Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 14:55:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: ATOM HEART LIST <adivakaran@worldbank.org>, alaric@io.com,
aran@mit.edu, atomheart@tursa.franken.de, carterkl@ix.netcom.com,
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Subject: Re: Trivia Questions #1 through #5.
Ok.
Since we've lured in quite a few more members to our list, I'm going
to bring back the trivia questions again (since they were never really
answered). Most of you new people I met over rec.music.industrial, and are
more into LB than any of Uwe's other projects, so hopefully you'll be able
to help us fill in the blanks...
...the original (first) question was this:
> Anyone know why the album is called: "Render Audible: U.S. Remixes"?
^ ^
On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Christopher Miller (that's me) attempted to answer:
> I was sitting around one day wondering what LB's "Render Audible:
> U.S. Remixes" has to do with the U.S.? I mean, was it remixed somewhere
> over here in the States? Was it initially intended for U.S. release
> (promoting LB), but then got panned and was only released in Europe?
>
> Then it hit me. It's so obvious, and unless someone proves me wrong
> otherwise, I would have to say that the U.S. stands for nothing other
> than: ^ ^
> Uwe Schmidt
^ ^
On Wed, 17 Jan 1996 John Wise furthered (cryptically):
> Just gotta respond to this one......you are getting good.....might it
> also have something to do with Ms. Carbon's trip to the U.S. prior to
> remixes...? hmmmm.....?
Ok. So am I even remotely close? Fill us in, John.
And then as if that wasn't enough, John added four more interesting
questions to the query:
2. On Uwe's early releases he credits a studio in Belgium.....What
studio and what city?
3. Who's voice was sampled to create the word 'render' of which is on
same titled album?
4. Why was the first Atom Heart release titled 'Whitehouse'?
5. What became of the release 'Weird Shit'?
We've since determined the answer to #3 as "William S. Burroughs".
My friend Howie (who's not on the list but hangs out at my house way
too much) answered #4 by saying "it's because they sampled the band
WHITEHOUSE", which is apparently also correct. I still have to maintain my
point about the fact that the entire song is pretty much a sample-thon of
the D.H.S. song "The House Of God"... I figure that this has also got
something to do with it.
Anyway we've still got #2 and #5 to go, so any insight would be
greatly appreciated. I'm trying to think of some more questions for future
posts - any ideas are also welcome. Why? Cause I want to know everything
there is to know about ATOM HEART!
enasni.
christopher miller
evil@digital.net
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 19:05:00 -0800
From: Todd Boozer <carterkl@ix.netcom.com>
To: ATOM HEART LIST <adivakaran@worldbank.org>, alaric@io.com,
aran@mit.edu, atomheart@tursa.franken.de, carterkl@ix.netcom.com,
chillspc@cadvision.com, christian_stender@public.uni-hamburg.de,
dfm8@columbia.edu, dmanning@cwis.unomaha.edu, dogstar@iac.net,
edm@netcom.com, ehill@best.com, evil@digital.net, faxlabel@sirius.com,
gd@interramp.com, gkvrshek@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu, grof@chuma.cas.usf.edu,
halvx2@resrocket.com, harry@sn.no, hb@bitstream.net,
james.p.kirby-1@tc.umn.edu, jwarr@dial.pipex.com,
martinej@rohan.sdsu.edu, mcoleman@wsnet.com, mitch@teleport.com,
mkolmar@ccs.nslsilus.org, peter.gebert@uni-konstanz.de,
ron@devi.rtvf.nwu.edu, sf2ev@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us, tlr@stacken.kth.se,
wally@nicar.org, will@panix.com, wise@netzone.com
Subject: Re: Who is Lisa Carbon?
I am going to take the time to straighten out this Whole Lisa Carbon
business. Split hairs and end the mystery. To my knowledge there are
three Carbon LPs and a 12" ::
^ Opto Freestyle Swing 12" pod communications
^ Lisa ep cd pod
^ Lisa carbon ep cd sonic/instinct ?reissue of the pod Ep?
^ polyester lp REphlex
^ POd communications presents AH cd Instinct 1 track
^ Atom Heart V.1 pod 1 track
^ appears on recent RI release
I dont honestly know if she exists. The cover to the Lisa Pod cd has a
picture of a big haired pixie faced blond lass looking like she took too
much acid.
Also i saw the cover to I "Tinned Music" CD in the same distributor
catalog. I am going to try to get in touch with the distributor and
attempt to order these CD's
I can remember the names of the pod and sonic cd's by Lisa Carbon and my
discography is at home. I'll finish this later.
Boozer Carterkl@netcom.com
>> ZeiTBoozer c/o ARS.NOVA.music.consultant@ix.netcom.com <<
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 16:21:25 -0700
From: John Wise <wise@netzone.com>
To: Aqua Regis <dogstar@iac.net>
Cc: <adivakaran@worldbank.org>, alaric@io.com, aran@mit.edu,
atomheart@tursa.franken.de, carterkl@ix.netcom.com,
chillspc@cadvision.com, christian_stender@public.uni-hamburg.de,
dfm8@columbia.edu, dmanning@cwis.unomaha.edu, edm@netcom.com,
ehill@best.com, evil@digital.net, faxlabel@sirius.com,
gd@interramp.com, gkvrshek@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu, grof@chuma.cas.usf.edu,
halvx2@resrocket.com, harry@sn.no, hb@bitstream.net,
james.p.kirby-1@tc.umn.edu, jwarr@dial.pipex.com,
martinej@rohan.sdsu.edu, mcoleman@wsnet.com, mitch@teleport.com,
mkolmar@ccs.nslsilus.org, peter.gebert@uni-konstanz.de,
ron@devi.rtvf.nwu.edu, sf2ev@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us, tlr@stacken.kth.se,
wally@nicar.org, will@panix.com
Subject: Answer to Lassigue remix
Endraum is a friend of Uwe's - His name is Roman and his original projects
were titled 'Schaum Der Tage' - (prior to pod) Olaf of pod communication
put out his first releases along with some old FLA on K7........
Lisa Carbon is Atom Heart and visa-versa.........
At 04:21 PM 2/11/96 -0500, you wrote:
> i saw something in a magazine yesterday which mentioned a group called
> Endraum that has a single (or an ep, i'm not sure) out called "Appell an
> die Muse" which has a remix by Lassigue Bendthaus. i didn't see a record
> label or anything mentioned. and i don't recall seeing this in a
> discography...
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 22:46:12 -0500 (EST)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: ATOM HEART LIST <adivakaran@worldbank.org>, alaric@io.com,
aran@mit.edu, atomheart@tursa.franken.de, carterkl@ix.netcom.com,
chillspc@cadvision.com, christian_stender@public.uni-hamburg.de,
dfm8@columbia.edu, dmanning@cwis.unomaha.edu, dogstar@iac.net,
edm@netcom.com, ehill@best.com, evil@digital.net, faxlabel@sirius.com,
gd@interramp.com, gkvrshek@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu, grof@chuma.cas.usf.edu,
halvx2@resrocket.com, harry@sn.no, hb@bitstream.net,
james.p.kirby-1@tc.umn.edu, jwarr@dial.pipex.com,
martinej@rohan.sdsu.edu, mcoleman@wsnet.com, mitch@teleport.com,
mkolmar@ccs.nslsilus.org, peter.gebert@uni-konstanz.de,
ron@devi.rtvf.nwu.edu, sf2ev@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us, tlr@stacken.kth.se,
wally@nicar.org, will@panix.com, wise@netzone.com
cc: John Wise <wise@netzone.com>
Subject: Re: Who is Lisa Carbon?
On Sun, 11 Feb 1996, John Wise muttered:
> Lisa Carbon is Atom Heart and visa-versa.........
Aw man. There's no way you're going to get away with slipping this in
at the end of a message. Come on John - spill it!
How and WHY is 'Lisa Carbon is Atom Heart and visa-versa'?? What I
mean is why does it always say on all LC releases stuff like "All tracks
produced by Lisa Carbon and Atom Heart"?
^^^
Maybe 'Lisa' is the name Uwe uses when he hits the drag bars in
Amsterdam. Yeah, I can see that... in fact, I can actually picture him all
dolled-up like that lady who sings "Yes I Have No Bananas", while sitting
in front of his 24-track (or whatever he has), twisting knobs and beating
on the congos. Huh?
Anyway, if AH does indeed equal LC, then why always the duality in the
credits then? I was actually hoping that LC was an actual person...
nobrac.
christopher miller
evil@digital.net
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 09:22:35 -0700
From: John Wise <wise@netzone.com>
To: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
Cc: ATOM HEART LIST <adivakaran@worldbank.org>, alaric@io.com,
aran@mit.edu, atomheart@tursa.franken.de, carterkl@ix.netcom.com,
chillspc@cadvision.com, christian_stender@public.uni-hamburg.de,
dfm8@columbia.edu, dmanning@cwis.unomaha.edu, dogstar@iac.net,
edm@netcom.com, ehill@best.com, evil@digital.net, faxlabel@sirius.com,
gd@interramp.com, gkvrshek@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu, grof@chuma.cas.usf.edu,
halvx2@resrocket.com, harry@sn.no, hb@bitstream.net,
james.p.kirby-1@tc.umn.edu, jwarr@dial.pipex.com,
martinej@rohan.sdsu.edu, mcoleman@wsnet.com, mitch@teleport.com,
mkolmar@ccs.nslsilus.org, peter.gebert@uni-konstanz.de,
ron@devi.rtvf.nwu.edu, sf2ev@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us, tlr@stacken.kth.se,
wally@nicar.org, will@panix.com
Subject: Re: Who is Pink Carbon?
Pink Elln is Sieg Uber Die Sonne, Phobia, Mazzo and a part-time member of
Lassigue Bendthaus - Pink Elln is not Atom Heart.
Lisa Carbon is Atom Heart.........just as is Datacide, i, +n, and some
others......you see the problem was Atom Heart for awhile was with Rough
Trade, so Schmidt could not release under the name Atom Heart, but he could
produce other Artists.......get the idea....?
John Wise is not three women, but his work has appeared under 17 different
monickers, so he is a multitude of people..... you can blame this move on
Uwe himself, and Uwe's behaviour...blame on GTO......
>> So. What you're saying is that Pink Elln also is Atom Heart... but
>> my real question is:
>>
>> is Uwe Schmidt Atom Heart?
>
> ...and if Lisa Heart is Atomic Boy, is Pink Elln really Shakespeare,
> or was Jon Wise actually three women? Ooh, my head...
>
> .gnitseretninu rehtar
>
>
> howie stelzer (c/o christopher miller)
> evil@ddi.digital.net
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 10:27:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Hal Vx2 <halvx2@io.org>
To: Mark Coleman <mcoleman@wsnet.com>
cc: ATOM HEART LIST <adivakaran@worldbank.org>, alaric@io.com,
aran@mit.edu, atomheart@tursa.franken.de, carterkl@ix.netcom.com,
chillspc@cadvision.com, christian_stender@public.uni-hamburg.de,
dfm8@columbia.edu, dmanning@cwis.unomaha.edu, dogstar@iac.net,
edm@netcom.com, ehill@best.com, evil@digital.net, faxlabel@sirius.com,
gd@interramp.com, gkvrshek@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu, grof@chuma.cas.usf.edu,
halvx2@resrocket.com, harry@sn.no, hb@bitstream.net,
james.p.kirby-1@tc.umn.edu, jwarr@dial.pipex.com,
martinej@rohan.sdsu.edu, mcoleman@wsnet.com, mitch@teleport.com,
mkolmar@ccs.nslsilus.org, peter.gebert@uni-konstanz.de,
ron@devi.rtvf.nwu.edu, sf2ev@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us, tlr@stacken.kth.se,
wally@nicar.org, will@panix.com
Subject: Message from UWE
Hi there,
Just a slight explaination concerning the a.h. live shows (I read the
comment about my sydney gig...)
Well, the concept is to play with one machine only, which is the akai mpc
3000 (sampler/sequencer/mixer/fx all in one). I prepare different
patterns/sounds beforehand and decide before or even during the gig which
*tracks* I will perform and interpret live. Each of the tracks can go into
totally different directions. Depending on the feedback from the audience,
the stage sound, personal mood, location, etc. I am filtering the music
and morph it into different directions. This means although I just had
five disks with me in australia I played a different set each time. My
main aim is getting a *vibe* from the audience which I can feedback. The
worse concerts are those with no vibration, no feedback and mostly with a
boring crowd (that feedbacks to me and makes me a bored musician on stage).
The best concerts happen when the whole place is moving. In order to
achieve this I have to be very concentrated, diving in the music, instead
of presenting a big show by pretending action. All the action I show is
the action need to perform my show (therefore it is electronic music and
_not_ rock). If you are expecting *show* instead of *music* you are on the
wrong planet. I think it is absolutely necessary that the listener is
*listening* and not only looking in order to enjoy. It needs an active
listener and not somebody who wants to be entertained without giving (maybe
you should rather watch tv then...).
Back to the sydney gig (which was a very good one, even the best I played
down under although a pissed aussie came on stage and asked me to stop
(which I did)... He was taken off stage***). As remarked correctly from
Charles later in your discussion, it is when travelling that far, it is
sometimes impossible to take all your equipment with you. For the
Australia gigs I could not take my syquest drive with me and mad to fit my
whole show on five disks. This means it takes a while loading the
sounds/sequences, not like when using the syquest which loads within
seconds. I had to come up with a trick which was a cd player. Before I
went to australia I burnt a 70 minute cd containing sounds/sequences/fx
which I just programmed for this purpose. In the *loading gaps* between
the tracks I played little scapes from the cd (interludes) until the next
track was loaded (max. 30sec.). That s the whole story about the cd
player, little detectives. You saw a dat on stage??? Well, somehow I have
to tape it... Stoopid
Uwe
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 20:07:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: ATOM HEART LIST <adivakaran@worldbank.org>, alaric@io.com,
aran@mit.edu, atomheart@tursa.franken.de, carterkl@ix.netcom.com,
chillspc@cadvision.com, christian_stender@public.uni-hamburg.de,
dfm8@columbia.edu, dmanning@cwis.unomaha.edu, dogstar@iac.net,
edm@netcom.com, ehill@best.com, evil@digital.net, faxlabel@sirius.com,
gd@interramp.com, gkvrshek@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu, grof@chuma.cas.usf.edu,
halvx2@resrocket.com, harry@sn.no, hb@bitstream.net,
james.p.kirby-1@tc.umn.edu, jwarr@dial.pipex.com,
martinej@rohan.sdsu.edu, mcoleman@wsnet.com, mitch@teleport.com,
mkolmar@ccs.nslsilus.org, peter.gebert@uni-konstanz.de,
ron@devi.rtvf.nwu.edu, sf2ev@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us, tlr@stacken.kth.se,
wally@nicar.org, will@panix.com, wise@netzone.com
Subject: Re: Who is Pink Carbon?
On Wed, 14 Feb 1996, John Wise wrote:
> Lisa Carbon is Atom Heart.........just as is Datacide, i, +n, and some
> others......you see the problem was Atom Heart for awhile was with Rough
> Trade, so Schmidt could not release under the name Atom Heart, but he
> could produce other Artists.......get the idea....?
Yes and No. DATACIDE is actually Uwe Schmidt with Tetsu Inoue. +N is
Uwe Schmidt with Victor Sol (and sometimes, Stocha and Chris & Cosey).
ee SURREAL is Uwe Schmidt with Olaf Finkbeiner. And taking a bit of a
stretch, URBAN PRIMITIVISM is Uwe Schmidt with you (John). In this same
respect, I always thought that LISA CARBON was Uwe Schmidt with another
actual person, named Lisa Carbon.
^^^^^
From my understanding, the alias of ATOM HEART is pretty much Uwe's
outlet for his solo work, right? So ATOM HEART, in essence equals Uwe
Schmidt. When the credits say "produced by Lisa Carbon and Atom Heart",
that makes no sense really, other than most likely Uwe is just trying to
promote this pseudonym as an AH-related project (by way of instant name-
recognition). So therefore, by your account...
UWE SCHMIDT = ATOM HEART = LISA CARBON
...implying that LC (just as AH), is also an Uwe Schmidt solo project
alias. Right? Whew.
salia.
christopher miller
evil@digital.net
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 17:56:43 -0500 (EST)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: ATOM HEART LIST <adivakaran@worldbank.org>, aguanaut@ix.netcom.com,
alaric@io.com, aran@mit.edu, atomheart@tursa.franken.de,
carterkl@ix.netcom.com, chillspc@cadvision.com,
christian_stender@public.uni-hamburg.de, dfm8@columbia.edu,
dmanning@cwis.unomaha.edu, dogstar@iac.net, edm@netcom.com,
ehill@best.com, evil@digital.net, faxlabel@sirius.com,
gd@interramp.com, gkvrshek@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu, grof@chuma.cas.usf.edu,
halvx2@resrocket.com, harry@sn.no, hb@bitstream.net,
james.p.kirby-1@tc.umn.edu, jwarr@dial.pipex.com,
martinej@rohan.sdsu.edu, mcoleman@wsnet.com, mitch@teleport.com,
mkolmar@ccs.nslsilus.org, peter.gebert@uni-konstanz.de,
ron@devi.rtvf.nwu.edu, sf2ev@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us,
tllewand@beta.loyno.edu, tlr@stacken.kth.se, wally@nicar.org,
will@panix.com, wise@netzone.com
cc: Hal Vx2 <halvx2@io.org>
Subject: Re: Message from UWE
On Thu, 15 Feb 1996, Uwe Schmidt (as transcribed by Hal Vx2) wrote:
> Just a slight explaination concerning the a.h. live shows (I read the
> comment about my sydney gig...)
Does Uwe realize that the comments about the Australia show were not
made by any of us list-members, but rather were forwarded (by me) from
posts made over the Ambient list? I just wouldn't want the voice of our
list to be misinterpreted because of what some naysayer like Don Weir (who
nobody wants on their list anyway) has to say about AH.
I do however have some constructive things to say concerning Uwe's
response, so here they are:
> Each of the tracks can go into totally different directions. Depending
> on the feedback from the audience, the stage sound, personal mood,
> location, etc. My main aim is getting a *vibe* from the audience which I
> can feedback. The worse concerts are those with no vibration, no
> feedback and mostly with a boring crowd (that feedbacks to me and makes
> me a bored musician on stage). The best concerts happen when the whole
> place is moving.
Hm. I -kinda- understand what you're saying... so, does this mean
that if me and a bunch of other freaks start jumping around, screaming, and
generally just flipping out, that you'll go right into that whole URBAN
PRIMITIVISM hardcore gabba thing? Come down to Tampa, Florida Uwe and
we'll give you that symbiotic lovin' you're craving!!
> If you are expecting *show* instead of *music* you are on the wrong
> planet. I think it is absolutely necessary that the listener is
> *listening* and not only looking in order to enjoy. It needs an active
> listener and not somebody who wants to be entertained without giving
> (maybe you should rather watch tv then...).
Agreed. What kind of venue were you playing? That may have been the
problem, because the impression I got (from reading other people's
'reviews', unfortunately) was that this show was probably hyped up and
promoted in the wrong way. Maybe people were expecting you to go into some
kind of mega-bass R.I. groove instead of the 'listening party' you
intended. A low key invitation-only show probably would have served you
better.
> Back to the sydney gig (which was a very good one, even the best I played
> down under although a pissed aussie came on stage and asked me to stop
> (which I did)... He was taken off stage***).
Again Uwe, I've got an extra room in my house, plenty of electricity
(no adaptors, sorry), and a big 'ol pit-set to lounge on. If you're ever
near our point of longitude... well, a private show would be miiiighty
niiiiice. Besides, Don Weir has no idea where I live so you wouldn't have
to worry about any disruptions. ;]
> Stoopid
Hal, you're gonna tell Uwe that it wasn't us who said those bad things
about him, right? All hail Herr Schmidt! See, we like you man...
dipoots.
christopher miller
evil@digital.net