Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) DR. FREECLOUD'S MIXING LAB - On-Line Techno Record Store To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) In a message dated 12/3/99 3:11:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, skinner@skinner.org writes: > Do you think I should ban ad's from people who are not > active and just subsctribe to the list to advertise? > or should we keep it open and let people advertise things? > Do we allow things that are 100% releated to the list and > dis allow things that are just hey we carry everything? > What do you all think I say go for it. I just got that same damn email on 3 different lists. I mean, if a semi-active listmember advertises a party or something, that's one thing. Most blatant spammers are obvious enough to draw a line. From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Dec 03 09:39:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16180 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Dec 1999 09:39:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 16154 invoked from network); 3 Dec 1999 09:39:10 -0000 Received: from andythepooh.com (nuggets@209.176.26.206) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Dec 1999 09:39:10 -0000 Received: from [209.114.165.115] by andythepooh.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id AF8C1E58010A; Fri, 03 Dec 1999 04:38:20 -0500 Message-ID: <002001bf3d8c$2ce9d160$73a572d1@.pitt.edu> From: "doctor cutup" To: Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) DR. FREECLOUD'S MIXING LAB - On-Line Techno RecordStore Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 04:44:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) I'd say ban advertizing unless its from darkstep members, for at least mostly on-topic things (events, their own music, whatever) I might want to know about dr freecloud's, but here isn't where i'd look to find out about it. - cutup -----Original Message----- From: Skinner To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Date: Friday, December 03, 1999 12:13 AM Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) DR. FREECLOUD'S MIXING LAB - On-Line Techno RecordStore > >On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Dr. Freecloud's Mixing Lab wrote: > >-> >-> DR. FREECLOUD'S MIXING LAB, Southern California's #1 >-> underground TECHNO record store since 1994 has an >-> all-new, Flash-enabled on-line record store at: >-> >-> http://www.drfreeclouds.com > >Ok what is your all opnion on ads? > >Do you think I should ban ad's from people who are not >active and just subsctribe to the list to advertise? >or should we keep it open and let people advertise things? >Do we allow things that are 100% releated to the list and >dis allow things that are just hey we carry everything? >What do you all think > >-- >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ >| skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | >| ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ >| Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | >| Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ >-Hardcore-Gabber-List- > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber >-Darkstep-DnB-List- > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep > > > From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Dec 03 10:29:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19979 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Dec 1999 10:29:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 19965 invoked from network); 3 Dec 1999 10:29:52 -0000 Received: from www.inx.de (exim@195.21.255.251) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Dec 1999 10:29:52 -0000 Received: from n35-8.berlin.snafu.de ([195.21.35.8]) by www.inx.de with smtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11tpvR-0000HF-00 for darkstep@hyperreal.org; Fri, 03 Dec 1999 11:26:56 +0100 Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) [Darkstep] Gettin Paid... Date: Fri, 3 Dec 99 11:26:40 +0200 From: !!!?! To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) tom wrote: >i look at it like this: you probably use samples that you havent paid >for. even if you dont, if youre on this list, you probably like music >that does. WHO FUCKING CARES if someone steals your music? its what this >entire genre of music is all about. forget money. just do the art. money >is what turns people into assholes about sampling rights and shit like >that. i think nothing should be safe. everyone should borrow off of >everybody, and no one should give a shit. mad propers to public enemy >for really leading the pack on this issue. >tom not sure if that reply was for me... if so dont understand me wrong. i agree 100% with you. WHO FUCKING CARES if someone steals your and my music. I would do the same. From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Dec 03 12:04:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24761 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Dec 1999 12:04:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 24600 invoked from network); 3 Dec 1999 12:04:40 -0000 Received: from ns1.covalent.net (HELO zuul.interlinksystems.com) (208.214.56.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Dec 1999 12:04:40 -0000 Received: from smtp-gateway.com (mailgate@smtp-gateway.com [192.41.26.16] (may be forged)) by zuul.interlinksystems.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA46506 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 04:34:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from death@andythepooh.com) Received: from andythepooh.com (localhost) by smtp-gateway.com (8.8.5) id FAA25248; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 05:33:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38479C0A.6CB75125@andythepooh.com> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 05:31:38 -0500 From: "death?!?! to false metal" Organization: Pillow Biting Sissies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) [Darkstep] Gettin Paid... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) then we agree! excellent. now, everybody go use some illegal samples in the name of fucking the copyright laws cause theyre dumb. tom "!!!?!" wrote: > > not sure if that reply was for me... if so dont understand me wrong. > i agree 100% with you. WHO FUCKING CARES if someone steals your and my > music. I would do the same. From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Dec 03 16:07:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19645 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Dec 1999 16:07:08 -0000 Date: 3 Dec 1999 16:07:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 19514 invoked from network); 3 Dec 1999 16:07:05 -0000 Received: from law2-f118.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.118) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Dec 1999 16:07:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 27932 invoked by uid 0); 3 Dec 1999 16:06:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19991203160638.27931.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.8.1.21 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 03 Dec 1999 08:06:38 PST X-Originating-IP: [207.8.1.21] From: "seth walker" To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 10:06:38 CST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Does anyone know if pure bass, tone def or any of the other old school labels still exists? Also, can anyone suggest any labels for me to check out if I like pyraplastic, chrome, dhr, etc. Seth ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Dec 03 16:17:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28576 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Dec 1999 16:17:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 28314 invoked from network); 3 Dec 1999 16:17:28 -0000 Received: from web2904.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.47) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Dec 1999 16:17:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 8188 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Dec 1999 16:17:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19991203161727.8187.qmail@web2904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.214.147.2] by web2904.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 03 Dec 1999 08:17:27 PST Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:17:27 -0800 (PST) From: rando Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) [Darkstep] Gettin Paid... To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) I gotta agree with death..... often times (not always) people who live off music are limiting themselves by limiting their experience. Moreover, I have other things in my life I want to build and I will draw from those experiences for inspiration. --- Jeff Packard wrote: > > > i dont know man...isn't the "american dream" to be employed in > something you > love and are good at? i mean isn't that what everyone dreams of? i'm > sorry i > would much rather make money from making records and spinning that > flip > burgers or work in a warehouse... > > -jeff > > >From: "death?!?! to false metal" > >Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org > >To: darkstep@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) [Darkstep] Gettin Paid... > >Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 15:24:48 -0500 > > > > > >if you ask me, id rather work some other job and make music because > i > >want to make music. as soon as making music is a job, its not real > >anymore. if you happen to make some money, thats all well and good. > like > >i think if this guy wants this other guy's track on his page, and he > >wants to pay him, he should do it. > > > >in my opinion, good music reflects what happens in everyday life. > >without an "everyday life", the music you make starts to become less > and > >less "valid", and more of just an art. my point: live life, and then > >write music about it. dont make writing music your life. > > > >tmo > > > >garrick vanburen wrote: > > > > > > people still gotta eat. > > > > > > Would you rather get paid for spending all day everyday > > > making the music you love > > > or > > > working full time at some lame job that > > > has nothing to do with music. > > > > > > the answer is where licensing and copyright comes in. > > > > > > /g. > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ===== randy j shepherd AKA tha rando <---AIM screen name the|black|lodge http://jungle.ffwd.com/advance <-------------------EGO.SITES http://www.transcasts.com *live sets* http://members.tripod.com/~endlesspage *band* http://www.skinny.com/music/gallery/drumbass/elements *pic* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Dec 03 16:54:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1470 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Dec 1999 16:54:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 1448 invoked from network); 3 Dec 1999 16:54:12 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Dec 1999 16:54:12 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA33959 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:54:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:53:59 -0500 (EST) From: Skinner To: DarkStep Mailing List Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 10:06:38 CST In-Reply-To: <19991203160638.27931.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) On 3 Dec 1999, seth walker wrote: -> Does anyone know if pure bass, tone def or any of the -> other old school labels still exists? Also, can anyone -> suggest any labels for me to check out if I like -> pyraplastic, chrome, dhr, etc. Seth Getto Safari: Some of the later ones are good. Chris Debabalon, Panacea and Problem child Machate: Only one release domestic in the US, It was of pancea. But it is dope. Gyration: Of courese :) Praxis Records: Praxis jumps back and forth from Hardcore to Breaks but each release is great.. I myself don't ride labels often but Praxis is one where I don't need to ever listen to it and just buy. Kool.Pop: DJ Scud has a Bunch of Releases need I say more? Last but not least. Ambush: The frist few are hard to get. But this label is one where you should try and get anything you can, some of the nasties, evil dark music that will be blamed for someones suicide breaks :). Thus it gets skinner's approvel :) Think my choice in music is why girls are scared of me? ;-p -- +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ -Hardcore-Gabber-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber -Darkstep-DnB-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Dec 03 19:39:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24832 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Dec 1999 19:39:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 24775 invoked from network); 3 Dec 1999 19:39:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO exchange.cecnye) (216.44.71.204) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Dec 1999 19:39:38 -0000 Received: by EXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:38:24 -0500 Message-ID: <32D3803A0196D31191F900A0C9D43F9A01F478@EXCHANGE> From: TB 303 To: "'darkstep@hyperreal.org'" Subject: RE: (DARKSTEP) DR. FREECLOUD'S MIXING LAB - On-Line Techno Record Store Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:38:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) My opinion is as follows, allow ad's as long as they are related to this list, otherwise ban them..................... -----Original Message----- From: Skinner [mailto:skinner@skinner.org] Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 3:11 AM To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) DR. FREECLOUD'S MIXING LAB - On-Line Techno Record Store On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Dr. Freecloud's Mixing Lab wrote: -> -> DR. FREECLOUD'S MIXING LAB, Southern California's #1 -> underground TECHNO record store since 1994 has an -> all-new, Flash-enabled on-line record store at: -> -> http://www.drfreeclouds.com Ok what is your all opnion on ads? Do you think I should ban ad's from people who are not active and just subsctribe to the list to advertise? or should we keep it open and let people advertise things? Do we allow things that are 100% releated to the list and dis allow things that are just hey we carry everything? What do you all think -- +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ -Hardcore-Gabber-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber -Darkstep-DnB-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Dec 03 19:48:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7381 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Dec 1999 19:48:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 7168 invoked from network); 3 Dec 1999 19:48:41 -0000 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.38) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Dec 1999 19:48:41 -0000 Received: from RMurphy242@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id v.0.797e0715 (6110) for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:48:06 -0500 (EST) From: RMurphy242@aol.com Message-ID: <0.797e0715.25797876@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:48:06 EST Subject: RE: (DARKSTEP) DR. FREECLOUD'S MIXING LAB - On-Line Techno Record Store To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) it's music related; so as long as it doesn't get excessive i don't see anything wrong with these kinds of posts. ryan From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Dec 04 00:23:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25566 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Dec 1999 00:23:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 25551 invoked from network); 4 Dec 1999 00:23:11 -0000 Received: from law2-f15.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Dec 1999 00:23:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 25259 invoked by uid 0); 4 Dec 1999 00:22:45 -0000 Message-ID: <19991204002245.25258.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.8.1.21 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 03 Dec 1999 16:22:44 PST X-Originating-IP: [207.8.1.21] From: "seth walker" To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 10:06:38 CST Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 18:22:44 CST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Machate is the only label I haven't bought anything from your list so atleast I found out about something. I know there has to be alot more german break labels, because when I saw Panacea he spun alot of good stuff that I know was'nt chrome or the others I have been buying. I have recently ordered some Don Q, but have not received it yet. I assume that Don Q is dark hard stuff. Seth ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Dec 04 01:43:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27798 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Dec 1999 01:43:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 27778 invoked from network); 4 Dec 1999 01:43:51 -0000 Received: from mail.iweb.net.au (HELO mail2.iweb.net.au) (210.8.138.51) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Dec 1999 01:43:51 -0000 Received: from blackcube (ppp41.adl.iweb.net.au [202.12.71.105]) by mail2.iweb.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA13129 for ; Sat, 4 Dec 1999 12:11:56 +1030 Message-ID: <005e01bf3df9$8013de40$69470cca@blackcube> From: "ooOOOH" To: Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 10:06:38 CST Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 12:17:18 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) > >Machate is the only label I haven't bought anything from your list so what list??? alwayts interested in finfding new labels....... >atleast I found out about something. I know there has to be alot more german >break labels, because when I saw Panacea he spun alot of good stuff that I >know was'nt chrome or the others I have been buying. I have recently ordered >some Don Q, but have not received it yet. I assume that Don Q is dark hard >stuff. >Seth > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Dec 04 21:24:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2950 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Dec 1999 21:24:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 2922 invoked from network); 4 Dec 1999 21:24:30 -0000 Received: from rabacal.direct.ca (199.60.229.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Dec 1999 21:24:30 -0000 Received: from mut-53-0409.direct.ca ([216.66.133.105] helo=direct.ca) by rabacal.direct.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #7) id 11uMfJ-0007Go-00; Sat, 4 Dec 1999 13:24:28 -0800 Message-ID: <38498828.7A1C3399@direct.ca> Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 13:31:20 -0800 From: colin Organization: http://www.mediacore.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hahdcohz , darkstep list Subject: (DARKSTEP) Scud -Dec 10, Minneapolis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) eh.. I got this off http://c8.com/ambush > Scud will be playing in Minneapolis on the 10th Dec. with Jace Kraus (History of The FuturE) & Co. (see http://i.am/hotf) -- colin http://www.mediacore.org/~clone http://mp3.com/sonicatharsis np: Dec 5, Vancouver: Musikill (opening for Hospital & Smuk Noise) From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Dec 05 08:22:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21285 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Dec 1999 08:22:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 21277 invoked from network); 5 Dec 1999 08:22:29 -0000 Received: from f66.law4.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.149.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Dec 1999 08:22:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 83055 invoked by uid 0); 5 Dec 1999 08:22:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19991205082202.83054.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.188.196.53 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 05 Dec 1999 00:22:02 PST X-Originating-IP: [205.188.196.53] From: "the inimitable ..." To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) [Darkstep] Gettin Paid... Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 03:22:02 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) > >i dont know man...isn't the "american dream" to be employed in something >you >love and are good at? i mean isn't that what everyone dreams of? i'm sorry >i >would much rather make money from making records and spinning that flip >burgers or work in a warehouse... > >-jeff > >>>>>AMEN, BROTHA!!!! Preach on wit your bad self! To para-pseudo-quote Juan >>>>>Atkins : I make music... that's all I do. If I have a job, and I make >>>>>it to work, I am set: I eat, rent's paid, etc. Everything else >>>>>(including your art) is secondary. NO, this IS what I do. "" peace and >>>>>eternal, infinite, mind-disrupting beatz y'all! + FRIED NEURONZ - "You will be assimilated...resistance is futile" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Dec 05 21:29:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6218 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Dec 1999 21:29:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 5989 invoked from network); 5 Dec 1999 21:29:34 -0000 Received: from rabacal.direct.ca (199.60.229.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Dec 1999 21:29:34 -0000 Received: from mut-53-0273.direct.ca ([216.66.132.169] helo=direct.ca) by rabacal.direct.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #7) id 11ujDi-0006JR-00 for darkstep@hyperreal.org; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 13:29:26 -0800 Message-ID: <384ADAD0.9B2118F5@direct.ca> Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 13:36:16 -0800 From: colin Organization: http://www.mediacore.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep list Subject: (DARKSTEP) fwd: :UNDERGROUND SOUNDS - MPLS USA: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) jk wrote: > > :History of the futurE & Wardogs present: > > ====UNDERGROUND SOUNDS==== > > friday, december 10, 6661 > minneapolis, minnesota, usa > 10 pm * $10 > info at 612.613.7803 & hotf@tcinternet.net > > =DJ SCUD= > (UK: ambush/koolpop/etc.) > > =CHRISTOPH DE BABALON= > (GERMANY: cfet/dhr/zhark/etc.) > > =BOMBARDIER= > (USA: low res/vinyl com/hangars liquides/etc.) > > =LOST IN TRANSLATION= > (USA: HotF/Meme/Diskono/Trash/etc.) > > =WARDOGS= > (USA: nasty breaks) > > =DJ STEP= > (USA: techstep/d&b) > > =MR. REED= > (USA) > > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > =-=-= History of the futurE =-=-= > =- pob 18422 mpls mn 55418 usa -= > =-=-=- http://c8.com/hotf -=-=-= > =-=-=- hotf@tcinternet.net -=-=-= > =-=-=- fax 1.520.222.5040 -=-=-= > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- colin http://www.mediacore.org/~clone http://mp3.com/sonicatharsis np: Dec 5, Vancouver: Musikill (opening for Hospital & Smuk Noise) From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 06 01:03:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1289 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Dec 1999 01:03:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 1275 invoked from network); 6 Dec 1999 01:03:47 -0000 Received: from law2-f182.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.182) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Dec 1999 01:03:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 52072 invoked by uid 0); 6 Dec 1999 01:03:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19991206010320.52071.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.27.124.146 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 05 Dec 1999 17:03:20 PST X-Originating-IP: [206.27.124.146] From: "Jeff Packard" To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) [Darkstep] Gettin Paid... Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 01:03:20 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) not trying to sound like some sorta cocky dj or anything...just saying that its not so bad to be happy sometimes. work sucks...if i can do what inspires me and actually live off of it...DOPE. if not, i'm still gunna be spinning records. god knows i dont make enough playing out to pay all my bills. but if i did i wouldn't turn it away. i love drum and bass. its my heart, body, mind, and soul. its the fuel to my fire... -jeff >From: "the inimitable ..." >Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org >To: darkstep@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) [Darkstep] Gettin Paid... >Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 03:22:02 EST > > > > >> >>i dont know man...isn't the "american dream" to be employed in something >>you >>love and are good at? i mean isn't that what everyone dreams of? i'm sorry >>i >>would much rather make money from making records and spinning that flip >>burgers or work in a warehouse... >> >>-jeff >> >>>>>>AMEN, BROTHA!!!! Preach on wit your bad self! To para-pseudo-quote >>>>>>Juan >>>>>>Atkins : I make music... that's all I do. If I have a job, and I make >>>>>>it to work, I am set: I eat, rent's paid, etc. Everything else >>>>>>(including your art) is secondary. NO, this IS what I do. "" peace and >>>>>>eternal, infinite, mind-disrupting beatz y'all! > > >+ FRIED NEURONZ - > >"You will be assimilated...resistance is futile" > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 06 02:23:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2803 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Dec 1999 02:23:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 2795 invoked from network); 6 Dec 1999 02:23:42 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Dec 1999 02:23:42 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA65868 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 21:23:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 21:22:07 -0500 (EST) From: Skinner To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) [Darkstep] Gettin Paid... In-Reply-To: <19991206010320.52071.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Jeff Packard wrote: -> not trying to sound like some sorta cocky dj or -> anything...just saying that its not so bad to be happy -> sometimes. work sucks...if i can do what inspires me -> and actually live off of it...DOPE. if not, i'm still -> gunna be spinning records. god knows i dont make -> enough playing out to pay all my bills. but if i did i -> wouldn't turn it away. i love drum and bass. its my -> heart, body, mind, and soul. its the fuel to my -> fire... Here is my take on this whole thing. There is nothing wrong with making money on what you enjoy doing. As long as it stay at the level of something you enjoy . When it becomes a chore and or the point where you "must release now to pay the bills" or you change your style completly for one reason and that is $. That is when the heart and soul is gone and the person has "sold out" but if your doing what you have always liked and you love the music you make, and on top of this you get paid for it (with out raping the kids who buy the music) there is nothing wrong with that at all. Becuse the only differnce between the "pro" artist and the kid in his bedroom is the pay check, the music is still the same..... -- +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ -Hardcore-Gabber-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber -Darkstep-DnB-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 06 17:06:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22290 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Dec 1999 17:06:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 22245 invoked from network); 6 Dec 1999 17:06:07 -0000 Received: from smtp-outgoing.amazon.com (209.191.164.153) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Dec 1999 17:06:07 -0000 Received: from mail-proxy-1.amazon.com (mail-proxy-1.amazon.com [10.16.42.201]) by smtp-outgoing.amazon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA67C5E for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 09:05:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-proxy-1.amazon.com id JAA04902; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 09:05:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <384BECE4.15FB@amazon.com> Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 09:05:40 -0800 From: Ephraim Alexander Organization: Amazon.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) Some Music for your boredom References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Hey all, me and cav recorded an hour of our friday night mix session. Take a listen while your wasting your company's money;) http://cavanaug.home.mindspring/ec.ram From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 06 17:22:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9672 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Dec 1999 17:22:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 9660 invoked from network); 6 Dec 1999 17:22:54 -0000 Received: from smtp-outgoing.amazon.com (209.191.164.153) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Dec 1999 17:22:54 -0000 Received: from mail-proxy-1.amazon.com (mail-proxy-1.amazon.com [10.16.42.201]) by smtp-outgoing.amazon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640CA86B for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 09:22:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-proxy-1.amazon.com id JAA16359; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 09:22:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <384BF0D4.59E2@amazon.com> Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 09:22:28 -0800 From: Ephraim Alexander Organization: Amazon.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Some Music for your boredom References: <384BECE4.15FB@amazon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) woops..revision.. http://cavanaug.home.mindspring.com/ec.ram From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 06 20:58:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16214 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Dec 1999 20:58:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 15878 invoked from network); 6 Dec 1999 20:57:29 -0000 Received: from ha1.rdc2.occa.home.com (HELO mail.rdc2.occa.home.com) (imail@24.2.8.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Dec 1999 20:57:28 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.1.141.103]) by mail.rdc2.occa.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19991206205724.IXXI27614.mail.rdc2.occa.home.com@home.com> for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 12:57:24 -0800 Message-ID: <384C1633.D465FB91@home.com> Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 13:02:22 -0700 From: Beau Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 C-AtHome0405(Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Some Music for your boredom References: <384BECE4.15FB@amazon.com> <384BF0D4.59E2@amazon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) hey do you know where any good mp3's are? techstep, darkstep jungle drum n bass any of those. besides mp3.com. just wondering. I love hearing stuff that people have put on web want to put it on record. beaubotical Ephraim Alexander wrote: > > woops..revision.. > > http://cavanaug.home.mindspring.com/ec.ram From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 06 21:16:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5298 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Dec 1999 21:15:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 4957 invoked from network); 6 Dec 1999 21:15:18 -0000 Received: from f329.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.108) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Dec 1999 21:15:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 50032 invoked by uid 0); 6 Dec 1999 21:14:49 -0000 Message-ID: <19991206211449.50031.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.92.197.38 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 06 Dec 1999 13:14:49 PST X-Originating-IP: [195.92.197.38] From: "edward heard" To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Some Music for your boredom Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 13:14:49 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) yes check out djHOOKUPS.com my mix tape is on there as are other bros of the b-line. Check it out and let me know the coo respect dj talldred >From: Beau >Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org >To: darkstep@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Some Music for your boredom >Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 13:02:22 -0700 > > >hey do you know where any good mp3's are? techstep, darkstep jungle >drum n bass any of those. besides mp3.com. >just wondering. I love hearing stuff that people have put on web want >to put it on record. >beaubotical > >Ephraim Alexander wrote: > > > > woops..revision.. > > > > http://cavanaug.home.mindspring.com/ec.ram ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 06 21:30:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19340 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Dec 1999 21:30:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 19316 invoked from network); 6 Dec 1999 21:30:41 -0000 Received: from ha1.rdc2.occa.home.com (HELO mail.rdc2.occa.home.com) (imail@24.2.8.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Dec 1999 21:30:41 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.1.141.103]) by mail.rdc2.occa.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19991206213039.JMZQ27614.mail.rdc2.occa.home.com@home.com> for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 13:30:39 -0800 Message-ID: <384C1DFE.733FC3E7@home.com> Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 13:35:38 -0700 From: Beau Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 C-AtHome0405(Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Some Music for your boredom References: <19991206211449.50031.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) yeah that site is cool, all they have are the real player files, any sites like this you know that have mp3's? edward heard wrote: > > yes check out > djHOOKUPS.com > my mix tape is on there as are other bros of the b-line. > Check it out and let me know the coo > respect > dj talldred > > >From: Beau > >Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org > >To: darkstep@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Some Music for your boredom > >Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 13:02:22 -0700 > > > > > >hey do you know where any good mp3's are? techstep, darkstep jungle > >drum n bass any of those. besides mp3.com. > >just wondering. I love hearing stuff that people have put on web want > >to put it on record. > >beaubotical > > > >Ephraim Alexander wrote: > > > > > > woops..revision.. > > > > > > http://cavanaug.home.mindspring.com/ec.ram > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Dec 08 23:37:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24298 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Dec 1999 23:37:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 23971 invoked from network); 8 Dec 1999 23:37:20 -0000 Received: from law2-f57.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.57) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Dec 1999 23:37:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 40693 invoked by uid 0); 8 Dec 1999 23:36:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19991208233652.40692.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.27.124.116 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 08 Dec 1999 15:36:52 PST X-Originating-IP: [206.27.124.116] From: "Jeff Packard" To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) [Darkstep] Gettin Paid... Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 23:36:52 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) PREACH ON MAH BRUTHA!! later -jeff >From: Skinner >Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org >To: darkstep@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) [Darkstep] Gettin Paid... >Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 21:22:07 -0500 (EST) > > Skinner's werds o' wizdum... >Here is my take on this whole thing. >There is nothing wrong with making money on what you enjoy >doing. As long as it stay at the level of something you >enjoy . When it becomes a chore and or the point where you >"must release now to pay the bills" or you change your style >completly for one reason and that is $. That is when the >heart and soul is gone and the person has "sold out" but if >your doing what you have always liked and you love the music >you make, and on top of this you get paid for it (with out >raping the kids who buy the music) there is nothing wrong >with that at all. Becuse the only differnce between the >"pro" artist and the kid in his bedroom is the pay check, >the music is still the same..... > > > >-- >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ >| skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | >| ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ >| Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | >| Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ >-Hardcore-Gabber-List- > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber >-Darkstep-DnB-List- > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 09 10:50:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21597 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Dec 1999 10:50:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 21589 invoked from network); 9 Dec 1999 10:50:24 -0000 Received: from law-f112.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.175) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Dec 1999 10:50:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 44777 invoked by uid 0); 9 Dec 1999 10:49:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19991209104956.44776.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.22.201.66 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 09 Dec 1999 02:49:55 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.22.201.66] From: "jason mundo" To: txraves@io.com, darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) Fwd: Live Pa's rippin it up Thursday 9th! Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 02:49:55 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) >From: don >To: txraves@onramp.net, draves@egroups.com >Subject: Live Pa's rippin it up Thursday 9th! >Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 12:54:36 -0600 > >This Thursday December 9th in Dallas at the Curtain Club is the Sub-Tronic >Theatre! > >Featured live PAs: >Euphorius(CD Release)--12:30am >Ropelab--11:15 pm >Mundo(12-inch release)--10pm >Special Guest DJ ION(Germany) spinning trance between sets. --9pm > >Astralwerks may be there giving away free vinyl and Cds. > >The Curtain Club is located at 2800 Main st. in Deep Ellum. >17+up, $5 over 21, $7 under > >Sub-Tronic Trivia: >In case you were wondering what we were thinking when we named this >showcase..... >Sub - alludes to the myriad of low frequency sounds you will be hearing. >Tronic - Electronic, duh. >Theatre- encompases the multi-media and visual aspects of the showcase. > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 09 15:20:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2073 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Dec 1999 15:20:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 2045 invoked from network); 9 Dec 1999 15:20:52 -0000 Received: from web2903.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.46) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Dec 1999 15:20:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 5440 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Dec 1999 15:20:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19991209152051.5439.qmail@web2903.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.214.147.2] by web2903.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 09 Dec 1999 07:20:51 PST Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 07:20:51 -0800 (PST) From: rando Subject: (DARKSTEP) E*L*E*M*E*N*T*S @ The Phoenix Landing To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) I am not sure if I sent this to this list before...... so here it goes again..... sorry if this is a repeat ----------------------------------------------------------------- Elements * WeEklY dRuM and BaSs FuSioN This Thursday, December 9th:: DJ Dot [listen.to/onpoint, The Focus, BostonTown] Come check out the sounds of The Dot DJ as she blows you away with excellent selection and tight mixing. 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Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 09 19:54:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19630 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Dec 1999 19:54:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 19403 invoked from network); 9 Dec 1999 19:54:44 -0000 Received: from gate.ea.com (HELO ea.com) (159.153.89.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Dec 1999 19:54:44 -0000 Received: from iloyd ([159.153.89.50]) by ea.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA14947; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 11:47:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19991209115453.0353f220@shell13.ba.best.com> X-Sender: poop@shell13.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 11:54:53 -0800 To: sf-jungle , break-a-beat@topica.com, darkstep@hyperreal.org From: i a n l o y d Subject: (DARKSTEP) BSP: Intersekt Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) [ note: Sorry if you've seen this. my email has been acting strange this week. i wanted to make sure this gets out ] Friday, December 10, 1999. Intersekt.1 Rico's @ 78 Minna, San Francisco ID Required Drum&Bass 9:00 - 10:00 Maytag (2Shoes/KSCU) 10:00 - 11:00 Red 5 (Kinetiks) 11:00 - 12:00 Kaydub, Jonte, and Griff - B2B (Jungle Life Crew/KZSU) 12:00 - 1:00 Juju (Phunckateck/Phuncktion/F-111 Recordings) 1:00 - 2:00 Controlled Substance (Thermal Recordings) Hip-Hop 9:00 - 10:00 DJ Alex 10:00 - 11:00 DJ Debt (Kinetiks) 11:00 - 12:00 DJ Formula-One (KSJS, San Jose) 12:00 - 1:00 Able (Below the Surface) 1:00 - 2:00 Ill Bill (Circus DJ's) c o n t r o l l e d . s u b s t a n c e http://www.thermalrecordings.com http://www.nougat.com ========[ end.transmission ]========= From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Dec 11 01:28:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14141 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Dec 1999 01:28:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 14015 invoked from network); 11 Dec 1999 01:28:12 -0000 Received: from edam.direct.ca (@199.60.229.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Dec 1999 01:28:12 -0000 Received: from mut-53-0405.direct.ca ([216.66.133.101] helo=direct.ca) by edam.direct.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #21) id 11wbKQ-0001eg-00; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 17:28:07 -0800 Message-ID: <3851AA4C.FE15037F@direct.ca> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 17:35:08 -0800 From: colin Organization: Mediacore X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hahdcohz , darkstep list Subject: (DARKSTEP) Christoph de Babalon & Bombardier this w/e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) > Friday Dec. 10, 1999 -- Minneapolis: DJ Scud, Christoph de Babalon, Bombardier, Lost In > Translation, Wardogs {HaDJi, PUSHone, SharpLucky} , DJ Step & Mr. Reed. ya, youz already know about tonight > Saturday Dec. 11, 1999 -- Lansing, MI --Team HardCore Presents: [hahaha...there's candy ravah Team Hardcore here in BC] A New Era-- Sniper vs. > Mystical Influence (3-hour tag team set.. both from toronto and on vinyl syndicate), > Christoph de Babalon (no explanation needed!), Bombardier (gabber [hmm..not really] - vinyl comm, lowres, > hangars liquides), Betty Bombshell (HWF), Richie K., The Absent-Minded Professor (Ian > Ezpanoza... very cool shit), Jay (old skool jump-up), DJ Drip (amazing ragga from toronto), > Mark B (jungle), DJ kiNEtEC (don't you love those annoying capitalizations, that must be > absolutely correct or the artist will kill you??), plus a ton more... the after party should > be amazing... info lines: 313.310.8164 and 734.332.9099 .... Location available 24 hrs in > advance on info lines.. presale available @ spin cycle, wave transmissions and FBC in > Lansing.. > Monday Dec. 13, 1999 -- Cleveland -- speak in tongues -- John C will be djing, he's either > going to do a full opening set or kolongibs coming in from New Hampshire. The show's at speak > in tongues and will start around 10. > > club show in detroit TBA... -- colin http://www.mediacore.org/~clone http://mp3.com/sonicatharsis np: From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 13 19:27:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21575 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Dec 1999 19:27:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 21480 invoked from network); 13 Dec 1999 19:27:14 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Dec 1999 19:27:14 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA41377 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 14:27:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 14:27:28 -0500 (EST) From: Skinner To: DarkStep Mailing List Subject: (DARKSTEP) List Status Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) I would like to find out from the list what your opnions have been of it over the list year, and how I can continue to offer a nice community for you all. A few things I have planed for the new year is inviting many of the borkenbeat people onto the list. Since many of us here and much of the music out there is cossing over with the industrial brokenbeat and darkstep these days. Hell you can change your name and market it differnly and people would clame it as either or. So please tell me what you feel about the list. Any new idea's I can use maybe make the website useful for something :). -- +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ -Hardcore-Gabber-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber -Darkstep-DnB-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 13 19:52:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22435 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Dec 1999 19:52:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 22400 invoked from network); 13 Dec 1999 19:52:08 -0000 Received: from web2903.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.46) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Dec 1999 19:52:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 3683 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Dec 1999 19:52:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19991213195208.3682.qmail@web2903.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.214.147.2] by web2903.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 11:52:08 PST Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 11:52:08 -0800 (PST) From: rando Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) IMHO Don't invite people from some other list, one of the reasons this list is fantastic is that it is low-volume, mature and covers a variety of Drum and Bass. This is the only DnB list I have ever been on with such a high calibur of talent, intelligence and respect. Advertising a public invitation to a whole list opens the possibility, for that one person it takes, to bring the whole community down to the level of 16 year olds. Also, I would be very disheartened to see a predominance of Breakcore and "Darkstep" in discussion, as I think we have a great balance of variety in this list. I consider myself well-educated about the history and progress of the jungle/DnB genre and STILL learn new things from the Darkstep contributors about more industrial related styles(and I hope I tell people a few things they didn't know). Not to mention the fact that I feel comfortable e-mailing everyone one the list privatley with questions and requests as I know they will recognize my name sinc the list is fairly small. So there is my 2cents. In the name of variety, I have pasted in an interview I did with Blame from Good Looking for a Weekly Music Publication (The Weekly Dig)---> ______________________________________________________________________ Minutes before an amazing set to a capacity crowd at the Lava Bar two wednesdays ago,I had the opportunity to sit down with Conrad Schafe AKA Blame to discuss his legendary career in the world of Drum and Bass. Sitting poolside in the Kenmore Square Howard Johnsons in which the club is located, I picked his brain for a bit while Al Fougy from Phuturistic Bluez warmed up the crowd in the next room….. R: I just wanted to begin by pointing out the fact that you have producing almost a decade now. From you first track on Chill Records, “Death Row” until now, what is the common thread in the music you create and play? B: It’s quite hard to say what the common thread is between very early music and what I’m doing now because the sound was so different, but I would say that there’s always been something in me that wants to make music different. Every time I get in a studio, I want to think, “what hasn’t been done before?”. And when I did Death Row, it was, speed break-beats, and putting these weird bass sounds over the top. And lots of sound effects from house tracks kicking about at the moment. So, when that blew up, people were like, “what are these guys doing speeding break-beats up?”, so that was all new. And as it kind of develops through time, I’ve gotten involved with trying to do things like time signatures. Kind of trying to bring in more like jazz influences in and going into kind of making beats sound like they are coming out with some kind of machine and transport mechanism and things like that. So something in me wants to be different all the time, I feel it’s something that I kind of owe to the scene since I’ve been around so long that you know we’ve got to keep moving the boundaries and keep doing this thing. Basically taking it so fast that I think the kind of developing and progressing of this music, is what drives me and my music. I think it’s what fuels the fire to carry the scene on. R: Do you find inspiration for your music in other genre’s of music, perhaps even what is going on in Drum and Bass, or do find that life events motivate you to create the music that you do? B: Ahh, not really, I think the whole point of what I do and you know, what I’m trying to do with my label, and the guys around me, is we’re trying to kind of break boundaries ourselves. So if you’re listening to music and you’re thinking, “Oh, they’ve done that why don’t we try and do that”, and you’ll be inspired by it, you’re not really taking things a step further you’re just kind of duplicating in a way what’s happening. What inspires me really, is kind of life in general, you know. I might go on a DJ tour to say Japan, or somewhere and you play your music, and it goes down really well and you think. “Wow, I just want to get back to the studio and do more shit to kind of rattle the people”. So that’s always inspiring for me. Um, things like films, new films that come out like Star Wars and things, you watch these things and the technology, how people done that and that inspires you. You want to try and break boundaries. Life inspires me really. R: At one point, I believe it was in 1994, you made the decision to move from Moving Shadow records, perhaps the most successful Drum and Bass label ever, to Good Looking records. Why? B: I feel that when you’ve been in a certain job for an amount of time… I was with Moving Shadow for five years. I kind of built from nothing, to you know what I hoped is quite a good level with Moving Shadow, and I feel Moving Shadow built from nothing to what was a good level with me. So it was kind of a mutual thing there. But after five years, I felt like I needed a change. I felt like my music was definitely carving itself in more of a kind of diverse, experimental kind of way. And I thought that I needed a change, and Good Looking records, LTJ Bukem was like “we would love to just back new music, support what you’re doing.” “We really want to try to push what you are doing.” So it was more of, “yeah cool I needed a change. You guys have shown a lot of interest in what I’m doing.” At the time, Good Looking was the best drum and bass label in the world for me to sign on. They were the only label that understood what I did. You know, and that to me is very important. They understood entirely what I was about. And I decided to just give it a shot with a twelve-inch. I wasn’t signed to Moving Shadow exclusively or anything. It was all kind of like “Yeah, I’ll give you some tracks. You’ll put them out, cool.” One contract, one twelve-inch. And so, it was just a chance for me to just kind of get a new vehicle for my music and since that first single I haven’t looked back. You know doing it full time, myself and Bukem have been just kind of touring all over the world. So it’s just kind of a unit now. R: A unit? Do you feel that Good Looking is your permanent home? Are you all that in-sync musically? We’re all in-sync musically, definitely, you might hear one of my records and one of Bukems’ records and think they’re completely different. But, the fact is we’re kind of working we’ve got a goal we’ve got an angle on what we’re doing. You know, so it’s kind of the visions that the both of us what we want to do. We want to take emotional, not emotional but drum and bass with a kind of deeper meaning to it. You know something you can listen to and you can think that’s kicking on the dance floor but you can sit back and listen to it and think what was going on in those guy’s heads. And you can hear that in both of our music. Whether they are different or not. And the aim is, we’re kind of so locked in together, with myself, Bukem, Conrad, the MC DRS, we’ve all got one goal when we go out Djing. You know, like I start up and build it up and Bukem will finish it off or vice versa. It’s not like two different DJs, it’s got a progression in a night. And that’s how we work. You know we’re not separate guys, we’re not going for separate fame. We’re not trying to do this kind of stuff for ourselves. It’s for the unit of people that surround us. We’re playing the music but all the guys around us are making it, supporting. But we just happen to be kind of spearheading it with the Djing and the touring and stuff. So we’re definitely a unit. A unit, we’ve got the same vision and focus. But musically our backgrounds are different. We love different things, do it for us in different ways. I might listen to a hip-hop track and go “ that blows me away.” And Bukem might think “nah..., I prefer this track”. You know, but when all the elements come together it’s a sound and that’s important. R: I am interested by that because I wonder if that is the way it is for all Good Looking artists. I read an interview with Seba, another popular artist under your label, where he expressed some dissatisfaction with the direction and future of the crew. He seemed to imply that his creativity was being restricted. Is that specific to a situation with Seba, or do you think other artists involved in the label feel that way? B: I know the article that you’re talking with Seba and I know…. in life, nothing’s ever simple. You might, I might have a meeting with Good Looking and think, I want to take my label in this direction. And they’re like no, what are you talking about you’re completely wrong, we should do it like this. And you kind of have a head to head. But, you kind of, I might go out thinking, why can’t they see what I’m thinking, “You know, you can’t do this”. But I think Seba kind of had that sort of feeling, but he had an interview like ten minutes later. So, he even said he wishes he hadn’t said certain things. But, you’ve got to be strong musically, because sometimes music and money are two different things. I don’t do it for the money, which for me, keeps the music pure. I know Seba doesn’t do it for the money. But it all depends on the situation and stuff. But I know Seba is one of the most popular artists on Good Looking records, you know so. And I know he’s doing a lot of music. And he’s planning to start his own label and stuff. So I think, you’re going to hear these little things, and I think a lot of things get blown out of proportions. He had probably had an argument with the label one day, but the next days he’s cool, you know? R: What is structure inside the label, are you and Bukem sort of running the show? B: Yeah, like you’ve got myself, Bukem, and an important part is the MC’s we are working with. I haven’t got anyone with me tonight, since it’s more of a kind of bar vibe what we’re doing tonight. Then of course you’ve got the artists around us, sort of giving us the music. You’ve got your the future engineers, that are hopefully going to be signing to 720. There are a lot of the new guys like 6-7-8 new guys that are just playing local their music, but people haven’t heard of them yet. They haven’t even released tracks yet. So it’s sort of building up very quickly, for a lot of these guys its kind of a platform to project what they’re doing. R: There are so many labels popping up these days around the Good Looking crew. Your label, 720, has an album slated for release soon. Did you start 720 as a result of your desire to express Drum and Bass in your own interpretation or was it a result of many artists around you producing tunes that were not getting released? B: Both. There were so many guys giving me tracks. Because I mean the music I play was slowing carving itself into a quite a distinctive sci-fi, futuristic kind of sound. It was just the music I was feeling at the time. A lot of guys were hearing this music and think, you know “I can make some of that”, and they were sending me tracks, and this sound slowly started evolving from this like minded group people. So there was a lot music about that I was thinking “Man, I would like to buy this at a shop”, but I couldn’t buy it, no one was releasing it. It wasn’t in anyone’s bag, the sound that was created. The fact was that there was a brand new sound that I loved and I wanted to get on vinyl, and a bunch of guys with a lot of music. And for what we are doing now, you need a label to take the sound further, you need to DJ all over the world, you need to produce as well, you cannot just be one of these things anymore. It is all part of trying to build a sound and take it, definitely both reasons. R: Not all the music on these labels is Drum and Bass. Tell me about Cookin’. B: Yeah, well Cookin’ …. Everyone that works on Good Looking is quite musically inclined. You don’t wake up every morning and think Drum and Bass, Drum and Bass, Drum and Bass. Because a lot of the time you may have been making Drum and Bass for the last 6 months and you just want to relax in the studio with some laid back beats, chill out you know. And the great thing is with all these labels starting up, I can wake up in the morning and think “I want to make a jazz track today” and I know that the tune will not sit on DAT for the rest of my life. There is a home for it to go, there is a label that will put it out. So it makes what we do and our existence musically worthwhile because you can make whatever you want and there is a label that will put it out, if it is good, if it is crap forget it. (laughs) So Cookin’ is just another offshoot, of what we are doing, I mean, for me, it is not my main love, I love Drum and Bass, you know. But it is nice to be able to chill out and let your hair down you know and flow with the way that you are feeling in certain days and know that it is a worthwhile project. And there are guys around us feel the same way resulting in quite good albums, like Cookin coming out. R: This question is part of a larger issue in Drum and Bass, and it pertains to you because your crew does not seem to be in the norm on this subject. Many amazing UK Drum and Bass producers are bad DJ’s. Why is that and why does the Good Looking crew pride themselves on excellent DJ sets? Where does this respect for the art of DJing come from? B: Djing is kind of well, how can I say this, an extension of production, you spend so long in the studio making those beats just right, and then you come out and play them all over the show like you don’t care? That does not fit. Djing is an important part of what we are doing. If I make a load of music then don’t care about how it is presented, how is the audience going think, see what you are getting at. You’ve got to present it in a way that the mixing is tight so the people can hear clearly what is going on, and that the music’s selected in such a way that it’s a journey. Because what we’re doing is a journey. You know, and I just think that the situation has been occurring with that is, a lot of really good producers, people are booking them. Right let’s get into Djing, and then they realize “How the hell do I DJ?” It is not an easy thing. You can sit down and practice for years but if haven’t got that special something for connecting tracks. It’s not just about keeping them in time, it’s about the choice, it’s about making sure they are in tune musically so that they don’t sound like two piano’s playing at the same time or like a calvary-like coming, do you know what I mean. So these people, are putting records a bag and showing up, you can’t do that we take Djing seriously. And that is why the shows we are doing everywhere are building up, when we did the UK tour the whole tour was packed…we are always trying to do things for the people. When you take things that seriously, you have got DJ well, you have to be on-point. R: How do you feel about the predominance of dark Drum and Bass in the last few years? B: There are a few ways I could answer that questions, One is, how many drum and bass labels there are in the world? Let’s say 1000, I am not sure how many there are. (997 or 8 are Dark labels, one or two are what we do, if you look at % of clubs that are packed and records that are sold it is not the same percentage, It may be %40 what we do %60 what the rest are doing. I think that gives you a clearer picture of what is going on. But for me I think everything goes in cycles. I love Drum and Bass I love listening to the Ed Rush or Doc Scott, because I think what they are doing is good in a different way from what we are doing is good. But everything moves in cycles, you had the speed era, the musical sound of drum and bass, that is what blew drum and bass up, then it kind of involved a lot of major labels come in and I don’t know if that had anything to do with the sound. Now things are coming back around a bit. Like you have Doc Scott and these kinds of people sending me tracks like that are more mellow that the stuff I am making. I am saying “Wow, Ed Rush wants to play my music now”, like you have Goldie ringing up and asking for all the 720 12 inches. And this sort of stuff is good because it is all coming under one roof now. I just see it as kind of different phases, different cycles, you know I don’t ever see anything as overtaking or overshadowing or anything. R: A couple more questions. Bukem and yourself are credited with huge, groundbreaking tunes. Some feel that you and he are responsible for Drum and Bass as we know it today. Does that create pressure on your part to live up to these releases? B: Yeah all the time. I am still trying to get a track as successful as my first track. The first track I made I did in like 4 hours, and I am not saying “yeah I did it in 4 hours, I am a bad boy” or whatever, I didn’t what I was doing. I thought ”that’s it, that must be how music is made, that will do” I didn’t know anything, I think that naiveté and that freshness blew it up. When I saw my name above public enemy in the dance charts I was like “Woah!”, you know what I mean? So, you know, it is always hard to live up to that and I still trying to do that now, and I am spending like three months on tracks. But I think also time is a factor, you can’t just make a track and blow up now, the competition is so good, there is so much good shit. I get depressed when people aren’t feeling what I am doing. A lot of the time the vibe is all, “Blame has gone a bit left or right of the goal post this time”, then the same people six months later are saying “Blame made these legendary tracks”. That stuff, you know, is disheartening because you say “why can’t they feel what I am doing?” But then you see it at the end and think ”Yeah, you know, I kind of knew what I was doing all along”. (laughs) But it is very hard to live up to the old shit, but that is part of being a perfectionist and trying take things… but if it was easy you wouldn’t be putting your all into it. R: Last questions then I will let you go get ready to play. What is in your tape deck right now? I mean to say, what are you into, what are you feeling? B: A lot of things. Basically what I like to do, the local record shops love me, I’ll go “what’s new”, and they will say this, this, this and this. “I will have them all”, “Do you want to hear em”, “No”. I want to know what is happening whether it is good or it is shit. Because I want to know scene-wise what is happening. “Oh this is the shit stuff?, Well, this must be the shit”. The record shops go “here he comes, $ching ching$, they don’t realize what I am doing”. At the moment I’ve got... I am listening to a lot of Rap, kind of New York, kind of East Coast Rap, I am into at the moment. Like ahh.. Wu-Tang bits and pieces. Stuff like, I’ve got the Krust album in the car, I’ve the Cookin’ album in the car, I’ve got so many albums I listen to once then stash them somewhere…..it is always changing. R: Bukem points to 70’s music as an inspiration for his music, do you listen to that genre as well? Do you draw inspiration from there? B: Me and Bukem kind of agree to disagree on them kind of things. For me hip-hop and break-beats are what’s inspired me in Drum and Bass. Bukem’s 6, 7 years older than me, 70’s soul inspired him. He says to me without 70’s soul there wouldn’t be Hip-hop. I say if there wasn’t so and so in the 60’s there wouldn’t be 70’s soul. I think that is the great thing about what we are doing, you can be inspired by so many things and come together under this sound. You can hear 70’s soul in there, you can hear hip-hop in there, you can hear house in there, you can hear funk in there. Bukem is inspired by that era and I guess I am inspired by that era in the sense. That music was created with no boundaries. These guys were sitting on a set of stairs playing and no one was teaching them how to play and it’s like, I was never taught how to play music. When I am in the studio, people are like you can’t do that you are not supposed to lay these sounds together and I say “why not, who made the rules? It sounds good, I’ll use it.” I kind of agree with him there, but I also think hip-hop, break-beats an early house with all the bleeps and techno sounds and futuristic science fiction kinds of effects really inspired me. So everyone is coming from all these genres and forming one sound, so if Bukem says 70’s soul inspires him then that’s what makes his sound fit. That doesn’t mean he is right or that he is wrong it just means that is where he is coming from and that is what I love about Drum and Bass…… ===== randy j shepherd AKA rando the|black|lodge EGO.SITES http://jungle.ffwd.com/advance <---------------------------- http://www.transcasts.com *live sets* http://members.tripod.com/~endlesspage *band* http://www.newzwire.com/events/boston/elements.html *pic* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 13 20:48:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15714 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Dec 1999 20:48:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 15695 invoked from network); 13 Dec 1999 20:48:32 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Dec 1999 20:48:32 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA42135 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:48:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:48:46 -0500 (EST) From: Skinner To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status In-Reply-To: <19991213195208.3682.qmail@web2903.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, rando wrote: -> Don't invite people from some other list, one of the reasons -> this list is fantastic is that it is low-volume, mature and -> covers a variety of Drum and Bass. This is the only DnB list I -> have ever been on with such a high calibur of talent, -> intelligence and respect. Nah it isnt an invite from another list. It is people I know in the buz dj's artists and all around fans of the music. -> Also, I would be very disheartened to see a predominance of -> Breakcore and "Darkstep" in discussion, as I think we have a -> great balance of variety in this list. I consider myself -> well-educated about the history and progress of the jungle/DnB -> genre and STILL learn new things from the Darkstep contributors -> about more industrial related styles(and I hope I tell people a -> few things they didn't know). that is the reason I want to bring more influnces in. since the Breakcore/Darkstep world is meshing so much with the brokenbeat/industrial-elctro-noise world. +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ -Hardcore-Gabber-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber -Darkstep-DnB-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 13 23:51:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2190 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Dec 1999 23:50:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 2006 invoked from network); 13 Dec 1999 23:50:43 -0000 Received: from mail.iweb.net.au (HELO mail2.iweb.net.au) (210.8.138.51) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Dec 1999 23:50:43 -0000 Received: from blackcube (ppp-pm1-13.iweb.net.au [210.8.138.77] (may be forged)) by mail2.iweb.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA32214 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:18:30 +1030 Message-ID: <002a01bf45c4$9bf51520$4d8a08d2@blackcube> From: "ooOOOH" To: Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:18:50 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) i agree with nitwit here. I like the fact that this is a low traffic list. I mean if you're just invinting people that you know sure. But please dont advertise it on a whole bunch of other lists so we get a flood of little 16 yo cats. i see what you're getting at tho, in many cases broken beat and darkstep is barely distnguishable, but hey, no need to open the floodgates! with all due respect, i'd prefer to not have to the same level of traffic as the g-list! between the gabber list and c8 i can kiss quite a bit of time away, wading thru it in case i miss something interesting...... One thing which i'd appreciate tho is more reviews from people??? its quite hard to get darkstep and broken beat stuff here in australia, and all of it is thru mail order so a review on here goes a long way for me, and i'm sure would help others as well! .nacht. atfassaultcru -----Original Message----- From: Skinner To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Date: Tuesday, 14 December 1999 7:16 Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status > >On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, rando wrote: > >-> Don't invite people from some other list, one of the reasons >-> this list is fantastic is that it is low-volume, mature and >-> covers a variety of Drum and Bass. This is the only DnB list I >-> have ever been on with such a high calibur of talent, >-> intelligence and respect. > >Nah it isnt an invite from another list. It is people I know in the >buz dj's artists and all around fans of the music. > >-> Also, I would be very disheartened to see a predominance of >-> Breakcore and "Darkstep" in discussion, as I think we have a >-> great balance of variety in this list. I consider myself >-> well-educated about the history and progress of the jungle/DnB >-> genre and STILL learn new things from the Darkstep contributors >-> about more industrial related styles(and I hope I tell people a >-> few things they didn't know). > >that is the reason I want to bring more influnces in. since the >Breakcore/Darkstep world is meshing so much with the >brokenbeat/industrial-elctro-noise world. > >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ >| skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | >| ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ >| Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | >| Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ >-Hardcore-Gabber-List- > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber >-Darkstep-DnB-List- > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep > > From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Dec 14 00:37:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10310 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Dec 1999 00:37:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 10060 invoked from network); 14 Dec 1999 00:37:13 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Dec 1999 00:37:13 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA60361 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:37:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:37:24 -0500 (EST) From: Skinner To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status In-Reply-To: <002a01bf45c4$9bf51520$4d8a08d2@blackcube> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, ooOOOH wrote: -> One thing which i'd appreciate tho is more reviews from -> people??? its quite hard to get darkstep and broken beat stuff -> here in australia, and all of it is thru mail order so a review -> on here goes a long way for me, and i'm sure would help others -> as well! I normaly write reviews as often as I can, be it old sh*t or new sh*t. however I am in the process of moving to a new flat, and have no time to myself since work is keeping me busy as hell with a new DBA system. So what little time I have it is spent deleting mail, yelling at people on the gabber list and being a sysadmin for my servers. But commith the new year you can expect much reviews from me.. I pose a question. Is there anything I can put on the website that you think would be useful? I orginaly wanted to put url's to all the members who chose this, but alas my life became h3ctic and I never got to it. Maybe in the new year I will start that project again :) -- +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ -Hardcore-Gabber-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber -Darkstep-DnB-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Dec 14 00:44:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15130 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Dec 1999 00:44:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 15110 invoked from network); 14 Dec 1999 00:44:52 -0000 Received: from andythepooh.com (nuggets@209.176.26.206) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Dec 1999 00:44:52 -0000 Received: from ULTRA07 [209.166.162.168] by andythepooh.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A3808D30142; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:46:56 -0500 Message-ID: <025301bf45cc$654c7e20$a8a2a6d1@ULTRA07> From: "Geoff Maddock" To: References: Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:44:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Skinner - You should put a link to my crew's website http://pbs.chemlab.org Me and tom cox run it, and we're both on this list, and we both spin a fair bit of darkstep. Our event this weekend has Grrl 13, Deadly Buda, Bombardier, Subcode + others...def of note to the darksteppers. - geoff/cutup ----- Original Message ----- From: "Skinner" To: Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 7:37 PM Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status > > On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, ooOOOH wrote: > > -> One thing which i'd appreciate tho is more reviews from > -> people??? its quite hard to get darkstep and broken beat stuff > -> here in australia, and all of it is thru mail order so a review > -> on here goes a long way for me, and i'm sure would help others > -> as well! > > I normaly write reviews as often as I can, be it old sh*t or new sh*t. > however I am in the process of moving to a new flat, and have no time > to myself since work is keeping me busy as hell with a new DBA system. > So what little time I have it is spent deleting mail, yelling at > people on the gabber list and being a sysadmin for my servers. > > But commith the new year you can expect much reviews from me.. > > > I pose a question. Is there anything I can put on the website that you > think would be useful? I orginaly wanted to put url's to all the > members who chose this, but alas my life became h3ctic and I never got > to it. Maybe in the new year I will start that project again :) > > -- > +----------------------------+------------------------------+ > | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | > | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | > +----------------------------+------------------------------+ > | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | > | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | > +----------------------------+------------------------------+ > -Hardcore-Gabber-List- > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber > -Darkstep-DnB-List- > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep > > > From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Dec 14 00:51:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18977 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Dec 1999 00:51:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 18967 invoked from network); 14 Dec 1999 00:51:10 -0000 Received: from rabacal.direct.ca (199.60.229.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Dec 1999 00:51:10 -0000 Received: from mut-53-0241.direct.ca ([216.66.132.137] helo=direct.ca) by rabacal.direct.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #7) id 11xgBG-000099-00 for darkstep@hyperreal.org; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:51:07 -0800 Message-ID: <3855961C.F383B882@direct.ca> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:58:04 -0800 From: colin Organization: Mediacore X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: events (was Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status) References: <025301bf45cc$654c7e20$a8a2a6d1@ULTRA07> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) eh... can you post more info about this?...I think it's a good thing to let people from other parts of the continent or world know what you're doing & the context w/in which you experience the music Geoff Maddock wrote: > > Skinner - > You should put a link to my crew's website > http://pbs.chemlab.org > Me and tom cox run it, and we're both on this list, > and we both spin a fair bit of darkstep. Our event this weekend > has Grrl 13, Deadly Buda, Bombardier, Subcode + others...def of note > to the darksteppers. > > - geoff/cutup -- colin http://www.mediacore.org/~clone http://mp3.com/sonicatharsis np: Sonarrogant From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Dec 14 00:59:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24565 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Dec 1999 00:59:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 24348 invoked from network); 14 Dec 1999 00:59:07 -0000 Received: from andythepooh.com (nuggets@209.176.26.206) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Dec 1999 00:59:07 -0000 Received: from ULTRA07 [209.166.162.168] by andythepooh.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A6D86C102AE; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:01:12 -0500 Message-ID: <026101bf45ce$637f4d50$a8a2a6d1@ULTRA07> From: "Geoff Maddock" To: References: <025301bf45cc$654c7e20$a8a2a6d1@ULTRA07> <3855961C.F383B882@direct.ca> Subject: Re: events (was Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:58:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Here's the info for the event - its this Friday Night - Dec 17th - in Pittsburgh PA CHAOTIC TRANSDIMENSION "fucking your mind one time" for only ten dollars american you get S U B C O D E west coast drum + bass dubplate bizzness phunkateck crew san fran + records on soundsphere and thermal recordings D E A D L Y B U D A turbo zen morphbeat wildstyle hardcore deadly systems boulder colorado B O M B A R D I E R industrial breakbeat noisecore from a punk background low rez, vinyl communications, hangars liquides - minneapolis F A R M E R T runnin the dancehall with drum + bass music boosted recordings and beat camp, miami G R R L 1 3 riot girrl blast beats - germanic darkstep boosted recordings and beat camp, miami P A R V E L U S I N F E C T U S cyclopian apocalypitic post-industrial live PA aural autonomy, pittsburgh T H E I N S T I G A T O R underground electro turntablist action hypervinyl records, pittsburgh A R I A intelligent drum and bass music skunkwerks/starbass 23, columbus B A G E L & A L A S K A upfront dark ravesteppin' drum + bass bulletproof + starbass 23, pittsburgh Don't you dare come unprepared to rock out your hardest. This will NOT be your steriotypical rave - be prepared for surprizes. Live Art installation will be created as the event goes on. Bring some extra loot to buy some stuff from the artists and labels represented. Free toys at the door. the location is the IRISH CENTER OF PITTSBURGH, on forward avenue in Squirrel Hill. Get there early - if you park in the field there's a $2 parking fee. There is running water on the premises, and we don't mind if you bring your own, but we will have water for sale for 50 cents per bottle. STAY THE FUCK HOME if you're just looking for drugs. for directions/last minute info call the infoline 4 1 2 . 7 3 4 . 8 3 3 4 or email arrdcore@chemlab.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "colin" To: Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 7:58 PM Subject: events (was Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status) > > eh... > > can you post more info about this?...I think it's a good thing to let > people from other parts of the continent or world know what you're doing > & the context w/in which you experience the music > > > Geoff Maddock wrote: > > > > Skinner - > > You should put a link to my crew's website > > http://pbs.chemlab.org > > Me and tom cox run it, and we're both on this list, > > and we both spin a fair bit of darkstep. Our event this weekend > > has Grrl 13, Deadly Buda, Bombardier, Subcode + others...def of note > > to the darksteppers. > > > > - geoff/cutup > > > > -- > colin > http://www.mediacore.org/~clone > http://mp3.com/sonicatharsis > np: Sonarrogant > From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Dec 14 02:08:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19884 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Dec 1999 02:08:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 19862 invoked from network); 14 Dec 1999 02:08:21 -0000 Received: from ha1.rdc2.occa.home.com (HELO mail.rdc2.occa.home.com) (imail@24.2.8.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Dec 1999 02:08:21 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.1.141.103]) by mail.rdc2.occa.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19991214020820.UIJA17446.mail.rdc2.occa.home.com@home.com> for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:08:20 -0800 Message-ID: <3855999D.4953BB2E@home.com> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:13:09 -0700 From: Beau Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 C-AtHome0405(Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status References: <002a01bf45c4$9bf51520$4d8a08d2@blackcube> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) I agree I want some reviews too, I am having trouble finding more info on really dark techstep or darkstep and stuff. I am also looking for psychedelic sounding techstep and drum n bass. If any of you like psychedelic trance or goa I am looking for drum n bass with some of the same sounds. Anyway I just came on this list and i like that there are not that many people constantly sending out stupid messages. I am on another list and there is a lot of personal drama going on and I hate that. Anyone got any suggestions of good darkstep on vinyl or cd please tell me cuz I wan tit. Or just dark growly drum n bass and jungle and techstep. The darker, trippier, scarier growlier and industrial type psychedelic stuff the better. beaubotical ooOOOH wrote: > > i agree with nitwit here. I like the fact that this is a low traffic list. I > mean if you're just invinting people that you know sure. But please dont > advertise it on a whole bunch of other lists so we get a flood of little 16 > yo cats. > > i see what you're getting at tho, in many cases broken beat and darkstep is > barely distnguishable, but hey, no need to open the floodgates! with all due > respect, i'd prefer to not have to the same level of traffic as the g-list! > between the gabber list and c8 i can kiss quite a bit of time away, wading > thru it in case i miss something interesting...... > > One thing which i'd appreciate tho is more reviews from people??? its quite > hard to get darkstep and broken beat stuff here in australia, and all of it > is thru mail order so a review on here goes a long way for me, and i'm sure > would help others as well! > > .nacht. > > atfassaultcru > > -----Original Message----- > From: Skinner > To: darkstep@hyperreal.org > Date: Tuesday, 14 December 1999 7:16 > Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status > > > > >On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, rando wrote: > > > >-> Don't invite people from some other list, one of the reasons > >-> this list is fantastic is that it is low-volume, mature and > >-> covers a variety of Drum and Bass. This is the only DnB list I > >-> have ever been on with such a high calibur of talent, > >-> intelligence and respect. > > > >Nah it isnt an invite from another list. It is people I know in the > >buz dj's artists and all around fans of the music. > > > >-> Also, I would be very disheartened to see a predominance of > >-> Breakcore and "Darkstep" in discussion, as I think we have a > >-> great balance of variety in this list. I consider myself > >-> well-educated about the history and progress of the jungle/DnB > >-> genre and STILL learn new things from the Darkstep contributors > >-> about more industrial related styles(and I hope I tell people a > >-> few things they didn't know). > > > >that is the reason I want to bring more influnces in. since the > >Breakcore/Darkstep world is meshing so much with the > >brokenbeat/industrial-elctro-noise world. > > > >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ > >| skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | > >| ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | > >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ > >| Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | > >| Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | > >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ > >-Hardcore-Gabber-List- > > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber > >-Darkstep-DnB-List- > > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep > > > > From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Dec 14 02:12:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22968 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Dec 1999 02:12:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 22937 invoked from network); 14 Dec 1999 02:12:32 -0000 Received: from ha1.rdc2.occa.home.com (HELO mail.rdc2.occa.home.com) (imail@24.2.8.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Dec 1999 02:12:32 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.1.141.103]) by mail.rdc2.occa.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19991214021231.UKKO17446.mail.rdc2.occa.home.com@home.com> for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:12:31 -0800 Message-ID: <38559A98.3230478B@home.com> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:17:21 -0700 From: Beau Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 C-AtHome0405(Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Darkstep mailing list Subject: (DARKSTEP) southern california Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Hey I live in southern california and am looking for any darkstep, techstep small parties. There are of course big parties here with jungle and such but am having trouble finding any small parties with just darkstep or dark drum n bass or what not. Don't really go out to many parties other than small desert ones where I am the only dj not spinning psychedelic trance or goa or something because I am sick of the scene here. Too big, too much drama, too much candy and fake people. beaubotical From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Dec 14 02:20:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28775 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Dec 1999 02:20:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 28753 invoked from network); 14 Dec 1999 02:20:10 -0000 Received: from andythepooh.com (nuggets@209.176.26.206) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Dec 1999 02:20:10 -0000 Received: from ULTRA07 [209.166.162.168] by andythepooh.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A9D6C903A8; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 21:22:14 -0500 Message-ID: <02c601bf45d9$b60369c0$a8a2a6d1@ULTRA07> From: "Geoff Maddock" To: References: <002a01bf45c4$9bf51520$4d8a08d2@blackcube> <3855999D.4953BB2E@home.com> Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 21:19:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Your best bet i would say would be Panacea's album "Pheonix Metabolism"...dark, and somewhat trippy, although not like psytrance. The Hardware album "Armegeddon" has something of a trancy vibe to it, although its very minimal. Both of those are more in the upfront d+b areana. I still think the best dark breakbeat stuff i've heard lately is Eiterherd's "1999 vs 1984" on Praxis....very fast and noisy stuff. Also AbelCain's "Faust EP" on LowRes is very good dirty noisy breakcore. - cutup ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beau" To: Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 8:13 PM Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status > > I agree I want some reviews too, I am having trouble finding more info > on really dark techstep or darkstep and stuff. I am also looking for > psychedelic sounding techstep and drum n bass. If any of you like > psychedelic trance or goa I am looking for drum n bass with some of the > same sounds. > Anyway I just came on this list and i like that there are not that many > people constantly sending out stupid messages. I am on another list and > there is a lot of personal drama going on and I hate that. > Anyone got any suggestions of good darkstep on vinyl or cd please tell > me cuz I wan tit. Or just dark growly drum n bass and jungle and > techstep. The darker, trippier, scarier growlier and industrial type > psychedelic stuff the better. > beaubotical > > ooOOOH wrote: > > > > i agree with nitwit here. I like the fact that this is a low traffic list. I > > mean if you're just invinting people that you know sure. But please dont > > advertise it on a whole bunch of other lists so we get a flood of little 16 > > yo cats. > > > > i see what you're getting at tho, in many cases broken beat and darkstep is > > barely distnguishable, but hey, no need to open the floodgates! with all due > > respect, i'd prefer to not have to the same level of traffic as the g-list! > > between the gabber list and c8 i can kiss quite a bit of time away, wading > > thru it in case i miss something interesting...... > > > > One thing which i'd appreciate tho is more reviews from people??? its quite > > hard to get darkstep and broken beat stuff here in australia, and all of it > > is thru mail order so a review on here goes a long way for me, and i'm sure > > would help others as well! > > > > .nacht. > > > > atfassaultcru > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Skinner > > To: darkstep@hyperreal.org > > Date: Tuesday, 14 December 1999 7:16 > > Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status > > > > > > > >On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, rando wrote: > > > > > >-> Don't invite people from some other list, one of the reasons > > >-> this list is fantastic is that it is low-volume, mature and > > >-> covers a variety of Drum and Bass. This is the only DnB list I > > >-> have ever been on with such a high calibur of talent, > > >-> intelligence and respect. > > > > > >Nah it isnt an invite from another list. It is people I know in the > > >buz dj's artists and all around fans of the music. > > > > > >-> Also, I would be very disheartened to see a predominance of > > >-> Breakcore and "Darkstep" in discussion, as I think we have a > > >-> great balance of variety in this list. I consider myself > > >-> well-educated about the history and progress of the jungle/DnB > > >-> genre and STILL learn new things from the Darkstep contributors > > >-> about more industrial related styles(and I hope I tell people a > > >-> few things they didn't know). > > > > > >that is the reason I want to bring more influnces in. since the > > >Breakcore/Darkstep world is meshing so much with the > > >brokenbeat/industrial-elctro-noise world. > > > > > >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ > > >| skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | > > >| ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | > > >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ > > >| Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | > > >| Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | > > >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ > > >-Hardcore-Gabber-List- > > > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber > > >-Darkstep-DnB-List- > > > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep > > > > > > > From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Dec 14 02:25:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4770 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Dec 1999 02:25:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 4752 invoked from network); 14 Dec 1999 02:25:51 -0000 Received: from rabacal.direct.ca (199.60.229.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Dec 1999 02:25:51 -0000 Received: from mut-53-0241.direct.ca ([216.66.132.137] helo=direct.ca) by rabacal.direct.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #7) id 11xher-0007NO-00 for darkstep@hyperreal.org; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:25:45 -0800 Message-ID: <3855AC53.78806E7F@direct.ca> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:32:51 -0800 From: colin Organization: Mediacore X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) southern california References: <38559A98.3230478B@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Beau wrote: > > Hey I live in southern california and am looking for any darkstep, > techstep small parties. There are of course big parties here with > jungle and such but am having trouble finding any small parties with > just darkstep or dark drum n bass or what not. > Don't really go out to many parties other than small desert ones where I > am the only dj not spinning psychedelic trance or goa or something > because I am sick of the scene here. Too big, too much drama, too much > candy and fake people. > beaubotical check out: http://junglevoodoo.com -- colin http://www.mediacore.org/~clone http://mp3.com/sonicatharsis np: Span From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Dec 14 03:44:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10516 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Dec 1999 03:44:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 10253 invoked from network); 14 Dec 1999 03:43:05 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Dec 1999 03:43:05 -0000 Received: from Encore808@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id f.0.7cb2a280 (4381); Mon, 13 Dec 1999 22:42:04 -0500 (EST) From: Encore808@aol.com Message-ID: <0.7cb2a280.2587168b@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 22:42:03 EST Subject: (DARKSTEP) DRUM AND BASS in Atlanta : Genetix Events To: se-raves@ravedata.com, junglist@us-jungle.com, darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Hey everyone, We are proud to announce that we have recently moved venues to Cobalt. It is an 21+ club, with top notch sound and lights, 2 levels of sound, and the decor in this place is unreal!! We are also happy to announce that in the upcoming months some amazing drum and bass producers/DJ's will be making their mark in Atlanta. Several of which for the first time. So keep an eye out!!!! Our opening night with Cobalt will be Thursday, January 20 with Dieselboy and MC Dub 2, and February and March lineups will be announced soon. Below is all the information for upcoming Genetix events. To join the Genetix mailing list for event updates, scene reports, dj reviews, etc...please visit: http://jungle.ffwd.com/genetix...... Take care, Christy Encore Entertainment / Genetix _________________________________ Thursday, December 23, 1999 Atlanta, Georgia ~~GENETIX 03 presents LADIES NIGHT~~ **Come out to support your local Atlanta drum and bass ladies!! Only $5 all night** ********LITTLE JEN*********** (20hz Cartel) Atlanta **********DUDA************* (Playtheavy Kru) Atlanta **********KYLA************ (Rydim Ryderz) Atlanta *********ISIS************* (Rydim Ryderz / Legion) Atlanta along with vocalist: ******SUONT******* Location: The Vault Atlanta, GA 2 Blocks North of the Roxy on Roswell Road. >From the North: Take I-75 South to I-285 East to Roswell Road exit. Turn right (south) onto Roswell Road. The Vault is approximately 5 minutes south on the left. >From the South: Take I-85 north to 400 north to Lenox Road/Phipps Plaza exit. Turn left at light - head towards Piedmont Road. Left on Piedmont Road. Right onto Peachtree Street. Turn right immediately after the IHOP onto Roswell Road. The Vault is on the right. Cover: $5 all night 18 and Up 21 to Drink w/ ID 10pm-4am _________________________________ Thursday, January 20, 2000 Atlanta GA GENETIX 04_ The Future of Drum and Bass Upstairs: DIESELBOY & MC DUB2 (Tech Itch/Platinum/Palm Pictures) (Platinum/PHI) Philadelphia PA Dieselboy is widely recognized as one of the pioneers of the US drum and bass scene. With several releases on Tech Itch Recordings UK, "The Descent" marks his debut with Palm Pictures, this is the first of two 12" singles that will precede a full length due in 2000. Alongside in support, Platinum resident MC Dub2, America's premiere MC. ROBBIE B (Dubwar/Genetix) Atlanta GA GRAHAM (20hz Cartel) Atlanta GA GABRIEL (20hz Cartel/Fountainhead Lounge) Atlanta GA Downstairs: COBALT RESIDENTS Location: Cobalt 265 East Paces Ferry Road Atlanta GA 404.760.9250 Directions from the Northwest: I-75 South, exit at West Paces Ferry Road. Turn left at light. Go straight until you cross over Peachtree Street, Cobalt is located immediately on your right. Directions from Northeast: I-85 South exit Lenox Road, Turn right at light onto Lenox Road. Go straight until you get to Peachtree Street. Turn left onto Peachtree, left at Bolling Street (across from IHOP). Right onto East Paces Ferry Road. Cobalt is located on your left. >From the South: Head North on Peachtree Street, Turn right onto East Paces Ferry Road (at Starbucks). Cobalt is immediately on your right. Cover: $8 before Midnight $10 after Midnight 21+ with ID Info: 404.303.0839 To join the Genetix Mailing List, please visit: http://jungle.ffwd.com/genetix http://www.encoreagency.com http://www.knowledgemag.co.uk Upcoming Genetix Events: December 23, 1999: Ladies Night with LITTLE JEN, DUDA, ISIS, KYLA and SUONT @ The Vault January 20, 2000: Dieselboy, Dub2, Robbie B, Graham, Gabriel @ Cobalt February 17, 2000: TBA @ Cobalt March 23, 2000: TBA @ Cobalt From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Dec 14 04:23:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19871 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Dec 1999 04:23:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 19760 invoked from network); 14 Dec 1999 04:23:40 -0000 Received: from ha1.rdc2.occa.home.com (HELO mail.rdc2.occa.home.com) (imail@24.2.8.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Dec 1999 04:23:40 -0000 Received: from home.com ([24.1.141.103]) by mail.rdc2.occa.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19991214042339.XAMC17446.mail.rdc2.occa.home.com@home.com> for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:23:39 -0800 Message-ID: <3855B954.41900A59@home.com> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:28:32 -0700 From: Beau Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 C-AtHome0405(Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status References: <002a01bf45c4$9bf51520$4d8a08d2@blackcube> <3855999D.4953BB2E@home.com> <02c601bf45d9$b60369c0$a8a2a6d1@ULTRA07> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) am not really looking for trancy stuff. am mostly looking for dnb or jungle using some of the really psychedelic growly bleepy space noises I hear in some of the psytrance I spin and my friends spin, closest I have heard is some stuff eat Static did off Science of the Gods and a group called Joujouka does a song that is sort of psychedelic dnb. But thanks for the suggestions. will look into them. beaubotical Geoff Maddock wrote: > > Your best bet i would say would be Panacea's album > "Pheonix Metabolism"...dark, and somewhat trippy, although not like > psytrance. > The Hardware album "Armegeddon" has something of a trancy vibe to it, > although its very minimal. Both of those are more in the upfront d+b > areana. > > I still think the best dark breakbeat stuff i've heard lately is > Eiterherd's "1999 vs 1984" on Praxis....very fast and noisy stuff. > Also AbelCain's "Faust EP" on LowRes is very good dirty noisy breakcore. > > - cutup > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Beau" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 8:13 PM > Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status > > > > > I agree I want some reviews too, I am having trouble finding more info > > on really dark techstep or darkstep and stuff. I am also looking for > > psychedelic sounding techstep and drum n bass. If any of you like > > psychedelic trance or goa I am looking for drum n bass with some of the > > same sounds. > > Anyway I just came on this list and i like that there are not that many > > people constantly sending out stupid messages. I am on another list and > > there is a lot of personal drama going on and I hate that. > > Anyone got any suggestions of good darkstep on vinyl or cd please tell > > me cuz I wan tit. Or just dark growly drum n bass and jungle and > > techstep. The darker, trippier, scarier growlier and industrial type > > psychedelic stuff the better. > > beaubotical > > > > ooOOOH wrote: > > > > > > i agree with nitwit here. I like the fact that this is a low traffic > list. I > > > mean if you're just invinting people that you know sure. But please dont > > > advertise it on a whole bunch of other lists so we get a flood of little > 16 > > > yo cats. > > > > > > i see what you're getting at tho, in many cases broken beat and darkstep > is > > > barely distnguishable, but hey, no need to open the floodgates! with all > due > > > respect, i'd prefer to not have to the same level of traffic as the > g-list! > > > between the gabber list and c8 i can kiss quite a bit of time away, > wading > > > thru it in case i miss something interesting...... > > > > > > One thing which i'd appreciate tho is more reviews from people??? its > quite > > > hard to get darkstep and broken beat stuff here in australia, and all of > it > > > is thru mail order so a review on here goes a long way for me, and i'm > sure > > > would help others as well! > > > > > > .nacht. > > > > > > atfassaultcru > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Skinner > > > To: darkstep@hyperreal.org > > > Date: Tuesday, 14 December 1999 7:16 > > > Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status > > > > > > > > > > >On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, rando wrote: > > > > > > > >-> Don't invite people from some other list, one of the reasons > > > >-> this list is fantastic is that it is low-volume, mature and > > > >-> covers a variety of Drum and Bass. This is the only DnB list I > > > >-> have ever been on with such a high calibur of talent, > > > >-> intelligence and respect. > > > > > > > >Nah it isnt an invite from another list. It is people I know in the > > > >buz dj's artists and all around fans of the music. > > > > > > > >-> Also, I would be very disheartened to see a predominance of > > > >-> Breakcore and "Darkstep" in discussion, as I think we have a > > > >-> great balance of variety in this list. I consider myself > > > >-> well-educated about the history and progress of the jungle/DnB > > > >-> genre and STILL learn new things from the Darkstep contributors > > > >-> about more industrial related styles(and I hope I tell people a > > > >-> few things they didn't know). > > > > > > > >that is the reason I want to bring more influnces in. since the > > > >Breakcore/Darkstep world is meshing so much with the > > > >brokenbeat/industrial-elctro-noise world. > > > > > > > >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ > > > >| skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | > > > >| ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | > > > >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ > > > >| Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | > > > >| Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | > > > >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ > > > >-Hardcore-Gabber-List- > > > > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber > > > >-Darkstep-DnB-List- > > > > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep > > > > > > > > > > From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Dec 14 04:58:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23021 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Dec 1999 04:58:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 22856 invoked from network); 14 Dec 1999 04:57:52 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Dec 1999 04:57:52 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA63255; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 23:58:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 23:58:03 -0500 (EST) From: Skinner To: Gabber List cc: DarkStep Mailing List Subject: (DARKSTEP) Holidays Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Now would be a good time for any of you people who have ISPs that place limits on your mailbox sizes and who are planning on being away from the net over the holidays to unsub temporarily. If you don't want to miss any of the posts I suggest switching to the digest format. Just a suggestion. -- +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ -Hardcore-Gabber-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber -Darkstep-DnB-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Dec 14 05:11:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2474 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Dec 1999 05:11:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 2446 invoked from network); 14 Dec 1999 05:11:24 -0000 Received: from edam.direct.ca (@199.60.229.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Dec 1999 05:11:24 -0000 Received: from mut-53-0356.direct.ca ([216.66.133.56] helo=direct.ca) by edam.direct.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #21) id 11xkF3-0000AF-00 for darkstep@hyperreal.org; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 21:11:19 -0800 Message-ID: <3855D319.22791787@direct.ca> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 21:18:17 -0800 From: colin Organization: Mediacore X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status References: <002a01bf45c4$9bf51520$4d8a08d2@blackcube> <3855999D.4953BB2E@home.com> <02c601bf45d9$b60369c0$a8a2a6d1@ULTRA07> <3855B954.41900A59@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Beau wrote: > > am not really looking for trancy stuff. am mostly looking for dnb or > jungle using some of the really psychedelic growly bleepy space noises I > hear in some of the psytrance I spin and my friends spin, http://www.c8.com/tunes/somatics/1.ram http://www.c8.com/tunes/praxis/praxis29b1.ram (same track) http://www.c8.com/somatics http://www.c8/com/praxis > closest I have > heard is some stuff eat Static did off Science of the Gods and a group > called Joujouka does a song that is sort of psychedelic dnb. But thanks > for the suggestions. > will look into them. > beaubotical > > Geoff Maddock wrote: > > > > Your best bet i would say would be Panacea's album > > "Pheonix Metabolism"...dark, and somewhat trippy, although not like > > psytrance. > > The Hardware album "Armegeddon" has something of a trancy vibe to it, > > although its very minimal. Both of those are more in the upfront d+b > > areana. > > > > I still think the best dark breakbeat stuff i've heard lately is > > Eiterherd's "1999 vs 1984" on Praxis....very fast and noisy stuff. > > Also AbelCain's "Faust EP" on LowRes is very good dirty noisy breakcore. > > > > - cutup -- colin http://www.mediacore.org/~clone http://mp3.com/sonicatharsis np: what else? From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Dec 14 06:33:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5635 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Dec 1999 06:33:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 5440 invoked from network); 14 Dec 1999 06:33:24 -0000 Received: from smtp-gateway.com (mailgate@192.41.26.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Dec 1999 06:33:24 -0000 Received: from andythepooh.com (localhost) by smtp-gateway.com (8.8.5) id BAA22285; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 01:33:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3855E4A6.F4B991FC@andythepooh.com> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 01:33:10 -0500 From: "death?!?! to false metal" Organization: Pillow Biting Sissies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status References: <025301bf45cc$654c7e20$a8a2a6d1@ULTRA07> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) its actually http://pbs.chemlab.org/ and everyone knows *I* run it, damn it. tom Geoff Maddock wrote: > > Skinner - > You should put a link to my crew's website > http://pbs.chemlab.org > Me and tom cox run it, and we're both on this list, > and we both spin a fair bit of darkstep. Our event this weekend > has Grrl 13, Deadly Buda, Bombardier, Subcode + others...def of note > to the darksteppers. > > - geoff/cutup > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Skinner" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 7:37 PM > Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status > > > > > On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, ooOOOH wrote: > > > > -> One thing which i'd appreciate tho is more reviews from > > -> people??? its quite hard to get darkstep and broken beat stuff > > -> here in australia, and all of it is thru mail order so a review > > -> on here goes a long way for me, and i'm sure would help others > > -> as well! > > > > I normaly write reviews as often as I can, be it old sh*t or new sh*t. > > however I am in the process of moving to a new flat, and have no time > > to myself since work is keeping me busy as hell with a new DBA system. > > So what little time I have it is spent deleting mail, yelling at > > people on the gabber list and being a sysadmin for my servers. > > > > But commith the new year you can expect much reviews from me.. > > > > > > I pose a question. Is there anything I can put on the website that you > > think would be useful? I orginaly wanted to put url's to all the > > members who chose this, but alas my life became h3ctic and I never got > > to it. Maybe in the new year I will start that project again :) > > > > -- > > +----------------------------+------------------------------+ > > | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | > > | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | > > +----------------------------+------------------------------+ > > | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | > > | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | > > +----------------------------+------------------------------+ > > -Hardcore-Gabber-List- > > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber > > -Darkstep-DnB-List- > > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep > > > > > > From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Dec 14 09:31:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24431 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Dec 1999 09:31:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 24410 invoked from network); 14 Dec 1999 09:30:57 -0000 Received: from smtp-gateway.com (mailgate@192.41.26.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Dec 1999 09:30:57 -0000 Received: from andythepooh.com (localhost) by smtp-gateway.com (8.8.5) id EAA15398; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 04:30:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38560E39.C6970048@andythepooh.com> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 04:30:33 -0500 From: "death?!?! to false metal" Organization: Pillow Biting Sissies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: breaks , your mother , darkstep list , cretins , hammy , pee-bee-ess players Subject: (DARKSTEP) [Fwd: chaotic transdimension netcast, etc] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) this will start around 9:00 pm EST this friday night. check out the iron city hardcore stylee. tmo friday, december 17, 1999.. pbs & starbass 23 bring you: c h a o t i c t r a n s d i m e n s i o n with: subcode deadly buda farmer t bombardier grrl 13 bagel & alaska the instigator aria parvulus infectus live netcast brought to you by the chemlab. this netcast will be in mp3 format, so you'll need winamp or a comparable mp3 player to tune in. check it out at: http://chemlab.org/raves/chaotic_transdimension.phtml this is *NOT* an excuse to stay home. admission is only $10.00 @ the door. 412/734-8334 - http://pbs.chemlab.org -steve -- http://chemlab.org - email shade-pgpkey@chemlab.org for pgp public key chemlab radio! - drop out @ http://mp3.chemlab.org:8000 24-7-365 "i could build anything if i could just find my tools.." From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Dec 14 11:38:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19221 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Dec 1999 11:38:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 19155 invoked from network); 14 Dec 1999 11:38:06 -0000 Received: from f328.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.107) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Dec 1999 11:38:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 22298 invoked by uid 0); 14 Dec 1999 11:37:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19991214113736.22297.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.129.167.129 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 03:37:36 PST X-Originating-IP: [194.129.167.129] From: "edward heard" To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 03:37:36 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Although I have enjoyed being part of the list, there is more scope for weekly play lists and addresses or sites for those hard to find tunes or whites. Also where is the rest of the UK contingency? Nuf respect for brothers (and sisters) over the Atlantic, especially seeing playlists for clubs and knowing there is a solid scene. But little is mentioned about UK. Hope its helpfull 2 u Skinner respect dj talldred >From: Skinner >Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org >To: DarkStep Mailing List >Subject: (DARKSTEP) List Status >Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 14:27:28 -0500 (EST) > > >I would like to find out from the list what your opnions have been of >it over the list year, and how I can continue to offer a nice >community for you all. > >A few things I have planed for the new year is inviting many of the >borkenbeat people onto the list. Since many of us here and much of the >music out there is cossing over with the industrial brokenbeat and >darkstep these days. Hell you can change your name and market it >differnly and people would clame it as either or. > >So please tell me what you feel about the list. Any new idea's I can >use maybe make the website useful for something :). > > >-- >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ >| skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | >| ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ >| Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | >| Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ >-Hardcore-Gabber-List- > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber >-Darkstep-DnB-List- > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Dec 14 11:52:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22491 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Dec 1999 11:52:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 22482 invoked from network); 14 Dec 1999 11:52:29 -0000 Received: from f29.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.40) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Dec 1999 11:52:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 34724 invoked by uid 0); 14 Dec 1999 11:51:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19991214115159.34723.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.129.167.129 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 03:51:59 PST X-Originating-IP: [194.129.167.129] From: "edward heard" To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 03:51:59 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Howz about Dylans new label 'Outbreak' there are two releases on it at the mo, the names pass me by but are floor fillin darkness. Or so the crowd thinks when I've played them out. Chek it dj talldred >From: "Geoff Maddock" >Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org >To: >Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status >Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 21:19:54 -0500 > > >Your best bet i would say would be Panacea's album >"Pheonix Metabolism"...dark, and somewhat trippy, although not like >psytrance. >The Hardware album "Armegeddon" has something of a trancy vibe to it, >although its very minimal. Both of those are more in the upfront d+b >areana. > >I still think the best dark breakbeat stuff i've heard lately is >Eiterherd's "1999 vs 1984" on Praxis....very fast and noisy stuff. >Also AbelCain's "Faust EP" on LowRes is very good dirty noisy breakcore. > >- cutup > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Beau" >To: >Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 8:13 PM >Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status > > > > > > I agree I want some reviews too, I am having trouble finding more info > > on really dark techstep or darkstep and stuff. I am also looking for > > psychedelic sounding techstep and drum n bass. If any of you like > > psychedelic trance or goa I am looking for drum n bass with some of the > > same sounds. > > Anyway I just came on this list and i like that there are not that many > > people constantly sending out stupid messages. I am on another list and > > there is a lot of personal drama going on and I hate that. > > Anyone got any suggestions of good darkstep on vinyl or cd please tell > > me cuz I wan tit. Or just dark growly drum n bass and jungle and > > techstep. The darker, trippier, scarier growlier and industrial type > > psychedelic stuff the better. > > beaubotical > > > > ooOOOH wrote: > > > > > > i agree with nitwit here. I like the fact that this is a low traffic >list. I > > > mean if you're just invinting people that you know sure. But please >dont > > > advertise it on a whole bunch of other lists so we get a flood of >little >16 > > > yo cats. > > > > > > i see what you're getting at tho, in many cases broken beat and >darkstep >is > > > barely distnguishable, but hey, no need to open the floodgates! with >all >due > > > respect, i'd prefer to not have to the same level of traffic as the >g-list! > > > between the gabber list and c8 i can kiss quite a bit of time away, >wading > > > thru it in case i miss something interesting...... > > > > > > One thing which i'd appreciate tho is more reviews from people??? its >quite > > > hard to get darkstep and broken beat stuff here in australia, and all >of >it > > > is thru mail order so a review on here goes a long way for me, and i'm >sure > > > would help others as well! > > > > > > .nacht. > > > > > > atfassaultcru > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Skinner > > > To: darkstep@hyperreal.org > > > Date: Tuesday, 14 December 1999 7:16 > > > Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status > > > > > > > > > > >On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, rando wrote: > > > > > > > >-> Don't invite people from some other list, one of the reasons > > > >-> this list is fantastic is that it is low-volume, mature and > > > >-> covers a variety of Drum and Bass. This is the only DnB list I > > > >-> have ever been on with such a high calibur of talent, > > > >-> intelligence and respect. > > > > > > > >Nah it isnt an invite from another list. It is people I know in the > > > >buz dj's artists and all around fans of the music. > > > > > > > >-> Also, I would be very disheartened to see a predominance of > > > >-> Breakcore and "Darkstep" in discussion, as I think we have a > > > >-> great balance of variety in this list. I consider myself > > > >-> well-educated about the history and progress of the jungle/DnB > > > >-> genre and STILL learn new things from the Darkstep contributors > > > >-> about more industrial related styles(and I hope I tell people a > > > >-> few things they didn't know). > > > > > > > >that is the reason I want to bring more influnces in. since the > > > >Breakcore/Darkstep world is meshing so much with the > > > >brokenbeat/industrial-elctro-noise world. > > > > > > > >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ > > > >| skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | > > > >| ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | > > > >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ > > > >| Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | > > > >| Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | > > > >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ > > > >-Hardcore-Gabber-List- > > > > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber > > > >-Darkstep-DnB-List- > > > > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Dec 14 17:08:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25317 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Dec 1999 17:08:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 25274 invoked from network); 14 Dec 1999 17:08:08 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Dec 1999 17:08:08 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA68292 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 12:08:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 12:08:21 -0500 (EST) From: Skinner To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status In-Reply-To: <3855D319.22791787@direct.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, colin wrote: -> -> http://www.c8.com/tunes/somatics/1.ram Yea if you like somatics. Buy our new record! +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ -Hardcore-Gabber-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber -Darkstep-DnB-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Dec 14 17:10:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26744 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Dec 1999 17:10:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 26633 invoked from network); 14 Dec 1999 17:10:37 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Dec 1999 17:10:37 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA68351 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 12:10:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 12:10:49 -0500 (EST) From: Skinner To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status In-Reply-To: <19991214113736.22297.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, edward heard wrote: -> -> Although I have enjoyed being part of the list, there is more scope for -> weekly play lists and addresses or sites for those hard to find tunes or -> whites. -> Also where is the rest of the UK contingency? -> Nuf respect for brothers (and sisters) over the Atlantic, especially seeing -> playlists for clubs and knowing there is a solid scene. But little is -> mentioned about UK. -> Hope its helpfull 2 u Skinner -> respect -> dj talldred Well parties and weekly's are up to the people who live in that region. Not sure how many limeys ;-p ;-p ;-p are on the list.. But there are a lot of Yanks ;-p. If you or any of the other UK people want to post parties go for it. Its a global list and would bee good to see what parties are like all over the place on a steady basis. -- +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ -Hardcore-Gabber-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber -Darkstep-DnB-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Dec 14 20:40:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29741 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Dec 1999 20:40:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 29703 invoked from network); 14 Dec 1999 20:40:20 -0000 Received: from smtp7.teleport.com (192.108.254.51) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Dec 1999 20:40:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 21132 invoked from network); 14 Dec 1999 20:40:18 -0000 Received: from user2.teleport.com (qmailr@192.108.254.12) by smtp7.teleport.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 1999 20:40:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 634 invoked by uid 6364); 14 Dec 1999 20:40:17 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 12:40:17 -0800 (PST) From: Bri To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) List Status In-Reply-To: <19991214115159.34723.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, edward heard wrote: > > Howz about Dylans new label 'Outbreak' there are two releases on it at the > mo, the names pass me by but are floor fillin darkness. Or so the crowd > thinks when I've played them out. > Chek it > dj talldred The first tune isn't bad in the dylan bassist sort of way but the flipside of that record the one without the label and track info on it is a total konflict ripoff it's really shameless.. Dylan has made some good tunes, check out some of his old stuff on droppping science, . bri From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Dec 15 00:55:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28590 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Dec 1999 00:55:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 28272 invoked from network); 15 Dec 1999 00:55:03 -0000 Received: from mail2.uunet.ca (root@142.77.1.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Dec 1999 00:55:03 -0000 Received: from abenaki.com (cust244.tnt1.dial.mtl1.uunet.ca [209.167.207.244]) by mail2.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <601608-8771>; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 19:53:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3856E97B.740DA9D6@abenaki.com> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 20:06:03 -0500 From: ilL=aT*eAze X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Darkstep Subject: (DARKSTEP) [DARKSTEP] Where can I listen to this??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Any of you listmembers out there know where I can here this track online? Mundo - Stormchaser/Asphalt (Wikiddrama) I think someone on this list produced it>!?! ANyhow.... I'm thinkin of getting it from Resonance but I don't believe they have it in REAL AUDIO ..... Any help is greatly appreciated.. ill From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Dec 15 06:24:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8894 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Dec 1999 06:24:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 8776 invoked from network); 15 Dec 1999 06:24:41 -0000 Received: from law2-f254.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.180.212) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Dec 1999 06:24:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 27208 invoked by uid 0); 15 Dec 1999 06:24:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19991215062414.27207.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 144.92.44.76 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:24:14 PST X-Originating-IP: [144.92.44.76] From: "jon dica!" To: gabber@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org, darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) my top 20. Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:24:14 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) -----------------------------------------------------------------| just because. apologies to anyone who gets this more than once. -----------------------------------------------------------------| abelcain - "necrophilia" [addict] abelcain - "faust ep" [low res] bombardier - "syn" [low res] bombardier - "violence (CD)" [vinyl communication] cativo - "jack knife power bomb" [position chrome] davros - "cum to daddy" [addict] kid 606 - "gq on the eq" [555] metallica - "master of puppets lp" [elektra] ministry - "psalm 69 lp" netas - "sex passage" [bloody fist] phantasy & probe - "orders (dj reality distortion mix)" [easy] psionic pfist phuck "live at furthur 99 (CD)" [no label] ram trilogy - "mindscan (ed rush & optical rmx)" [ram] redeemer - "direct impact" [position chrome] simple minds - "don't you (forget about me)" [a&m] stunt rock - "richard pryor" [addict] UFO! - "primary status 5" [sound sphere] u-ziq - "the hwicci song" [astralwerks] van halen - "hot for teacher" [warner bros] white zombie - "supercharger heaven" [geffen] ........................................................... ....... jon/dica - massive honky - angel of death ....... ........................................................... "The suspect still had the weapon in his hand when police arrived. The weapon at that point was emptied," he added. ........................................................... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Dec 15 06:28:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12318 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Dec 1999 06:27:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 12175 invoked from network); 15 Dec 1999 06:27:21 -0000 Received: from law2-f67.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Dec 1999 06:27:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 99782 invoked by uid 0); 15 Dec 1999 06:26:53 -0000 Message-ID: <19991215062653.99781.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 144.92.44.76 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:26:53 PST X-Originating-IP: [144.92.44.76] From: "jon dica!" To: gabber@hyperreal.org Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org, darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) my top 20. Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:26:53 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) -----------------------------------------------------------------| just because. apologies to anyone who gets this more than once. -----------------------------------------------------------------| abelcain - "necrophilia" [addict] abelcain - "faust ep" [low res] bombardier - "syn" [low res] bombardier - "violence (CD)" [vinyl communication] cativo - "jack knife power bomb" [position chrome] davros - "cum to daddy" [addict] kid 606 - "gq on the eq" [555] metallica - "master of puppets lp" [elektra] ministry - "psalm 69 lp" netas - "sex passage" [bloody fist] phantasy & probe - "orders (dj reality distortion mix)" [easy] psionic pfist phuck "live at furthur 99 (CD)" [no label] ram trilogy - "mindscan (ed rush & optical rmx)" [ram] redeemer - "direct impact" [position chrome] simple minds - "don't you (forget about me)" [a&m] stunt rock - "richard pryor" [addict] UFO! - "primary status 5" [sound sphere] u-ziq - "the hwicci song" [astralwerks] van halen - "hot for teacher" [warner bros] white zombie - "supercharger heaven" [geffen] ........................................................... ....... jon/dica - massive honky - angel of death ....... ........................................................... "The suspect still had the weapon in his hand when police arrived. The weapon at that point was emptied," he added. ........................................................... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Dec 15 10:37:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8609 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Dec 1999 10:37:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 8451 invoked from network); 15 Dec 1999 10:37:46 -0000 Received: from f150.law4.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.149.150) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Dec 1999 10:37:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 54591 invoked by uid 0); 15 Dec 1999 10:37:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19991215103719.54590.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.231.100.106 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:37:19 PST X-Originating-IP: [208.231.100.106] From: "Bob Carr" To: junglist@us-jungle.com Cc: junglemassive@egroups.com, darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) Technical question Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 04:37:19 CST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) I know it's OT, but help a brother out. This is in regards to my mixer, a Vestax 05-Pro, that was purchased 5 months ago and is really pissing me off............ 1)Basically, I've got hiss coming out of my right channel fader (PGM 2)........I switched out the right and left faders to no avail. Problems remains. 2)Used Dust-Off and sprayed the hell out of the innards. Problem remains. 3)Switched carts and decks.......problem remains. 4)Not only do I hear the hiss out of the mains, but it also goes over the phones except when I have the cue fader all the way to the left. 5)Interestingly, when I remove the left RCA cord (white) from the phono 2 in, the hiss becomes louder. Also, when I remove the left RCA cord from the main out, the hiss goes away, but still registers on the LED............. I am quite annoyed by this, especially since this mixer didn't come cheap and of course it's a Vestax, so that about screws me as far as sending the unit into an authorized dealer. If anyone thinks they can help out, just let me know. I'll provide whatever additional assistance I can..........just try to speak English, as I'm a non-techie as far as electronics are concerned....... Thanks in advance and boy do those Ranes look good, BOB ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Dec 15 14:52:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18447 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Dec 1999 14:52:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 18436 invoked from network); 15 Dec 1999 14:52:18 -0000 Received: from smtp-outgoing.amazon.com (209.191.164.153) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Dec 1999 14:52:18 -0000 Received: from mail-proxy-1.amazon.com (mail-proxy-1.amazon.com [10.16.42.201]) by smtp-outgoing.amazon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AADC954 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 06:51:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-proxy-1.amazon.com id GAA24538; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 06:51:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3857AB07.41C6@amazon.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 06:51:51 -0800 From: Ephraim Alexander Organization: Amazon.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) [DARKSTEP] Where can I listen to this??? References: <3856E97B.740DA9D6@abenaki.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Saj will play it for you if you call him.. From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Dec 15 18:02:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11790 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Dec 1999 18:02:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 11649 invoked from network); 15 Dec 1999 18:02:08 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Dec 1999 18:02:08 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA00388 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 13:03:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 13:02:59 -0500 (EST) From: Skinner To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Technical question In-Reply-To: <19991215103719.54590.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, Bob Carr wrote: -> I know it's OT, but help a brother out. This is in regards to my -> mixer, a Vestax 05-Pro, that was purchased 5 months ago and is -> really pissing me off............ Just for the resof the list. Any thing that deals with music production or the art of mixing the music (be it style or gear) is 100% on topic for this list. +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ -Hardcore-Gabber-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber -Darkstep-DnB-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Dec 15 18:09:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20756 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Dec 1999 18:08:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 20358 invoked from network); 15 Dec 1999 18:08:05 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Dec 1999 18:08:05 -0000 Received: from Shirei3000@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id v.0.b77a38dd (4210); Wed, 15 Dec 1999 13:07:32 -0500 (EST) From: Shirei3000@aol.com Message-ID: <0.b77a38dd.258932e3@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 13:07:31 EST Subject: (DARKSTEP) Fwd: (idm) programmer info To: darkstep@hyperreal.org, skinner@skinner.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_0.b77a38dd.258932e3_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) --part1_0.b77a38dd.258932e3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_0.b77a38dd.258932e3_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-za01.mx.aol.com (rly-za01.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.97]) by air-za04.mail.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 13:03:35 -0500 Received: from hyperreal.org (taz.hyperreal.org [209.133.83.16]) by rly-za01.mx.aol.com (v66.4) with ESMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 13:03:22 1900 Received: (qmail 12020 invoked by uid 24); 15 Dec 1999 18:02:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact idm-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list idm@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11930 invoked from network); 15 Dec 1999 18:02:19 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Dec 1999 18:02:19 -0000 Received: from Shirei3000@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id v.0.53827ada (4210) for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 13:01:47 -0500 (EST) From: Shirei3000@aol.com Message-ID: <0.53827ada.2589318b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 13:01:47 EST To: idm@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Subject: (idm) programmer info To any electronic(idm) programmers outthere: I'm currently in school and have taken a visual basic programmer class. My question is this: Which programming language is best to build my own electronic program's? I was thinking that I would like to be able to input inter's, charc's, #'s and have my mac be able to know to get this sample from my ensoniq eps and do a wide range of processes (run a specific audio/midi through recycle,peak,cubase,logic). I understand that to fully explain what I would like to do would be rather lengthy, if there are any programmers out there that have any clue to what I'm talking about please email me any advice, etc. to my non aol address. thanks mark think3000@excite.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --part1_0.b77a38dd.258932e3_boundary-- From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Dec 15 19:50:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12659 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Dec 1999 19:50:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 12561 invoked from network); 15 Dec 1999 19:50:48 -0000 Received: from newshub1-work.home.com (24.0.0.24) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Dec 1999 19:50:48 -0000 Received: from cx88302-A ([209.125.118.137]) by newshub1-work.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19991215195042.EQGG8483.newshub1-work.home.com@cx88302-A> for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:50:42 -0800 Message-ID: <00a801bf4735$9dfff7a0$0664a8c0@cx88302-A.onelinkri.com> From: "...zero" To: Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Technical question Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:50:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) A hiss or a hum? Most noise is caused by bad power or bad grounding. If your turntables aren't securely fastened to the grounding lugs on the mixer, you're gonna get some noise. Do you get hiss even when everything is unplugged from the mixer? (Just headphones?) Also, most mixers will get hiss if you crank the fader up to 10...so don't do that. Hiss is tough to fix. A lower hum is usually power/grounding. cosinezero . ._ _ |"Hooray, I say, for the end of the world, . \ / \ /| Hooray, I say, for the end of it all..." .--|---|---|---|-+--------------------------------------[+] . \_/ \_/ | cosine@home.com .T......-1.......0 UIN# - 30856027 . . -----Original Message----- From: Bob Carr To: junglist@us-jungle.com Cc: junglemassive@egroups.com ; darkstep@hyperreal.org Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 5:38 AM Subject: (DARKSTEP) Technical question : :I know it's OT, but help a brother out. This is in regards to my mixer, a :Vestax 05-Pro, that was purchased 5 months ago and is really pissing me :off............ : :1)Basically, I've got hiss coming out of my right channel fader (PGM :2)........I switched out the right and left faders to no avail. Problems :remains. : :2)Used Dust-Off and sprayed the hell out of the innards. Problem remains. : :3)Switched carts and decks.......problem remains. : :4)Not only do I hear the hiss out of the mains, but it also goes over the :phones except when I have the cue fader all the way to the left. : :5)Interestingly, when I remove the left RCA cord (white) from the phono 2 :in, the hiss becomes louder. Also, when I remove the left RCA cord from the :main out, the hiss goes away, but still registers on the LED............. : :I am quite annoyed by this, especially since this mixer didn't come cheap :and of course it's a Vestax, so that about screws me as far as sending the :unit into an authorized dealer. If anyone thinks they can help out, just let :me know. I'll provide whatever additional assistance I can..........just try :to speak English, as I'm a non-techie as far as electronics are :concerned....... : :Thanks in advance and boy do those Ranes look good, :BOB :______________________________________________________ :Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com : : From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Dec 15 20:02:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27068 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Dec 1999 20:02:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 26879 invoked from network); 15 Dec 1999 20:02:28 -0000 Received: from smtp8.teleport.com (192.108.254.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Dec 1999 20:02:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 13245 invoked from network); 15 Dec 1999 20:02:22 -0000 Received: from user2.teleport.com (qmailr@192.108.254.12) by smtp8.teleport.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 1999 20:02:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 29832 invoked by uid 6364); 15 Dec 1999 20:02:21 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 12:02:20 -0800 (PST) From: Bri To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: 3 channels vs 2 Re: (DARKSTEP) Technical question In-Reply-To: <00a801bf4735$9dfff7a0$0664a8c0@cx88302-A.onelinkri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) On the same topic, considering buying a new mixer cuz my vestax is a POS and I was wondering how many people seriousley use more then 2 channels? I'm eyeing this rane that's super sweet makes my panties wet (www.rane.com/ttm54.htm) but it's only 2 channels so it's holdin me back on gettin it.. thoghts ? bri From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Dec 15 20:10:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11292 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Dec 1999 20:10:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 11248 invoked from network); 15 Dec 1999 20:10:51 -0000 Received: from mail2.uunet.ca (root@142.77.1.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Dec 1999 20:10:51 -0000 Received: from abenaki.com (cust31.tnt1.dial.mtl1.uunet.ca [209.167.207.31]) by mail2.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <602383-2190>; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 15:09:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3857F86A.B6C0F9B0@abenaki.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 15:22:02 -0500 From: ilL=aT*eAze X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 3 channels vs 2 Re: (DARKSTEP) Technical question References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) I used to have the vestax05 that this guy ws talking about.... I stepped down to a Vestax17A.. it's cheaper, has a better EQ. and has a shitload of inputs (mic/line/phono) and fx sends...... I dunno if it will make your panties wet but you'll have some spare change in yer pocket Bri wrote: > On the same topic, considering buying a new mixer cuz my vestax is a POS > and I was wondering how many people seriousley use more then 2 channels? > > I'm eyeing this rane that's super sweet makes my panties wet > (www.rane.com/ttm54.htm) but it's only 2 channels so it's holdin me back > on gettin it.. > > thoghts ? > > bri From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Dec 15 21:52:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9140 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Dec 1999 21:52:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 9130 invoked from network); 15 Dec 1999 21:52:19 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Dec 1999 21:52:19 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA01897 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:53:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:53:11 -0500 (EST) From: Skinner To: DarkStep Mailing List Subject: (DARKSTEP) Non-member submission from [DLG@marsgraf-x.com] (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) This bounced... but some of you who are looking for any gear here is someone selling a few things. ---------------------fwd message---------------- From: DLG@marsgraf-x.com To: Subject: for sale Whats up everyone .. Im trying to get rid of some gear if interested.. please feel free to make and offer-- price wise-- also willing to swap/trade please email me privatly @ DLG@marsgraf-x.com -- roland mc303 roland xp-10 vestax pmc-05 pro --- Dave L. Goodwin D.L.G (Supercharged-Scribe Graphics) http://move.to/supercharged 88.1 WMCR RPM DIRECTOR Poughkeepsie NY --Email-- DLG@marsgraf-x.com --Chat-- AOLIM: DLG203 ICQ: 30613436 From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 16 04:58:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13577 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Dec 1999 04:58:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 13545 invoked from network); 16 Dec 1999 04:58:49 -0000 Received: from law-f202.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.112) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Dec 1999 04:58:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 37364 invoked by uid 0); 16 Dec 1999 04:58:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19991216045822.37363.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.22.183.171 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 20:58:21 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.22.183.171] From: "jason mundo" To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) Re: [DARKSTEP] Where can I listen to this???Mundo StormchaserAsphalt Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 20:58:21 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Yes that's my record. one of my great flaws exposed... I need to get my website up with some RA and MP3 going... Places that do or did have RA for "Stormchaser/Asphalt" www.groovetech.com (told me they were going to have RA of it) www.planetxusa.com (search under Mundo) satellite records nyc webstore had a RA link breakbeatscience might have had a RA link. fuzzylogik.com DOES have a good RA link. Its cut nice and loud so no worries there. :) Let me know if there are any other questions. Thanks, Mundo (jason mundo) Wikiddrama Recordings-Dallas > >Any of you listmembers out there know where I can here this track online? >Mundo - Stormchaser/Asphalt (Wikiddrama) >I think someone on this list produced it>!?! ANyhow.... I'm thinkin of >getting >it from Resonance but I don't believe they have it in REAL AUDIO ..... Any >help >is greatly appreciated.. >ill > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 16 05:16:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24136 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Dec 1999 05:16:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 24037 invoked from network); 16 Dec 1999 05:15:55 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Dec 1999 05:15:55 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA04188 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 00:16:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 00:16:45 -0500 (EST) From: Skinner To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Re: [DARKSTEP] Where can I listen to this???Mundo StormchaserAsphalt In-Reply-To: <19991216045822.37363.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, jason mundo wrote: -> www.planetxusa.com (search under Mundo) *cough*great store*cough* -- +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ -Hardcore-Gabber-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber -Darkstep-DnB-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 16 08:36:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15369 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Dec 1999 08:36:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 15362 invoked from network); 16 Dec 1999 08:36:45 -0000 Received: from f106.law4.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.149.106) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Dec 1999 08:36:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 31617 invoked by uid 0); 16 Dec 1999 08:36:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19991216083618.31616.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.231.100.191 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 00:36:18 PST X-Originating-IP: [208.231.100.191] From: "Bob Carr" To: junglist@us-jungle.com Cc: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) Track I.D. Well, sorta'...... Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 02:36:18 CST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) For some strange reason, "Lifespan/Crisis" by Ed Rush & Opti is beginning to become more and more a cherished record in my collection. I hate to get all "BBS" on y'all, but does anyone know of any other tunes with this same feel??? Kinda' "minimal-mid-tempo-techy" stuff??? Layta, BOB P.S.--I think "Anaconda" off of the TWISTED SOUNDSCAPES VOL. 1 has this same sorta' feel to it........ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 16 15:43:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8652 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Dec 1999 15:43:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 8421 invoked from network); 16 Dec 1999 15:43:40 -0000 Received: from web2903.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.46) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Dec 1999 15:43:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 19126 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Dec 1999 15:43:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19991216154339.19125.qmail@web2903.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.214.147.2] by web2903.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 07:43:39 PST Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 07:43:39 -0800 (PST) From: rando Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Track I.D. Well, sorta'...... To: darkstep@hyperreal.org, junglist@us-jungle.com Cc: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Hey Bob, I have to agree with you. Great piece of vinyl. Virus really just can't be stopped. A few things I thought I might suggest that I dig on: The purple Live records alblum that came out like 4 months ago, I can't remember shit about it as I sit here at work. All I know is that it has a pixelated image of a reel to reel recorder on the front and has tunes by two different artists, I think one of them was DJ Trend?!?. The tune Konflict on Waqt records (a german trance label), no relation to Konflict of R.H. fame. This one is dark and deep with a great women's vocal that has a real psycidelic feel. awesome tune very much like what you are describing. Lastly, although this may a little rougher than what you are decribing, Contortion by the suspects, it is the flip of the killabees. That tune got totally overlooked because everyone caned the killabees side. But this tune is awesome, it has bass hits on beats one two and three followed by a snare on the four, kind of like the medicine remix, (btw the med rmx mixes out of it perfectly) 2cents, rando --- Bob Carr wrote: > > For some strange reason, "Lifespan/Crisis" by Ed Rush & Opti is > beginning to > become more and more a cherished record in my collection. > > I hate to get all "BBS" on y'all, but does anyone know of any other > tunes > with this same feel??? Kinda' "minimal-mid-tempo-techy" stuff??? > > Layta, > BOB > > P.S.--I think "Anaconda" off of the TWISTED SOUNDSCAPES VOL. 1 has > this same > sorta' feel to it........ > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ===== randy j shepherd AKA rando the|black|lodge EGO.SITES http://jungle.ffwd.com/advance <---------------------------- http://www.transcasts.com *live sets* http://members.tripod.com/~endlesspage *band* http://www.newzwire.com/events/boston/elements.html *pic* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 16 15:43:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8846 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Dec 1999 15:43:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 8420 invoked from network); 16 Dec 1999 15:43:40 -0000 Received: from web2903.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.46) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Dec 1999 15:43:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 19126 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Dec 1999 15:43:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19991216154339.19125.qmail@web2903.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.214.147.2] by web2903.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 07:43:39 PST Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 07:43:39 -0800 (PST) From: rando Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Track I.D. Well, sorta'...... To: darkstep@hyperreal.org, junglist@us-jungle.com Cc: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Hey Bob, I have to agree with you. Great piece of vinyl. Virus really just can't be stopped. A few things I thought I might suggest that I dig on: The purple Live records alblum that came out like 4 months ago, I can't remember shit about it as I sit here at work. All I know is that it has a pixelated image of a reel to reel recorder on the front and has tunes by two different artists, I think one of them was DJ Trend?!?. The tune Konflict on Waqt records (a german trance label), no relation to Konflict of R.H. fame. This one is dark and deep with a great women's vocal that has a real psycidelic feel. awesome tune very much like what you are describing. Lastly, although this may a little rougher than what you are decribing, Contortion by the suspects, it is the flip of the killabees. That tune got totally overlooked because everyone caned the killabees side. But this tune is awesome, it has bass hits on beats one two and three followed by a snare on the four, kind of like the medicine remix, (btw the med rmx mixes out of it perfectly) 2cents, rando --- Bob Carr wrote: > > For some strange reason, "Lifespan/Crisis" by Ed Rush & Opti is > beginning to > become more and more a cherished record in my collection. > > I hate to get all "BBS" on y'all, but does anyone know of any other > tunes > with this same feel??? Kinda' "minimal-mid-tempo-techy" stuff??? > > Layta, > BOB > > P.S.--I think "Anaconda" off of the TWISTED SOUNDSCAPES VOL. 1 has > this same > sorta' feel to it........ > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ===== randy j shepherd AKA rando the|black|lodge EGO.SITES http://jungle.ffwd.com/advance <---------------------------- http://www.transcasts.com *live sets* http://members.tripod.com/~endlesspage *band* http://www.newzwire.com/events/boston/elements.html *pic* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Dec 17 02:01:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21314 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Dec 1999 02:01:59 -0000 Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Received: (qmail 21125 invoked from network); 17 Dec 1999 02:01:50 -0000 Received: from edam.direct.ca (@199.60.229.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Dec 1999 02:01:50 -0000 Received: from mut-53-0149.direct.ca ([216.66.132.49] helo=direct.ca) by edam.direct.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #21) id 11ymiE-0005Fb-00; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 18:01:43 -0800 Message-ID: <38599B31.C672E1A1@direct.ca> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 18:08:49 -0800 From: colin Organization: http://www.mediacore.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: (DARKSTEP) shoutcast: Cav w/ Illeesha Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Haitch Cee wrote: > > tonight (thurs) @ 1am -> dawn (PST) > CiTR 101.9fm vancoova and shoutcast > plutonian nights > > shoutcast/info available via http://sine.ranch.org/pluto (on zilTV) > > tonights show: > > 1am -> 3:30am - cav [rfa] w/ illesha - breakcore plus - seattle > > 3:30am -> 4:30am - ? mystery guest ? > > 4:30am -> dawn - haitch vs tekzilla - codeine mouthwash g'n'p - pluto > > (900mg acetaminophen . 90mg codeine . 45mg caffeine . 46711mg pacman) no piracetam? ;-) > show updates ICQ# 48931963 > > phone lines open during show @ (604)822-2487 > > cheers =) > rich > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > haitch c soundcraft / sinesite: http://sine.ranch.org > s i n u s o i d a l \ email: sine@ranch.org > records / bc.canada / artists. mp3s. realaudio. forums. > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > plutonian nights radio show -+- http://sine.ranch.org/pluto -- colin http://www.mediacore.org/~clone http://mp3.com/sonicatharsis np: http://www.loudnet.com/soundbooth/dillingerescapeplan-43percentburnt.ram From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Dec 17 02:43:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2025 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Dec 1999 02:43:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 1939 invoked from network); 17 Dec 1999 02:42:33 -0000 Received: from law-f229.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Dec 1999 02:42:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 57803 invoked by uid 0); 17 Dec 1999 02:42:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19991217024204.57802.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.139.29.1 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 18:42:03 PST X-Originating-IP: [207.139.29.1] From: "Yves S" To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) Sony rip off Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 18:42:03 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Hey, I'm aware that this is not a "techno music" list but I think it does concern all of us in a way so I though to let you know people Maybe it's a good opportunity to try to make a difference... Check this out, I still can't believe it... Spread the word... ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- >From: "Cornelius Harris" >Subject: (313) Underground Resistance vs Sony, Round 1 >This will be news to some of you. For others, you've heard some >rumors. >Recently, UR (Underground Resistance) has enjoyed the success of >the track, "Knights of the Jaguar" by DJ Rolando. Recognizing that UR (Mad >Mike, in particular) would be unwilling to license the track, Sony >bypassed even making a request and has decided to release a "cover" version >titled "Jaguar." Unconfirmed reports even indicate that promotional >information on the records imply that it is a UR release. Cover versions >traditionally have been done by fans of the original track as an homage to >the >original. In this case, it is being done as a method of undercutting the >sales of the original. >While this is an unethical and unprincipled act in and of itself, >it is also a very dangerous act. In doing this, a major label, Sony, has >determined that it has the right to stomp all over an independent label in >its pursuit of profits. With this as a precedent, the question that should >concern any and everybody in the music community is who will be next? It >is >imperative that Sony be held accountable for its actions. We are currently >looking into whatever legal options we have as well as any other means to >put an end to this. We urge all concerned individuals to flood Sony's >offices worldwide with calls, emails, and faxes expressing those >concerns. This kind of crap has to stop and it has to stop now. >Anyone with any ideas, comments, addresses, or suggestions, >please let me know. Some basic info follows. Any media folks, contact me >privately. If anything could get Mad Mike out in the open, well...contact >me. >Peace, >Cornelius Harris >Underground Resistance ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- let's fight back... It's those corporate fuckers that kill the spirit of the music and the scene, it could happen to any "scene". Please, lets get involve... You can sign the pro-UR statement at: http://mycal.net/ifj/ur/ Yves, ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Dec 17 05:12:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28125 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Dec 1999 05:12:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 28108 invoked from network); 17 Dec 1999 05:12:19 -0000 Received: from smtp-gateway.com (vipserve@192.41.26.75) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Dec 1999 05:12:19 -0000 Received: from andythepooh.com (ehdup-v-22.rmt.net.pitt.edu [136.142.24.32]) by smtp-gateway.com (8.8.5) id WAA10590; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 22:11:56 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3859C62E.5A47DE56@andythepooh.com> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 00:12:14 -0500 From: "death?!?! to false metal" Organization: Pillow Biting Sissies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Sony rip off References: <19991217024204.57802.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) a friend of mine put up a "fuck sony" website. check the url. he actually got a message from one of the UR guys thanking him for it. www.fyi.net/~frisket/ tom Yves S wrote: > > Hey, > I'm aware that this is not a "techno music" list but I think it does concern > all of us in a way so I though to let you know people > Maybe it's a good opportunity to try to make a difference... > Check this out, I still can't believe it... > Spread the word... > ----------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > >From: "Cornelius Harris" > > >Subject: (313) Underground Resistance vs Sony, Round 1 > > >This will be news to some of you. For others, you've heard some > >rumors. > > >Recently, UR (Underground Resistance) has enjoyed the success of > >the track, "Knights of the Jaguar" by DJ Rolando. Recognizing that UR (Mad > >Mike, in particular) would be unwilling to license the track, Sony > >bypassed even making a request and has decided to release a "cover" version > >titled "Jaguar." Unconfirmed reports even indicate that promotional > >information on the records imply that it is a UR release. Cover versions > >traditionally have been done by fans of the original track as an homage to > >the > >original. In this case, it is being done as a method of undercutting the > >sales of the original. > > >While this is an unethical and unprincipled act in and of itself, > >it is also a very dangerous act. In doing this, a major label, Sony, has > >determined that it has the right to stomp all over an independent label in > >its pursuit of profits. With this as a precedent, the question that should > >concern any and everybody in the music community is who will be next? It > >is > >imperative that Sony be held accountable for its actions. We are currently > >looking into whatever legal options we have as well as any other means to > >put an end to this. We urge all concerned individuals to flood Sony's > >offices worldwide with calls, emails, and faxes expressing those > >concerns. This kind of crap has to stop and it has to stop now. > > >Anyone with any ideas, comments, addresses, or suggestions, > >please let me know. Some basic info follows. Any media folks, contact me > >privately. If anything could get Mad Mike out in the open, well...contact > >me. > > >Peace, > >Cornelius Harris > >Underground Resistance > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > let's fight back... > It's those corporate fuckers that kill the spirit of the music > and the scene, it could happen to any "scene". > > Please, lets get involve... > > You can sign the pro-UR statement at: > http://mycal.net/ifj/ur/ > > Yves, > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Dec 17 08:21:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5395 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Dec 1999 08:21:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 5374 invoked from network); 17 Dec 1999 08:21:11 -0000 Received: from mail1.registeredsite.com (root@209.35.159.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Dec 1999 08:21:11 -0000 Received: from mail.marsgraf-x.com (mail.marsgraf-x.com [209.35.31.78]) by mail1.registeredsite.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA11594 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 03:24:24 -0500 Received: from oemcomputer [63.23.218.244] by mail.marsgraf-x.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A376283000C0; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 03:25:26 -0500 Message-ID: <000e01bf4881$505e4680$f4da173f@oemcomputer> From: "Ron Jones" To: References: <19991217024204.57802.qmail@hotmail.com> <3859C62E.5A47DE56@andythepooh.com> Subject: (DARKSTEP) Computer producers....Brand new p3 processor for sale... Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 03:24:40 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Hello all....I don't want to be an advertiser for Pentiums or anything but however since I know alot of people on this list use their computers for music production I thought this offer may sound good to some of you. A good friend of mine is selling his brand new processor still in the box. It's a Pentium III 533 with 133mHz bus speed and the going rate is 200 dollars (bought it at $400). It is a superior processor that would be perfect for music(that what he intended to use it for). The reason he is selling it is because he is obsessed with having the best. He bought it when he originally bought the first third of his computer about a month ago. When he completed all of the purchasing for his new computer he realized that he was already going to be using an outdated processor. Then a firend offered him a deal on one of the latest processors for 200(wholesale)bucks hence the price of the one he is selling. If any of you are interested just send me an e-mail at Ron@marsgraf-x.com. He lives in Patchogue NY just so you know. I'm sure you'd probably want to see it in person if you are interested in buying it. Thanks for your time.....Peace....Ron From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Dec 17 16:25:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13734 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Dec 1999 16:25:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 13542 invoked from network); 17 Dec 1999 16:25:12 -0000 Received: from andythepooh.com (nuggets@209.176.26.206) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Dec 1999 16:25:12 -0000 Received: from [209.114.167.103] by andythepooh.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A42C570392; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 11:26:20 -0500 Message-ID: <004701bf48c5$cc977b60$67a772d1@.pitt.edu> From: "doctor cutup" To: , , Subject: (DARKSTEP) ***DIRECTIONS TO CHAOTIC TRANSDIMENSION ** Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 11:34:53 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Its tonight @ the Irish Center! $10 for plenty of good music. Try to get there early, because the owners of the field under the bridge are charging $2 to park. If you park on the street - stay away from the bend, and make sure to park solidly off the road over the white line. If you know how to get there - show up @ 9 - the music will be bumpin end to end. Otherwise - here's how to get there - Take FORBES out of Downtown Pittsburgh (go EAST). { you will go through: an old neighborhood, you will go past: PITT, a dinosaur [to your RT], and CMU, prepare to turn} Turn RIGHT onto MURRAY Avenue. Turn LEFT onto FORWARD Avenue. Proceed on FORWARD for approximately 1.2 miles. Venue Address is: 6886 Forward Avenue [IRISH CENTRE] >Access PENNSYLVANIA TURNPIKE (Portions toll). Take the I-376 WEST/US-22 exit, exit number 6, towards PITTSBURGH. Keep LEFT at the fork in the ramp. Keep RIGHT at the fork in the ramp. Merge onto US-22 W/I-376 W. US-22 W/I-376 W becomes US-22 W/US-30 W/I-376 W. Take the exit, exit number 8, towards SQUIRREL HILL/HOMESTEAD. Turn LEFT at the SQUIRREL HILL sign. {look for fluor sign} The street will TRANSFORM into FORWARD AVENUE magically. RESET Trip-Odometer at Stop-Light. [MURRAY AND FORWARD] Proceed for approximately 1.2 miles. Venue Address is: 6886 Forward Avenue [IRISH CENTRE] >Access US-22 E/US-30 E/I-279 N. US-22 E/US-30 E/I-279 N becomes US-22 E/US-19/US-30 E. Stay straight to go onto US-22 E/US-30 E/I-279 N. Take the I-376 EAST/US-22 EAST/US-30 EAST exit, exit number 8. Merge onto US-22 E/US-30 E/I-376 E. Turn LEFT at the SQUIRREL HILL sign. {look for fluor sign} The street will TRANSFORM into FORWARD AVENUE . RESET Trip-Odometer at Stop-Light. [MURRAY AND FOWARD] Proceed for approximately 1.2 miles. Venue Address is: 6886 Forward Avenue [IRISH CENTRE] > ___chaotic transdimEnsion___ > friday, dEcEmbEr 17th, 1999 > > with. > > SUBCODE * phunkatech, san francisco > west-coast drum + bass encryption > > DEADLY BUDA * deadly systems, boulder > dddeadly, bu-da-bu-bu-da, wildstyle hardcore > > BOMBARDIER * low res/vinyl communications, minneapolis > hybrid drum + bass punk noise live PA > > FARMER T boosted/beatcamp, miami > GRRL 13 * boosted/beatcamp, miami > riot girl blast beats > > THE INSTIGATOR * hypervinyl, pittsburgh > underground electro > > PARVELUS INFECTUS * pittsburgh > dark electro industrial manipulation > > ARIA * columbus > intelligent jungle > > BAGEL & ALASKA bulletproof, pittsburgh > get ready of the incyders > > charge. $10 US! > information. 412.734.8334 > water bottles will be a low 50 cents! > be prepared to sweat. > > > > > > > > From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 20 21:03:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7988 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Dec 1999 21:03:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 7805 invoked from network); 20 Dec 1999 21:03:42 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Dec 1999 21:03:42 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA44375; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:04:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:04:04 -0500 (EST) From: Skinner To: foobar@skinner.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) Optical (laser) Turntable. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Yea that is right an Optical Turntable. Granted 20K USD is out of most people's price range. But for any audiphiles or people into technology, it is something neat to read about. So here is the link to the manuf site http://www.elpj.com/ -- +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ -Hardcore-Gabber-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber -Darkstep-DnB-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 20 21:11:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17528 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Dec 1999 21:11:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 17305 invoked from network); 20 Dec 1999 21:11:28 -0000 Received: from smtp-gateway.com (vipserve@192.41.26.75) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Dec 1999 21:11:28 -0000 Received: from andythepooh.com (ehdup-c3-11.rmt.net.pitt.edu [136.142.20.181]) by smtp-gateway.com (8.8.5) id OAA26650; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:11:13 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <385E9B7B.603AA3AC@andythepooh.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:11:23 -0500 From: "death?!?! to false metal" Organization: Pasty Black Separatists X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: breaks , darkstep list Subject: (DARKSTEP) tunes out this week.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) first off: matrix's album isnt on juno. does anyone know if its actually going to come out before the new year? anyway, i wanna know what these tunes are like..... TWINTONE: The Ambush/Fearless Calypso (ASF) (MP3) (Position Chrome 12": EFA 060966 [4.75]) SRD KEMAL: Animation/Mechanizm (ASF) (MP3) (Architex 12": ARX 005 [4.75]) Vinyl DEF KEY: Cardio/The Edge (ASF) (MP3) (NX Beat 12": NB 002 [4.75]) Vinyl CALYX vs THE BOMBDROPPERS: Once In Our Lifetime (remix) (ASF) (MP3) (Rugged Vinyl 12": RUGGED 25 [4.85]) Alphamagic BLUE SONIX: The Devil Inside EP: The Devil Inside/Connections/Symphony/Funk Therapy (ASF) (MP3) (New Identity double 12": NIR 012 [8.99]) SRD EYE D: Evil Eye/Enemies (ASF) (MP3) (Def Wish 12": DEF 3 [4.99]) Fuse i really liked that one bue sonix 12" i have. and i also still dig NX beat 001. and i assume the kemal is very similar to konflict's stuff. and im definitely amped to get: DYLAN & FACS: Cazmz (remix) (ASF) (MP3) (XXX UK 1-sided 10": XXX 001 [4.45]) SRD BIOSTACIS: Gamma Ray/Menace (Technical Itch co-production) (ASF) (MP3) (Technical Itch 12": TI 025 [4.45]) SRD DRUMSOUND: Mastermind/Maestro (ASF) (MP3) (Tribe 12": TRIBE 13 [4.45]) SRD though i thought for sure that biostacis was just mark caro himself? tom From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 20 22:34:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23890 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Dec 1999 22:34:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 23837 invoked from network); 20 Dec 1999 22:34:24 -0000 Received: from mail.surffi.net (HELO bigbang.surffi.net) (root@212.63.28.42) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Dec 1999 22:34:24 -0000 Received: from lizard (taotao@line36.dial.surffi.net [212.63.29.56]) by bigbang.surffi.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA06611 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 00:34:57 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <385F3830.1BDB@surffi.net> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 00:20:00 -0800 From: daezf X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Sony rip off References: <19991217024204.57802.qmail@hotmail.com> <3859C62E.5A47DE56@andythepooh.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) heres an aswer from sony A&R worker (read asshole) ----------------- Mike & Rolando, unfortunately you were not able to get back to me personally. Some direct words from you to us could have avoided a lot of misunderstandings, wrong suspicions and excitement causing damage to both sides. Obviously you think, that it is our aim to make UR customers buy Sony records. Kind of paradoxical. We don?t share your point of view that a cover version of Jaguar makes you sell less records. The people interested in your original vinyl are way different to Sony buyers. People who have bought UR records will still buy UR records. In the past days we have received a lot of feedback from the underground to our cover. Apart from some people just abusing Sony Music with 4-letter words, many people express their feelings in a detailed and reasonable style. We understand that you generally disagree with the whole major company business. In this case Sony can be reproached for picking up someone elses idea for profit reasons without taking care of the attitude of the inventor. We realize, that even that we are save on the legal side and the reactions from the ?overground? to our version are euphoric, its commercial release would cause a damage to the relationship of the industry to the underground that could not be compensated. We see ourselves as a company supporting and benefitting from inventive artists. Instead of trying to benefit from the huge buzz that has been created, we have decided to respect your attitude and declare that we will not work any further on the Jaguar cover. Sony Music will not commercially release the track rather on CD maxi or compilations. We are quite sure, that a different company will use the idea and milk the cashcow. We are sorry that we have hurt your feelings. Finally at least the UR record will benefit from the story. We wish you good luck and a lot of sales for this classic piece of music. Regards Dirk Dreyer A&R Manager Sony Music Dance Divsion -------- long live the underground! deaxzfuixzdk http://www.surffi.net/~shagrat/ctx/index.htm From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 20 22:52:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7966 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Dec 1999 22:52:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 7781 invoked from network); 20 Dec 1999 22:52:07 -0000 Received: from mail.surffi.net (HELO bigbang.surffi.net) (root@212.63.28.42) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Dec 1999 22:52:07 -0000 Received: from lizard (taotao@line36.dial.surffi.net [212.63.29.56]) by bigbang.surffi.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA13442 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 00:52:40 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <385F3C59.3BAE@surffi.net> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 00:37:45 -0800 From: daezf X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) i need records! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) you people are prolly tired to this kinda questions, but im new to the list and _need_ to know any records that are somewhat similar to the panacea's "low profile darkness" -album. ive already sneaked out some labels which sounded nice (gyration, praxis, ambush etc) but unfortunately havent been able to listen any releases from them. so if anyone know any sites with mp3 or wavs (i cant listen to ra's due to my sucky compu) please let me know. but more important to me is to know where can i buy these darkcore/whatever vinyls. i live in finland and have very limited possibilities to find any proper stuff (expect by accident every now and then). so if you know any really good netstores with large backatalogues let me know. also if someone is interested in finnish dnb-skene i can only tell you its dead. its really 'overground', commercial and cheesy. there is no hardcore skene of any kind (except at the punk-side). we (kohina) are gonna organise parties called "s=E4rky" [its a finnish word and means pain, but in a wicked way - were only gonna play sick and dark musik there - from elektro to terror/noisecore] and that is why i need those records so urgently. im playing drum+bass there. if this mail doesnt make any sense, it has something to do with my current mental state (which is quite happy and restless, alto tired) and with the fact that english aint my homelanguage. = write me bak. ok :) dexzfdcczyr. From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Dec 21 09:48:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3633 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Dec 1999 09:48:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 3626 invoked from network); 21 Dec 1999 09:48:11 -0000 Received: from www.inx.de (exim@195.21.255.251) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Dec 1999 09:48:11 -0000 Received: from n36-38.berlin.snafu.de ([195.21.36.38]) by www.inx.de with smtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 120Ltg-0003Kp-00 for darkstep@hyperreal.org; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:48:04 +0100 Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) i need records! Date: Tue, 21 Dec 99 10:48:10 +0200 From: !!!?! To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) >but more important to me is to know where can i buy these >darkcore/whatever vinyls. i live in finland and have very limited >possibilities to find any proper stuff (expect by accident every now and >then). so if you know any really good netstores with large backatalogues >let me know. check http://i.am/hotf (with online-listings) or http://www.digitalworldnet.com (ask for catalogue at their e-mail) From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Dec 22 07:16:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21982 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Dec 1999 07:16:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 21974 invoked from network); 22 Dec 1999 07:16:50 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Dec 1999 07:16:50 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA04462 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 02:18:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 02:18:00 -0500 (EST) From: Skinner To: DarkStep Mailing List Subject: (DARKSTEP) |ADMIN| Year in Review Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Well people, When I started this little community back in the start of the year, I never thought it would grow this big and be this great. 144 members on our little darkstep list.. I have yet to deal with any BS. This list has been solid, thanks to the fact that each and every member here comits a solid intelligent and mature outlook into the list. I hope we continue to grow as a communit and stay solid due to our common dedication do the Dark Side of Breaks... May the DnB and BreakCore/BrokenBeat live on........ Below is the the Faw File and I take it upon myself a few times a year to mail out the files for each list that I admin... Give it a read if you care, it is on our website... If you feel something should be added please let me know. I am also intrested in hearing any feedback from you all on things to add to make make things better.. And as always I welcome gifts, Sacrfices, and cute girls wanting to fed-ex themsevels to me.... Have a good Holiday and NYE... I am sure I will Post, But if not I am giving my greetings to all.. For those of you who celibrate happy whatever, X-mas ,chunnaka, Kwuanza, Winter Soltice for you pagans... and a early happy x-mas to my fellow Orthodox people, even tho we got 2 weeks till Jan 6th :) *** FAQ *** THE DARKSTEP MAILING LIST Welcome to the darkstep mailing list, where the topics are all aspects of the harder and faster, darker kinds of drum n bass & industrial broken beat noise and breakcore. The list administrators is skinner@skinner.org Following is a small list of answers to frequently asked questions related to the darkstep list administration procedures and netiquette. Please read before you post to the list! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- How do I get on the list? If you haven't already joined the list, you may do so by sending the word "subscribe" by itself in the body of a message to either darkstep-request@hyperreal.org or darkstep-digest-request@hyperreal.org depending on whether you want to receive individual messages as they are posted (darkstep-request) or periodic 20K digests of accumulated postings (darkstep-digest-request). --- How do I get off the list? Send the word "unsubscribe" by itself in the body of a message to either darkstep-request@hyperreal.org or darkstep-digest-request@hyperreal.org depending on whether you were subscribed to the normal (darkstep-request) or digest version (darkstep-digest-request). Send the mail from the same address you used to subscribe to the list. More assistance with the list server can be obtained by sending mail to majordomo@hyperreal.org with "help" by itself in the message body. --- How do I post a message to the list? Send your message to darkstep@hyperreal.org and it will be forwarded to all the subscribers of the darkstep list. Post to this address even if you are on the darkstep-digest list. Note: you must be subscribed to the darkstep or darkstep-digest list in order to post to it. All messages sent to the address above will also be added to the darkstep-digest queue. When 20 kilobytes worth of messages accumulate in the queue, they will all be packaged into one long message called a digest. The digest will then be sent to all the subscribers who are on the darkstep-digest list. There is no need to be on both the message-by- message list and the periodic digest list, because the content is the same. Please make sure you post messages to darkstep@hyperreal.org. Some email software uses the wrong return address when sending replies; you may need to edit the "To:" field. If you accidentally send mail to darkstep-owner, it may not ever show up on the list. And you must send only plain text, with no attachments, to the list. Some email software such as Outlook Express or Netscape Communicator/Mail may default to sending your mail out as "text/html" rather than "text/plain". Make whatever changes are necessary to ensure that your outgoing mail is not specially encoded. Look for a "plain text" or "7 bit" option. Again, do not send attachments to the list. --- Why have I been removed from the list? If mail cannot be delivered to your email address for even a short period of time, you may be dropped from the list without notification, and you will have to re-subscribe using the instructions above. This is especially true for AOL users who let their mailbox get full. --- Other administrativa & netiquette: - The Darkstep list is a very specific forum. General questions not related to darkstep music should be posted to other forums. Spams, get-rich-quick schemes, commercial advertising, virus alerts, alerts and calls-to- action of a political nature, harrassment, or any other disruptive, off-topic posts will not be tolerated. - Before replying to all the list, think first about whether your reply is of interest to everyone or just the person who wrote the message. Your mailreader (such as PINE) will usually ask you if you want to "Reply to all recipients"; by answering "No", your mail will be sent to the original sender of the message only. - If you're answering a question then it's a good idea to check the rest of your mail first to see if it's been answered by somebody else already. - Personal advertising is acceptable as long as it's for things that are related to the list, such as secondhand records. However, if you've got a long list of items then it's better to just post a short note asking people to mail you for the full list. - Do trim excess quoted material from replies. There is never any need to quote someone else's entire message in your reply. Digest subscribers need to be especially careful to not accidentally attach large segments of the previous digest to their replies, and to edit the Subject line. - Big signatures at the bottom of messages waste space and soon get irritating. 3-4 lines is ideal. - If you've posted a message once and got no response then don't keep on posting again and again hoping that you'll get an answer. The lack of response usually means that nobody can help. - Writing ALL IN CAPITALS is considered by people to be the same as shouting. Writing in lower case is much friendlier. - If someone has posted a message that is clearly in violation of netiquette, simply ignore the message, and please DON'T flame this person to all the list, since this will only result in more off topic posts. - If you've just joined the list, it's probably a good idea to monitor the discussions for a while before posting anything yourself. --- Where are the Darkstep list web pages? http://www.darkstep.org Here you'll find the archives, FAQ, party reviews, links and some samples. The darkstep list is archived at: http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep/ --- end of darkstep.info file From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Dec 22 08:56:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 965 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Dec 1999 08:56:00 -0000 Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Received: (qmail 572 invoked from network); 22 Dec 1999 08:55:23 -0000 Received: from rabacal.direct.ca (199.60.229.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Dec 1999 08:55:23 -0000 Received: from mut-53-0294.direct.ca ([216.66.132.190] helo=direct.ca) by rabacal.direct.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #7) id 120hXQ-0003eL-00; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 00:54:28 -0800 Message-ID: <3860932C.397486C3@direct.ca> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 01:00:28 -0800 From: colin Organization: http://www.mediacore.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: (DARKSTEP) [bsp] Mediacore v1.0 CDR compilation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) v1.0 Mediacore, a fancy-free bunch of cheap Vancouver trash, is pleased to announce the release of v1.0, an enhanced music CDR. Featuring hypnotizing video and musical styles encompassing noise, hardcore, dark ambient, esquvirrel, and deeply awkward drunk'n'bass, there is bound to be music even a dog can appreciate. Artists include: Bad Feng Shui Clone Crazy Dave Cyclic vs Gendai Error 404 Merlyn Musikill Seedy Windowshade We at Mediacore have dedicated ourselves to creating a distinct experimental music and performance presence in Vancouver since 1998, and have channelled the psychic trauma of this odyssey into our release (and a soap opera called "Day of Cheap Bars" that is to air in the fall 2000 season). Featuring over 30 minutes of audio that can be played on a standard CD player, over an hour of MP3 audio, and 8 minutes of video, v1.0 is a good time in the guise of a coaster-like shiny piece of plastic. You would not want to deny your animals any pleasure during their short lives. Here is some others have had to say about v1.0: "True underground electronics compilation, covering all the bases from harsh noise to ambient to speedcore to idm, all from the land that brought us David Cronenburg, i.e. Canaduh. This is an enhanced cd, where there is a large amount of audio in mp3 format, and about half an hour's worth in traditional audio cd format. It features tracks from Clone, Error 404, Seedy, Cyclic v.s. Gendai, Musikill, Crazy Dave, Windowshade, and Bad Feng Shui. There is a great deal of incredible material on here, for only $6 ppd! The highlights include the opening ambient track from Clone, the epic "God Loves the Little Collaborators" by Bad Feng Shui, and the Musikill live sets (in mp3 format.) There is a wealth of good music on this cd, and as such I must highly recommend supporting this music collective." -Anthony Saunders, Assume Power Focus Webzine, Merzbow & DIY politics list admin "...something that would sit in [my] cd player at home for months on end" -Skinner, Black Monolith Records, gabber & darkstep list admin Our CDR is currently available at Boomtown & Scratch Records in Vancouver, as well as Blackbyrd Myoosik in Edmonton. It can also be directly purchased by mail for $6 US/$8 Cdn (make cheque payable to Colin Hendry): Mediacore #23 - 1195 Davie St. Vancouver, BC V6B 1N3 Canada Have you ever seen an animal cry? Free feel to contact us if you have any questions: http://www.mediacore.org info@mediacore.org icq 49593569 fax 208.275.1967 -- colin http://www.mediacore.org/~clone http://mp3.com/sonicatharsis np: Jeff Harrington- Espace Des Cloches From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 23 01:31:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11805 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Dec 1999 01:31:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 11779 invoked from network); 23 Dec 1999 01:31:18 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Dec 1999 01:31:18 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA10030 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:32:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:32:21 -0500 (EST) From: Skinner To: DarkStep Mailing List Subject: (DARKSTEP) D.S.L CD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Ok I got a few tracks for the Darkstep List CD. I am making a deadline of Jan 15th for songs. So if you all who are making stuff for me please send the stuff as soon as you can. If a few of you need a day or few more well see how many tracks sent and if there is room to wait.. -- +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ -Hardcore-Gabber-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber -Darkstep-DnB-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 23 01:38:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16324 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Dec 1999 01:38:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 16312 invoked from network); 23 Dec 1999 01:38:16 -0000 Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Dec 1999 01:38:16 -0000 Received: from mindspring.com (user-2iveh8k.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.69.20]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA17721 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:38:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38617D05.C2471C87@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:38:25 -0500 From: Matthew Williams Organization: www.visia9.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [de] (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) D.S.L CD References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) ok where do we send tracks to and in which formats? Skinner schrieb: > > Ok I got a few tracks for the Darkstep List CD. I am making a deadline > of Jan 15th for songs. So if you all who are making stuff for me > please send the stuff as soon as you can. If a few of you need a day > or few more well see how many tracks sent and if there is room to > wait.. > > -- > +----------------------------+------------------------------+ > | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | > | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | > +----------------------------+------------------------------+ > | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | > | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | > +----------------------------+------------------------------+ > -Hardcore-Gabber-List- > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber > -Darkstep-DnB-List- > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 23 01:44:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17971 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Dec 1999 01:44:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 17658 invoked from network); 23 Dec 1999 01:44:20 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Dec 1999 01:44:20 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA10143 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:45:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:45:28 -0500 (EST) From: Skinner To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) D.S.L CD In-Reply-To: <38617D05.C2471C87@mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Matthew Williams wrote: -> -> ok where do we send tracks to and in which formats? I prefer CD-R, Dat, or MD. CD is the esiest as I can just rip the tracks where as MD and Dat i need to trasfer via SPDF. As for addy those who want to do it, email me in private and I will send you the shipping addy. -- +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ -Hardcore-Gabber-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber -Darkstep-DnB-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 23 03:24:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15976 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Dec 1999 03:24:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 15969 invoked from network); 23 Dec 1999 03:24:24 -0000 Received: from tempest.nac.net (HELO nac.net) (209.123.109.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Dec 1999 03:24:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 80813 invoked by uid 0); 23 Dec 1999 03:24:22 -0000 Received: from s43.dial1.ctn.nac.net (HELO nac.net) (209.123.161.93) by tempest.nac.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 1999 03:24:22 -0000 Message-ID: <386197B8.758EA4DF@nac.net> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 22:32:10 -0500 From: ramos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) Re: who wants a tape References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) unfortunately i haven't stepped into producing yet but i just finished a tape and would be happy to send one to anyone who's interested. i wouldn't really classify it as a jungle tape. the only thing the tracks have in common is that there all some kind of broken up beat. its got some west coast flava (UFO!, essasin), some old school penny black type stuff, panacea and other p.c., some weird japanese shit, ambush, psywarp, amputate, lots of cristoph fringelli and scud tracks, old alec empire, praxis, some broken beat tunes, my own little remix of "total destruction" and all kinds of good stuff. if youre interested e-mail with your addy and i'll send you one peace ako From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 23 03:31:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19440 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Dec 1999 03:31:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 19432 invoked from network); 23 Dec 1999 03:31:26 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Dec 1999 03:31:26 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA10661 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 22:32:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 22:32:33 -0500 (EST) From: Skinner To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Re: who wants a tape In-Reply-To: <386197B8.758EA4DF@nac.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, ramos wrote: -> unfortunately i haven't stepped into producing yet but i just -> finished a tape and would be happy to send one to anyone who's -> interested. i wouldn't really classify it as a jungle tape. -> the only thing the tracks have in common is that there all some -> kind of broken up beat. its got some west coast flava (UFO!, -> essasin), some old school penny black type stuff, panacea and -> other p.c., some weird japanese shit, ambush, psywarp, amputate, -> lots of cristoph fringelli and scud tracks, old alec empire, -> praxis, some broken beat tunes, my own little remix of "total -> destruction" and all kinds of good stuff. if youre interested -> e-mail with your addy and i'll send you one -> peace ako Every track you named is Darkstep :) BrokenBeat,Breakcore and Dark DnB all fit into a darkstep caragory. -- +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ -Hardcore-Gabber-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber -Darkstep-DnB-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 23 03:40:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24102 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Dec 1999 03:40:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 24085 invoked from network); 23 Dec 1999 03:40:14 -0000 Received: from f289.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.180) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Dec 1999 03:40:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 85535 invoked by uid 0); 23 Dec 1999 03:39:45 -0000 Message-ID: <19991223033945.85534.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 202.64.3.14 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:39:44 PST X-Originating-IP: [202.64.3.14] From: "edward heard" To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Optical (laser) Turntable. Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:39:44 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) have you seen the plans for the vestax vinyl cutter, at a proposed 5k GBP it will be a steal for any dj/producer studio. The blank 12's will be 25 GBP for 3 and can have 24 mins of music recorded on to each. The release date is set for Jan 2k, and guranteed it will piss a few pressing houses off. respect dj talldred >From: Skinner >Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org >To: foobar@skinner.org >Subject: (DARKSTEP) Optical (laser) Turntable. >Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:04:04 -0500 (EST) > > >Yea that is right an Optical Turntable. Granted 20K USD is out of most >people's price range. But for any audiphiles or people into >technology, it is something neat to read about. > >So here is the link to the manuf site http://www.elpj.com/ > >-- >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ >| skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | >| ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ >| Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | >| Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | >+----------------------------+------------------------------+ >-Hardcore-Gabber-List- > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber >-Darkstep-DnB-List- > http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 23 09:54:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22698 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Dec 1999 09:54:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 22666 invoked from network); 23 Dec 1999 09:54:17 -0000 Received: from smtp-gateway.com (vipserve@192.41.26.75) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Dec 1999 09:54:17 -0000 Received: from andythepooh.com (ehdup-t-18.rmt.net.pitt.edu [136.142.23.28]) by smtp-gateway.com (8.8.5) id CAA07955; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 02:54:10 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3861F152.9B38AF43@andythepooh.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 04:54:26 -0500 From: "death?!?! to false metal" Organization: Pasty Black Separatists X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cretins , hammy , darkstep list , breaks , your mother Subject: (DARKSTEP) my x-mas top ten Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) let's do this one differently, counting down from 10........ 10. Absolute Zero & Subphonics - "Code (Future Cut Remix) - Renegade Hardware (Armageddon LP) 9. Digital and Spirit - "Phantom Force" - Phantom Audio 8. Christoph De Babalon - "Rise Above This" 7" - Zhark 7. Everything But The Girl - "Blame (J Majik VIP Remix)" - Virgin 6. Selway - "New People" - Ultra 5. Profound Noize - "Dropzone" - Underfire (The Infantry EP) 4. Mr. Oizo - "Analog Worms Attack" - F Communications 3. Pieter K. - BBS002 White Label - Breakbeat Science 2. Jagged Edge (Optical and Ryme Tyme) - "Rock Baby" - V Recordings 1. Abelcain - "der zorn gottes" - LowRes now *that* is a fucking top ten ;) tom From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 23 11:52:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6128 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Dec 1999 11:52:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 6121 invoked from network); 23 Dec 1999 11:52:33 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Dec 1999 11:52:33 -0000 Received: from BreakNoize@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id v.0.40e4ec99 (5727) for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 06:52:04 -0500 (EST) From: BreakNoize@aol.com Message-ID: <0.40e4ec99.259366e3@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 06:52:03 EST Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) my x-mas top ten To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) death@andythepooh.com writes: > 8. Christoph De Babalon - "Rise Above This" 7" - Zhark hehe finally i see his name spelled right! i've been seeing lots of others put "christoph de babylon"! it is a wonderful 7" indeed! i just which it was on 12" instead so it can make it a little easier while spinning it! -derrick From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 23 14:47:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21738 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Dec 1999 14:47:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 21731 invoked from network); 23 Dec 1999 14:47:56 -0000 Received: from law-f249.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.214) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Dec 1999 14:47:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 23759 invoked by uid 0); 23 Dec 1999 14:47:30 -0000 Message-ID: <19991223144730.23758.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.207.104.82 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 06:47:29 PST X-Originating-IP: [208.207.104.82] From: "jason mundo" To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) Mundo "Disturbance" Wikiddrama 003 out now Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 06:47:29 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) I tried sending this to the list yesterday (from a nonmember account) but I think it didn't make it. so anyways.. Hello everyone, Just letting you know that my third Drum n Bass 12" Mundo "Disturbance / Syn-Drone" Wikiddrama 003 is out now in the US on Wikiddrama Recordings - Dallas In a nutshell: Its a heavily filtered rollin tech-nightmare of a cop's bad day gone haywire. review at: http://www.junglevoodoo.com/jungle2.htm check it out and ask your favorite store to order a few. :) Merry Christmas, Mundo Wikiddrama Recordings - Dallas wikiddrama@hotmail.com jmundo@cpyi.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 23 15:20:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6667 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Dec 1999 15:20:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 6654 invoked from network); 23 Dec 1999 15:20:45 -0000 Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Dec 1999 15:20:45 -0000 Received: from mindspring.com (user-2iveh11.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.68.33]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05793 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:20:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38623DC5.94C49038@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:20:43 -0500 From: Matthew Williams Organization: www.visia9.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [de] (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) sites References: <19991223144730.23758.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Hey.... well i'm working on a 2000 update (not just a whimpy update, but some serious redesign of my site) and I"m looking for new content... any ideas? I'd like a few profiles of DJs / Producers. i.e. if you have a fairly regular gig that you're doing, i'd like to let people know. If you're interested I'll send you my questionaire. Also, I"m open to any other content ideas that you might have. Matt http://www.sprucemountain.org From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 23 15:41:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13327 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Dec 1999 15:41:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 13318 invoked from network); 23 Dec 1999 15:41:41 -0000 Received: from web2904.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.47) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Dec 1999 15:41:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 7400 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Dec 1999 15:41:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19991223154140.7399.qmail@web2904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.214.147.2] by web2904.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 07:41:40 PST Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 07:41:40 -0800 (PST) From: rando Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) my x-mas top ten To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Not that this is necessarily a great idea.. but I saw someone do this once..... Glue the 7" to a 12" record while holding the 7" in the correct position with the axle of the turntable. of course you may want a couple copies of the record.... peace rando --- BreakNoize@aol.com wrote: > > death@andythepooh.com writes: > > > 8. Christoph De Babalon - "Rise Above This" 7" - Zhark > > hehe finally i see his name spelled right! i've been seeing lots of > others > put "christoph de babylon"! > > it is a wonderful 7" indeed! i just which it was on 12" instead so it > can > make it a little easier while spinning it! > > -derrick > ===== randy j shepherd aka rando...................the|black|lodgelive sets, info and pics::http://jungle.ffwd.com/advance http://www.transcasts.com http://www.newzwire.com/events/boston/elements.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Dec 24 03:54:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12031 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Dec 1999 03:54:04 -0000 Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Received: (qmail 12014 invoked from network); 24 Dec 1999 03:54:01 -0000 Received: from cheddar.direct.ca (199.60.229.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Dec 1999 03:54:01 -0000 Received: from mut-53-0208.direct.ca ([216.66.132.104] helo=direct.ca) by cheddar.direct.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #6) id 121Lie-0006Qn-00; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 19:48:45 -0800 Message-ID: <3862F004.C9D07C51@direct.ca> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 20:01:08 -0800 From: colin Organization: http://www.mediacore.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: (DARKSTEP) cubase? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) eh.. don't use cubase myself, but some youz might http://perso.infonie.fr/true/fr/cubase/menutype.htm plug-ins (in French) -- colin http://www.mediacore.org/~clone http://mp3.com/sonicatharsis np: Polar -live at Arospace From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Dec 24 09:43:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26813 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Dec 1999 09:43:31 -0000 Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Received: (qmail 26628 invoked from network); 24 Dec 1999 09:43:26 -0000 Received: from cheddar.direct.ca (199.60.229.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Dec 1999 09:43:26 -0000 Received: from mut-53-0434.direct.ca ([216.66.133.130] helo=direct.ca) by cheddar.direct.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #6) id 121RAp-0005pL-00; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 01:38:11 -0800 Message-ID: <386341EC.2176002A@direct.ca> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 01:50:36 -0800 From: colin Organization: http://www.mediacore.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: (DARKSTEP) Hrvatski Micro European Tour Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) >Subject: Hrvatski Micro European Tour. >Due to some unforseen act(s) of God, I'll be on tour next month. >Do try to catch one of the following shows (all in Germany): > >10.1.berlin podewil >11.1.stuttgart le fonque >12.1.cologne studio 672 >13.1.bremen freizeitzentrum friesenstrasse >14.1.rostock ms stubnitz >15.1.hannover silke arpricht > >Other acts playing along the way include Vladislav Delay, Phthalocyanine, >and Fred 'Electronicat' Bigot. It's going to be a barrel of monkeys, for >sure... -V=E5t > >____________________ >Reckankreuzungsklankewerkzeuge >PO BOX 382864. Cambridge, MA 02238 >http://www.tiac.net/users/sheket/index.html http://mp3.com/hrvatski -- colin http://www.mediacore.org/~clone http://mp3.com/sonicatharsis np: From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Dec 24 10:01:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5784 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Dec 1999 10:01:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 5769 invoked from network); 24 Dec 1999 10:01:42 -0000 Received: from web3005.mail.yahoo.com (204.71.202.168) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Dec 1999 10:01:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 2739 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Dec 1999 10:01:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19991224100114.2738.qmail@web3005.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.79.0.55] by web3005.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 02:01:14 PST Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 02:01:14 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Moore Subject: (DARKSTEP) Drum & Bass Mixtapes (over 130 titles) To: DARKSTEP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Check out this list of mixtapes, it has stuff from 1994 to the latest... http://www.geocities.com/dnb_mixtapes ://Ken (#1 dnb head) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Dec 24 13:26:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9157 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Dec 1999 13:26:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 9149 invoked from network); 24 Dec 1999 13:26:52 -0000 Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Dec 1999 13:26:52 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (har-ct16-163.ix.netcom.com [207.223.191.163]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA29554 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 08:26:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <004801bf4e2b$38b1cd40$a3bfdfcf@oemcomputer> From: "Robert Galbraith" To: References: <3862F004.C9D07C51@direct.ca> Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) cubase? Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 08:23:31 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) component records http://www.mindstorm.com/component ----- Original Message ----- From: colin Cc: Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 8:01 PM Subject: (DARKSTEP) cubase? > > eh.. don't use cubase myself, but some youz might > > http://perso.infonie.fr/true/fr/cubase/menutype.htm > plug-ins (in French) Thanks :)!! Theres a lot of great stuff there Rob From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Dec 25 05:21:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16185 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Dec 1999 05:21:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 16172 invoked from network); 25 Dec 1999 05:21:20 -0000 Received: from mail.iweb.net.au (HELO mail2.iweb.net.au) (210.8.138.51) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Dec 1999 05:21:20 -0000 Received: from blackcube (ppp-pm1-1.iweb.net.au [210.8.138.65] (may be forged)) by mail2.iweb.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA30726; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 15:48:41 +1030 Message-ID: <001301bf4e98$6225c060$418a08d2@blackcube> From: "ooOOOH" To: "Gabber List" , , "C8 Mailing List" , , "Darkstep List" , Subject: (DARKSTEP) coal for xmas bah humbug..... Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 15:10:10 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) ############ ############## ############ ########## ########### Here's your fucking piece of coal .Grinch. nacht/atfassaultcru From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Dec 25 16:12:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5432 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Dec 1999 16:12:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 5422 invoked from network); 25 Dec 1999 16:12:02 -0000 Received: from f334.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.113) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Dec 1999 16:12:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 57468 invoked by uid 0); 25 Dec 1999 16:11:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19991225161132.57467.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 202.64.3.246 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 08:11:32 PST X-Originating-IP: [202.64.3.246] From: "edward heard" To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) coal for xmas bah humbug..... Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 08:11:32 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) what da f*** is dis chit? >From: "ooOOOH" >Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org >To: "Gabber List" , , > "C8 Mailing List" , , "Darkstep >List" , >Subject: (DARKSTEP) coal for xmas bah humbug..... >Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 15:10:10 +1030 > > >############ >############## >############ >########## >########### > >Here's your fucking piece of coal > >.Grinch. > >nacht/atfassaultcru > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Dec 26 00:28:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22559 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Dec 1999 00:28:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 22551 invoked from network); 26 Dec 1999 00:28:34 -0000 Received: from mail2.uunet.ca (root@142.77.1.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Dec 1999 00:28:34 -0000 Received: from abenaki.com (216-208-101-36.expressvu.ca [216.208.101.36]) by mail2.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <600535-2167>; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 19:27:07 -0500 Message-ID: <38656134.F03E1C84@abenaki.com> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 19:28:37 -0500 From: Peter Barnaby X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) coal for xmas bah humbug..... References: <19991225161132.57467.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) imho Xmas is a sham...... It's all lies and religious propaganda.... edward heard wrote: > what da f*** is dis chit? > > >From: "ooOOOH" > >Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org > >To: "Gabber List" , , > > "C8 Mailing List" , , "Darkstep > >List" , > >Subject: (DARKSTEP) coal for xmas bah humbug..... > >Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 15:10:10 +1030 > > > > > >############ > >############## > >############ > >########## > >########### > > > >Here's your fucking piece of coal > > > >.Grinch. > > > >nacht/atfassaultcru > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Dec 26 04:10:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25716 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Dec 1999 04:10:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 25601 invoked from network); 26 Dec 1999 04:10:03 -0000 Received: from f39.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Dec 1999 04:10:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 20886 invoked by uid 0); 26 Dec 1999 04:09:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19991226040936.20885.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 202.64.9.168 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 20:09:36 PST X-Originating-IP: [202.64.9.168] From: "edward heard" To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) coal for xmas bah humbug..... Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 20:09:36 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) for real, but does not stop everyone (exception being Muslims, Jews etc) spending the $ and comsuming the food. We are all guilty because it has been ingrained in us since childhood, as with Easter, Halloween, Thanks giving (for u Americans) and countless other festivals that have long since lost all true meaning. peace Ed >From: Peter Barnaby >Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org >To: darkstep@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) coal for xmas bah humbug..... >Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 19:28:37 -0500 > > >imho Xmas is a sham...... It's all lies and religious propaganda.... > > >edward heard wrote: > > > what da f*** is dis chit? > > > > >From: "ooOOOH" > > >Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org > > >To: "Gabber List" , >, > > > "C8 Mailing List" , , >"Darkstep > > >List" , > > >Subject: (DARKSTEP) coal for xmas bah humbug..... > > >Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 15:10:10 +1030 > > > > > > > > >############ > > >############## > > >############ > > >########## > > >########### > > > > > >Here's your fucking piece of coal > > > > > >.Grinch. > > > > > >nacht/atfassaultcru > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Dec 26 10:00:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19070 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Dec 1999 10:00:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 19062 invoked from network); 26 Dec 1999 10:00:38 -0000 Received: from smtp-gateway.com (vipserve@192.41.26.75) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Dec 1999 10:00:38 -0000 Received: from andythepooh.com (ehdup-r2-7.rmt.net.pitt.edu [136.142.22.137]) by smtp-gateway.com (8.8.5) id DAA22340; Sun, 26 Dec 1999 03:00:33 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3865E74A.D9AAAA20@andythepooh.com> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 05:00:42 -0500 From: "death?!?! to false metal" Organization: Pasty Black Separatists X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) coal for xmas bah humbug..... References: <19991225161132.57467.qmail@hotmail.com> <38656134.F03E1C84@abenaki.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) maybe for you. for me it means i get lots of money and "the godfather" set on video. whatever, dood. im sorry. tmio Peter Barnaby wrote: > > imho Xmas is a sham...... It's all lies and religious propaganda.... From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Dec 26 21:17:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25300 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Dec 1999 21:17:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 25293 invoked from network); 26 Dec 1999 21:17:42 -0000 Received: from law2-f240.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.240) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Dec 1999 21:17:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 97129 invoked by uid 0); 26 Dec 1999 21:17:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19991226211715.97128.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.27.124.80 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 26 Dec 1999 13:17:15 PST X-Originating-IP: [206.27.124.80] From: "Jeff Packard" To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) coal for xmas bah humbug..... Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 21:17:15 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) werd...got me a minidisc recorder and some loot for new records. plus got drunk as a bitch with the relatives...damn that was fun! merry fucking christmas tom! -jeff >From: "death?!?! to false metal" >Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org >To: darkstep@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) coal for xmas bah humbug..... >Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 05:00:42 -0500 > > >maybe for you. for me it means i get lots of money and "the godfather" >set on video. whatever, dood. im sorry. > >tmio > >Peter Barnaby wrote: > > > > imho Xmas is a sham...... It's all lies and religious propaganda.... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 27 00:43:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9584 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Dec 1999 00:43:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 9568 invoked from network); 27 Dec 1999 00:43:05 -0000 Received: from f102.law4.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.149.102) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Dec 1999 00:43:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 3384 invoked by uid 0); 27 Dec 1999 00:42:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19991227004238.3383.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.163.213.176 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:42:38 PST X-Originating-IP: [152.163.213.176] From: "the inimitable ..." To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) coal for xmas... Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 19:42:38 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Remember that before the Christians bastardized it "Christ"-mas, it was a pagan holiday in which lots of cool druid-type pplz gotz together, drank (i imagine they probably did drugs and fucked alot, too), burned stuff, and generally threw a phat-ass party to celebrate the solstice. Then Jesus and Hallmark ruined the whole fucking thing... heh ;P + FRIED NEURONZ - "You will be assimilated...resistance is futile" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 27 00:52:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12046 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Dec 1999 00:52:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 12037 invoked from network); 27 Dec 1999 00:52:21 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Dec 1999 00:52:21 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA14655 for ; Sun, 26 Dec 1999 19:53:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 19:53:38 -0500 (EST) From: Skinner To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) coal for xmas... In-Reply-To: <19991227004238.3383.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) On Sun, 26 Dec 1999, the inimitable ... wrote: -> -> Remember that before the Christians bastardized it "Christ"-mas, it was -> a pagan holiday in which lots of cool druid-type pplz gotz together, drank -> (i imagine they probably did drugs and fucked alot, too), burned stuff, and -> generally threw a phat-ass party to celebrate the solstice. Then Jesus and -> Hallmark ruined the whole fucking thing... heh ;P -> Well that is the "winter Soltice" date of X-mas. .. The tru date of x-mas is january.. When people adopted bastridize version of Christianty suchs as Catholisim and Lutherism(and all its break offs) It was meshed with the locals belives suchs as Winter Solatice in the UK. I come from the Eastern Orthodox Relgion. And since 58AD Christmas was celibrated In janary, before Monks Reached Erie and Converted the celts. who celebrated the wintersoltace in december. Ever see the Irish Celtic Cross with the circle? This is the sun that the druigs wroshped meshed with christian relgion.. (of course the cross is pagan sign at one time too)> -- +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ -Hardcore-Gabber-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber -Darkstep-DnB-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 27 02:18:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6741 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Dec 1999 02:18:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 6727 invoked from network); 27 Dec 1999 02:18:54 -0000 Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.200.246) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Dec 1999 02:18:54 -0000 Received: from mindspring.com (user-2ivei6f.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.72.207]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA29836 for ; Sun, 26 Dec 1999 21:18:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3866CC8A.87234798@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 21:18:59 -0500 From: Matthew Williams Organization: www.visia9.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [de] (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) coal for xmas... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) I thought that was called "Burning Man"? (ba da bum) Matt - Doing web site schtuffs.. running out of ideas... don't you love cooperative contributors! Skinner schrieb: > > On Sun, 26 Dec 1999, the inimitable ... wrote: > > -> > -> Remember that before the Christians bastardized it "Christ"-mas, it was > -> a pagan holiday in which lots of cool druid-type pplz gotz together, drank > -> (i imagine they probably did drugs and fucked alot, too), burned stuff, and > -> generally threw a phat-ass party to celebrate the solstice. Then Jesus and > -> Hallmark ruined the whole fucking thing... heh ;P > -> > From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 27 17:20:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5792 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Dec 1999 17:20:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 5774 invoked from network); 27 Dec 1999 17:20:37 -0000 Received: from www.inx.de (exim@195.21.255.251) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Dec 1999 17:20:37 -0000 Received: from n241-78.berlin.snafu.de ([195.21.241.78]) by www.inx.de with smtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 122dos-00055B-00 for darkstep@hyperreal.org; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 18:20:33 +0100 Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) coal for xmas... Date: Mon, 27 Dec 99 18:20:46 +0200 From: !!!?! To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) >The tru date of x-mas is january.. october, guy. jesus died w/ 32 yrs and 6 months... he died 14th nisan which is about easter time... (normally april), take 32yrs and 6 months back you have an october... also: there were sheeps on the field... they are no sheeps on the field in israel between november and february cause its too cold. joel. From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 27 17:36:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15390 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Dec 1999 17:36:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 15372 invoked from network); 27 Dec 1999 17:36:21 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Dec 1999 17:36:21 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA19466 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 12:37:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 12:37:32 -0500 (EST) From: Skinner To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) coal for xmas... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, !!!?! wrote: -> -> >The tru date of x-mas is january.. -> october, guy. -> jesus died w/ 32 yrs and 6 months... -> he died 14th nisan which is about easter time... (normally april), take -> 32yrs and 6 months back you have an october... -> also: there were sheeps on the field... they are no sheeps on the field -> in israel between november and february cause its too cold. Yes but you are basicing it on the 12 Month calander of our time, the calander used during that time was totaly differnt. To cold for sheeps in the field? umm No. cold only effects thier grazing period. Being near a barn or in a "slotting" fense is very common even during snow.. Go to scotland :) SHeep are out 24/7.. and scotland is 100X colder during winter m8. -- +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ -Hardcore-Gabber-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber -Darkstep-DnB-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 27 17:41:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17542 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Dec 1999 17:41:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 17521 invoked from network); 27 Dec 1999 17:41:55 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Dec 1999 17:41:55 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA19516 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 12:43:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 12:43:10 -0500 (EST) From: Skinner To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) coal for xmas... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, Skinner wrote: -> -> On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, !!!?! wrote: -> -> -> -> -> >The tru date of x-mas is january.. -> -> october, guy. -> -> jesus died w/ 32 yrs and 6 months... -> -> he died 14th nisan which is about easter time... (normally april), take -> -> 32yrs and 6 months back you have an october... -> -> also: there were sheeps on the field... they are no sheeps on the field -> -> in israel between november and february cause its too col Plus another factor, The orthodox Faith Has not changed since it was founded during the life of christ. When the great schzim happend in 1045, that is when the new calander came about. The birth of christ has been celbrated every january for 1942 years since then. REmber dates are not 100% accurate about what the life of christ was like. Buit considering the orthodx relgion is the only one still based directly on the teachingts of that time and has not changed I hold more turth to that then anything else. But either way its dates, dates mean nothing , becuse the true fact behind christinity is not which "one" day to celibrated it but everyday, that is the problem with most people who say they have 'relgion' they only practice the belifes at certian times. That is why I laugh at most people who call them selves christians. Hell that goes for many Jewish and Muslim peopl I know. They think they are of that relgion, but arnt strong becuse they dont go to weeklyy worship, but what makes one faithful and of that "relgion" is one who pratices its beliefs and teacings on a daily basis. -- +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ -Hardcore-Gabber-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber -Darkstep-DnB-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 27 17:50:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22717 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Dec 1999 17:50:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 22706 invoked from network); 27 Dec 1999 17:50:44 -0000 Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Dec 1999 17:50:44 -0000 Received: from mindspring.com (user-2ivei4d.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.72.141]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28958 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 12:50:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3867A6F0.62343938@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 12:50:43 -0500 From: Matthew Williams Organization: www.visia9.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [de] (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "darkstep@hyperreal.org" Subject: (DARKSTEP) Pre Site.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Man I've been tearing up some HTML all weekend, and the music section is still kinda sparse... I have about 50% of the stuff that I want, so there's still a lot of space for other people's ideas and input. So what am I missing here? Any suggestions? Is the new design too Lego looking? http://www.sprucemountain.org/ If anyone wants to submit a review, here's the questions I have been using:---------- Artist: Album: Genre: Review: Availability: Date Posted: Monday, 27 December 1999 Reviewer: From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 27 19:33:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17907 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Dec 1999 19:33:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 17893 invoked from network); 27 Dec 1999 19:33:38 -0000 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.35) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Dec 1999 19:33:38 -0000 Received: from TEK909ATR@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id v.0.726cf229 (4236) for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 14:33:06 -0500 (EST) From: TEK909ATR@aol.com Message-ID: <0.726cf229.259918f1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 14:33:05 EST Subject: (DARKSTEP) sprucemountain site design To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Almost has that J.Crew kind of feel at first, but overall appears very well designed. The links on the left side of the main page are wrong (all the categories lead to a t-shirt). Seems fine other than that. rob salit > Man I've been tearing up some HTML all weekend, and the music section is > still > kinda sparse... I have about 50% of the stuff that I want, so there's still > a > lot of space for other people's ideas and input. So what am I missing here? > > Any suggestions? Is the new design too Lego looking? > From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 27 19:36:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19644 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Dec 1999 19:36:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 19621 invoked from network); 27 Dec 1999 19:36:04 -0000 Received: from newshub1-work.home.com (24.0.0.24) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Dec 1999 19:36:04 -0000 Received: from cx88302-A ([209.125.118.137]) by newshub1-work.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19991227193558.WHPE8483.newshub1-work.home.com@cx88302-A> for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:35:58 -0800 Message-ID: <009901bf50a1$92bed580$0664a8c0@cx88302-A.onelinkri.com> From: "...zero" To: Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) coal for xmas... Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 14:35:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) :also: there were sheeps on the field... they are no sheeps on the field :in israel between november and february cause its too cold. -->Ahah! Prove that! The sheep part in the bible was when the wise men found the christ child... which is generally believed to be several months after birth (assumed to be march-ish) cosinezero . ._ _ |"Hooray, I say, for the end of the world, . \ / \ /| Hooray, I say, for the end of it all..." .--|---|---|---|-+--------------------------------------[+] . \_/ \_/ | cosine@home.com .T......-1.......0 UIN# - 30856027 . . From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 27 19:36:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20363 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Dec 1999 19:36:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 20286 invoked from network); 27 Dec 1999 19:36:39 -0000 Received: from postoffice.c-bass.com (209.73.194.201) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Dec 1999 19:36:39 -0000 Received: by postoffice.c-bass.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 14:32:21 -0500 Message-ID: <90BF9DC67772D211BE3400A0C95612F338D499@postoffice.c-bass.com> From: "Falcon, Jared \(C-BASS\)" To: "'darkstep@hyperreal.org'" Subject: RE: (DARKSTEP) Pre Site.... Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 14:32:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) I like it. Did you do it in Photoshop? Anyways, some links do not work, and some all lead to the t-shirt page. Other than that I like it. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Williams [mailto:mw4233@mindspring.com] Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 12:51 PM To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: (DARKSTEP) Pre Site.... Man I've been tearing up some HTML all weekend, and the music section is still kinda sparse... I have about 50% of the stuff that I want, so there's still a lot of space for other people's ideas and input. So what am I missing here? Any suggestions? Is the new design too Lego looking? http://www.sprucemountain.org/ If anyone wants to submit a review, here's the questions I have been using:---------- Artist: Album: Genre: Review: Availability: Date Posted: Monday, 27 December 1999 Reviewer: From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 27 20:35:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26097 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Dec 1999 20:35:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 25955 invoked from network); 27 Dec 1999 20:35:40 -0000 Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Dec 1999 20:35:40 -0000 Received: from mindspring.com (user-2ivehmk.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.70.212]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA14237 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 15:35:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3867CD8D.21604DF8@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 15:35:35 -0500 From: Matthew Williams Organization: www.visia9.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [de] (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Pre Site.... References: <90BF9DC67772D211BE3400A0C95612F338D499@postoffice.c-bass.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Ok, two people said that, so maybe I should fix it. omm... uh... i'm doing posters and compilation cd, and then I have that misc catagory for books n stuff, but none of that shit is in yet, except for the T shirts. So i'll probably end up breaking that out to a different page... The only other legit phuck-ups are DJ TWIN, he gave me like half his stuff and then he kinda disappeared. I know him well enough to finish his article for him, but I want to give him the chance to finish it in his own words first. And there's nothing really under PLACES. That's supposed to be the travel section, but i haen't really been too many places recently so I'm thinking about holding off on that one until I find someone who's willing to submit a scene report or something. I had a lot of stuff on zip, but my zip drive went kaputt, so I can't use that material right now... thanks for your comments. any new content ideas? Falcon, Jared (C-BASS) schrieb: > > I like it. Did you do it in Photoshop? Anyways, some links do not work, and > some all lead to the t-shirt page. Other than that I like it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Williams [mailto:mw4233@mindspring.com] > Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 12:51 PM > To: darkstep@hyperreal.org > Subject: (DARKSTEP) Pre Site.... From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 27 21:47:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5564 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Dec 1999 21:47:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 5480 invoked from network); 27 Dec 1999 21:47:48 -0000 Received: from f342.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.90) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Dec 1999 21:47:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 77533 invoked by uid 0); 27 Dec 1999 21:47:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19991227214717.77532.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 202.64.11.171 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 13:47:17 PST X-Originating-IP: [202.64.11.171] From: "edward heard" To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) coal for xmas... Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 13:47:17 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) f**k the sheep, or that is what the Welsh say! :) dj talldred >From: "...zero" >Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org >To: >Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) coal for xmas... >Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 14:35:46 -0500 > > >:also: there were sheeps on the field... they are no sheeps on the field >:in israel between november and february cause its too cold. > >-->Ahah! Prove that! The sheep part in the bible was when the wise men >found >the christ child... which is generally believed to be several months after >birth (assumed to be march-ish) > > > >cosinezero > > > > > >. >._ _ |"Hooray, I say, for the end of the world, >. \ / \ /| Hooray, I say, for the end of it all..." >.--|---|---|---|-+--------------------------------------[+] >. \_/ \_/ | cosine@home.com >.T......-1.......0 UIN# - 30856027 >. > > >. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Dec 27 21:55:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9295 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Dec 1999 21:55:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 9275 invoked from network); 27 Dec 1999 21:55:54 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Dec 1999 21:55:54 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA20991 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 16:57:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 16:56:29 -0500 (EST) From: Skinner To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) coal for xmas... In-Reply-To: <19991227214717.77532.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, edward heard wrote: -> -> f**k the sheep, or that is what the Welsh say! :) -> dj talldred -> But the Scots, are the smart ones. Only they would think of bringing the sheep to the edge of a cliff so it pushs back harder, and to put its hind legs in your boots so it dosent run away -- George Carlin 1981 +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ -Hardcore-Gabber-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber -Darkstep-DnB-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Dec 28 00:56:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24597 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Dec 1999 00:56:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 24581 invoked from network); 28 Dec 1999 00:56:12 -0000 Received: from mail1.registeredsite.com (root@209.35.159.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Dec 1999 00:56:12 -0000 Received: from mail.marsgraf-x.com (mail.marsgraf-x.com [209.35.31.78]) by mail1.registeredsite.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA14595 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 19:59:06 -0500 Received: from oemcomputer [63.23.221.83] by mail.marsgraf-x.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id ABA474BA0112; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 20:00:20 -0500 Message-ID: <000d01bf50e7$7a3319e0$53dd173f@oemcomputer> From: "Ron Jones" To: References: <19991227214717.77532.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) coal for xmas... Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 19:55:25 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Hey I'm Welsh and I've never fucked a sheep....But i guess thats because I live in America and I don't find sheep attractive....I did however work for this guy that had a rumored animal fetish...He was this really crazy lawyer who had a ton of money so he raised goats and sheep for fun and "pleasure." Peace Ron > > f**k the sheep, or that is what the Welsh say! :) > dj talldred > From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Dec 28 01:05:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2355 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Dec 1999 01:05:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 2233 invoked from network); 28 Dec 1999 01:05:17 -0000 Received: from rabacal.direct.ca (199.60.229.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Dec 1999 01:05:17 -0000 Received: from mut-53-0394.direct.ca ([216.66.133.94] helo=direct.ca) by rabacal.direct.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #7) id 122l4b-0004AN-00 for darkstep@hyperreal.org; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 17:05:14 -0800 Message-ID: <38680E87.181D58BB@direct.ca> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 17:12:39 -0800 From: colin Organization: http://www.mediacore.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) coal for xmas... References: <19991227214717.77532.qmail@hotmail.com> <000d01bf50e7$7a3319e0$53dd173f@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Ron Jones wrote: > > Hey I'm Welsh and I've never fucked a sheep....But i guess thats because I > live in America and I don't find sheep attractive....I did however work for > this guy that had a rumored animal fetish...He was this really crazy lawyer > who had a ton of money so he raised goats and sheep for fun and "pleasure." > Peace Ron Jarmara @Necronomicon http://members.home.net/jar3d/shpflog.jpg > > f**k the sheep, or that is what the Welsh say! :) > > dj talldred -- colin http://www.mediacore.org/~clone http://mp3.com/sonicatharsis np: http://chemlab.org/cgi/chaotic_trans.m3u?6.bombardier32k From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Dec 28 01:26:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16669 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Dec 1999 01:26:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 16645 invoked from network); 28 Dec 1999 01:26:33 -0000 Received: from mail.iweb.net.au (HELO mail2.iweb.net.au) (210.8.138.51) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Dec 1999 01:26:33 -0000 Received: from blackcube (ppp-ade-107.iweb.net.au [210.8.138.107]) by mail2.iweb.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA11700 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 11:53:59 +1030 Message-ID: <009201bf519b$a4f58dc0$6b8a08d2@blackcube> From: "ooOOOH" To: Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) Pre Site.... Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 11:55:49 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) hey kewl design -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Williams To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Date: Tuesday, 28 December 1999 4:18 Subject: (DARKSTEP) Pre Site.... > >Man I've been tearing up some HTML all weekend, and the music section is still >kinda sparse... I have about 50% of the stuff that I want, so there's still a >lot of space for other people's ideas and input. So what am I missing here? >Any suggestions? Is the new design too Lego looking? > >http://www.sprucemountain.org/ > > > > >If anyone wants to submit a review, here's the questions I have been using:---------- > >Artist: > >Album: > >Genre: > >Review: > >Availability: > > >Date Posted: >Monday, 27 December 1999 > >Reviewer: > From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Dec 29 07:53:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1644 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Dec 1999 07:53:10 -0000 Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Received: (qmail 1626 invoked from network); 29 Dec 1999 07:53:07 -0000 Received: from cheddar.direct.ca (199.60.229.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Dec 1999 07:53:07 -0000 Received: from mut-53-0276.direct.ca ([216.66.132.172] helo=direct.ca) by cheddar.direct.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #6) id 123Dpd-0005hy-00; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 23:47:42 -0800 Message-ID: <3869BF7F.3586013E@direct.ca> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 23:59:59 -0800 From: colin Organization: http://www.mediacore.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: (DARKSTEP) "Electronic Edge" -Wed Dec 29, Vancouver Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) Russ wrote: > Just a reminder that tomorrow night wednesday Dec 29th 1999 > "Electronic Edge" at the Palladium in Vancouver BC Canada @ 1250 Richards St. > is a showcase of 4 live acts of dark electronic music spanning the > genres of drum and bass to experimental dub and dub tech to some acid trance and breakbeat and some that simply defies genres > on the lineup are : > > - Jovian from Drop modulation doing a special solo "Math Genius" (dub > tech) set > - Dan & Kel will be doing dnb & dark ambient as "AI " > > - "Spidy" will be there cookin up some down tempo beats > > - I, Russ will be doing a "Cyclic" (http://www.mp3.com/cyclic ) set of > a mixed bag of sounds ranging from ethereal to agro ... i have also > prepared a 1 hour visual trip in my studio ... > > - !sub millennial dub style MC NuetrixX we be in the house! > > I don't know the times of anyone but myself, i know that's lame but show > starts at ten doors at 9:30. > Merlyn from Mediacore ( http://www.mediacore.org ) will be there with a > psycho-delic hypnotic trip to keep your eyes entertained ... > > there will be a $5 cover to help support the artists and line my greedy > ass wallet ;) yeah right.. > special thanks to Jeff , Pound wednesdays, and > http://www.coldsteelrecords.com/ for makin this happen > > the old flyer is at http://cyclic.statusbar.com/ee.jpg > > > -- > ------------ > Russ Dionne (cyclic, keyboy) > an idea is like a virus, if it is a strong idea there is no defense. -;) -- colin http://www.mediacore.org/~clone http://mp3.com/sonicatharsis np: From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 30 18:39:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13625 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Dec 1999 18:39:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 13612 invoked from network); 30 Dec 1999 18:39:28 -0000 Received: from tempest.nac.net (HELO nac.net) (209.123.109.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Dec 1999 18:39:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 81938 invoked by uid 0); 30 Dec 1999 18:39:26 -0000 Received: from s22.dial1.ctn.nac.net (HELO nac.net) (209.123.161.72) by tempest.nac.net with SMTP; 30 Dec 1999 18:39:26 -0000 Message-ID: <386BA8B8.50B40A23@nac.net> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 13:47:22 -0500 From: ramos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Darkstep Mailing List Subject: (DARKSTEP) tapes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) i sent out tapes to the first twenty people that asked. you should be getting them in a few days or maybe longer depending on how far you live from new jersey usa. for all the other people i'm sorry i'm out of tapes, but i'll try to send you one when i get more copies made. (could be a couple of weeks) peace ako From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 30 18:42:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15672 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Dec 1999 18:42:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 15659 invoked from network); 30 Dec 1999 18:42:04 -0000 Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Dec 1999 18:42:04 -0000 Received: from mindspring.com (user-2ivegr6.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.67.102]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02405 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 13:42:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <386BA776.204BB612@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 13:42:02 -0500 From: Matthew Williams Organization: www.visia9.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [de] (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "darkstep@hyperreal.org" Subject: (DARKSTEP) DOn't Ever Fall Asleep with Ed Rush PLaying... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) So I fell asleep and had this dream that I was in Berlin or something and my best friend carolyn was an east german nuclear physicist whom these pakistani amature terrosits had kidnapped so they could sell her to the real terrorists to make bombs. I tell the guys that I'm the real terrorist, go get her, pay them off, and then we're having this crazy mad straight-up james bond rush to get to the airport and get out of there before the real terrorists find us; the whole time ed rush's "the raven" is playing in the background. - - - My respet for the trace-rush-nico kru never fails to grow. THat track is sooo tight! Some people just make rough sounding terror core techno, and try to call it dark step, but these guys always manage the whole "design" and build up of the track really well. From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 30 22:40:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21967 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Dec 1999 22:40:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 21958 invoked from network); 30 Dec 1999 22:40:39 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Dec 1999 22:40:39 -0000 Received: from Igotdavibe@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id v.0.8937fae1 (4319) for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 17:40:07 -0500 (EST) From: Igotdavibe@aol.com Message-ID: <0.8937fae1.259d3947@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 17:40:07 EST Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) tapes To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) dude if you make anymore copy's send my way i am in NY 3789 Barger Street Shrub Oak,NY 10588 Jeff i'll send you one of my tapes and my boi Jungle Gym tape too From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Dec 30 22:58:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4124 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Dec 1999 22:58:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 4116 invoked from network); 30 Dec 1999 22:58:48 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (root@209.3.31.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Dec 1999 22:58:48 -0000 Received: from confusion.skinner.org (skinner@confusion.skinner.org [209.3.31.16]) by confusion.skinner.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA12936 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 18:00:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skinner@skinner.org) Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 18:00:25 -0500 (EST) From: Skinner To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) tapes In-Reply-To: <0.8937fae1.259d3947@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) On Thu, 30 Dec 1999 Igotdavibe@aol.com wrote: -> -> dude if you make anymore copy's send my way i am in NY -> -> 3789 Barger Street -> Shrub Oak,NY 10588 -> Jeff -> i'll send you one of my tapes and my boi Jungle Gym tape too -> Cool now I know where to send my pie bombs too!.. Remember people try to keep addy's and stuff to personal emails.. :) -- +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | skinner@skinner.org | Hardcore-Gabber-List Admin | | ICQ:5824321 AIM:Skinner909 | DarkStep-DnB-List Admin | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ | Skinner's Personal Ego | http://www.skinner.org | | Black Monolith Records | http://www.blackmonolith.com | +----------------------------+------------------------------+ -Hardcore-Gabber-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/gabber -Darkstep-DnB-List- http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/darkstep From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Dec 31 02:32:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9915 invoked by uid 6000); 31 Dec 1999 02:32:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 9905 invoked from network); 31 Dec 1999 02:32:38 -0000 Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (205.188.157.33) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 Dec 1999 02:32:38 -0000 Received: from Shirei3000@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id v.0.6d0287f2 (6931) for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 21:32:08 -0500 (EST) From: Shirei3000@aol.com Message-ID: <0.6d0287f2.259d6fa8@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 21:32:08 EST Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) DOn't Ever Fall Asleep with Ed Rush PLaying... To: darkstep@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) And what record is this? I've been out of the loop of the no u-turn gang for a while now. Does it sound anything like panacea? From darkstep-owner-darkstep-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Dec 31 03:57:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: darkstep-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17007 invoked by uid 6000); 31 Dec 1999 03:57:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 16986 invoked from network); 31 Dec 1999 03:57:22 -0000 Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.128.51) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 31 Dec 1999 03:57:22 -0000 Received: from mindspring.com (user-2ivei2s.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.72.92]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA27028 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 22:57:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <386C29A0.4D8203C8@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 22:57:24 -0500 From: Matthew Williams Organization: www.visia9.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [de] (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darkstep@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (DARKSTEP) DOn't Ever Fall Asleep with Ed Rush PLaying... References: <0.6d0287f2.259d6fa8@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: darkstep-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: list Reply-To: darkstep@hyperreal.org List-Help:, List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Post: (plain text only - no MIME) List-Owner: , (Administrator) CD: Metalhaedz Presentz Platinum Breakz II. Thoough the individual tracks on this are easy to find. Shirei3000@aol.com schrieb: > > And what record is this? I've been out of the loop of the no u-turn gang for > a while now. Does it sound anything like panacea?