Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 15:08:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: Deckard <njurcin@orion.it.luc.edu>
Cc: Mother <mother@nicar.org>
Subject: (mother) Re: Elfish Echo...
On Fri, 30 May 1997, Noah asked:
> Does anyone know where i could pick up Elfish Echo new?
> You know, mail-order url music shops and what not...
Well, pretty much any place that carries Fax stuff I would imagine
(since it's on KM20). Try EAR/Rational <ear@xmission.com> or any one of
the other IDM-oriented mailorder spots.
Speaking of ELFISH ECHO, has anyone heard of any new releases/projects
coming out by him in the near future? I really liked "Sato Yumiko" (I
recommend this for anyone on this list, btw), and was wondering if there
was more? Oh, and thanks to Sean Cooper for opening my ears to this. (:
ohce.
.`--).
o o ._)
christopher miller ==;'
evil@digital.net =='
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on: "Hard Normal Daddy" by SQUAREPUSHER
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 13:43:13 -0800
From: Sean Cooper <scooper@best.com>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Re: Elfish Echo...
> Speaking of ELFISH ECHO, has anyone heard of any new releases/
> projects coming out by him in the near future?
haven't heard anything about new ee, but the similar-sounding bisk project
by naohiro fujikawa has a new one out, _strange or funny ha ha?_ (sub
rosa). a full review is forthcoming, but here's what the new issue of the
wire had to say:
"bisk is hyogo-based producer naohiro fujikawa. to answer the question
posed by the album title, there are precious few belly laughs, but lots of
unsettling moments in the stop/start collage of radio frequencies,
epileptic rhythms and crumbling electronics. on 'chattering jazz' he throws
in atoms of sax and scratching effects which sound like stinging insects to
accompany a somber piano melody. a frustrating and fascinating experience."
sc
p.s. i like _senor coconut_! a few of the tracks suffer under their own
sampledelic weight, but they're all well-done and the few that mix the
perez prado redux with ah's own careening electro rhythms are mind-
blowing and worthy of uwe's rep as a relentless experimenter...nice.
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 21:18:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: ATOM HEART/LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS LIST <mother@nicar.org>
Subject: (mother) lead - Lisa Carbon, Second Nature, Datacide
Yup.
This person has the following AH/related items up for grabs in their
current FS list:
jemiller@tsrcom.com
> Atom Heart/Tetsu Inoue/Bill Laswell - Second Nature[SubMeta] - $12
> (new-excellent condition)
> Lisa Carbon & Friends(w/ Atom Heart) - Experimental Post Techno Swing
> - [Instinct] $6
> Datacide - Flowerhead [Rather Interesting] - trade
E-mail them for their trade list.
tcnitsni.
.`--).
o o ._)
christopher miller ==;'
evil@digital.net =='
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Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 20:34:03 -0500 (CDT)
From: phlux@ix.netcom.com
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Atom Heart Discog ?
Just wondering if there is a complete Atom Heart discog up anywhere ?
the one on hyperreal seems to be missing a few things
Also I just order the Atom Heart "Shellglove" disc .....what can I expect ?
ROB
**********LOGIQ'S NEW CD****************
BIG ON MARS
11 Tracks of Electronic Bliss
http://www.sinless.com/logiq
****************************************
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 22:03:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: ATOM HEART/LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS LIST <mother@nicar.org>
Cc: Nathan Jantz <obliq@ares.csd.net>
Subject: (mother) lead - Hypnotism releases (non-AH)
Um.
I know these two discs have nothing to do with Uwe (except for maybe
the cover artwork?), but I just thought I'd forward this lead here for
anyone who might be interested:
---------- Forwarded Message ----------
Date: 26 May 1997 12:19:45 GMT
From: PUCKERED1 <puckered1@aol.com>
Newsgroups: rec.music.ambient
Subject: EYEPHONE & ALEX MARTIN CD's FOR SALE
Eyephone-"Evergreens"-CD-$15
Alex Martin-"Pieces For Endless Riddle"-CD-$15
prices include postage! both are BRAND-NEW!
email if interested
---------- End ----------
enohpeye.
.`--).
o o ._)
christopher miller ==;'
evil@digital.net =='
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Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 22:13:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: ATOM HEART/LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS LIST <mother@nicar.org>
Subject: (mother) lead - "Who's Fist Is This Anyway" by PRONG (with LB
remix)
Ziglexicrofitrad.
Hey chimps, this guy's got the following disc (which includes a pretty
hip LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS remix) up for grabs in his muchmuch larger FS list:
Prophet Nicodemus <craigs@csd.uwm.edu>
> PRONG:whose fist is this anyway?, 6 song ep, mixes by FOETUS and RAVEN,
> $6
gnorp.
.`--).
o o ._)
christopher miller ==;'
evil@digital.net =='
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Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 22:26:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jason J Tar <tarjason@pilot.msu.edu>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) lead - "Who's Fist Is This Anyway" by PRONG
(with LB remix)
> Hey chimps, this guy's got the following disc (which includes a
> pretty hip LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS remix) up for grabs in his muchmuch larger
> FS list:
> Prophet Nicodemus <craigs@csd.uwm.edu>
>
> > PRONG:whose fist is this anyway?, 6 song ep, mixes by FOETUS and RAVEN,
> > $6
I'm not one to usually doubt Chris, but me thinks the Lassigue Bendthaus
mix isn't on here. I thought it was only on the promo ep and on the import
single, and the domestic lacks that mix. (Can't be overly positive, as I
only have the promo which has the mix, but I do think so...) (Actually
there were two promos with the mix, one that just had 2 songs, and another
with 4 songs.) But me thinks Chris is wrong here. Might wanna double check
with the person before sending off your cash.
(It is a great mix though. If only I might find more AHeart in this vein
<hint, hint to anyone that might know of some...>)
--
Yours Truly,
Jason J. Tar
peace, hugs and unity
Vampire Rodents (+Ether Bunny and Dilate) page at:
pilot.msu.edu/user/tarjason/VRodents.htm
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 22:44:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: Jason J Tar <tarjason@pilot.msu.edu>
Cc: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Re: lead - "Who's Fist Is This Anyway" by PRONG
(with LB remix)
On Sun, 1 Jun 1997, Jason J Tar wrote:
> I'm not one to usually doubt Chris, but me thinks the Lassigue Bendthaus
> mix isn't on here. I thought it was only on the promo ep and on the
> import single, and the domestic lacks that mix. (Can't be overly
> positive, as I only have the promo which has the mix, but I do think
> so...) (Actually there were two promos with the mix, one that just had 2
> songs, and another with 4 songs.)
Hm. I didn't know there were others. This is the one I do know about
though:
> WHOSE FIST IS THIS ANYWAY? : PRONG (1994)
> 2 SNAP YOUR FINGERS, SNAP YOUR NECK (harder than hardcore) 7.52
> US (CDS. ESK 6063 (deleted)) EPIC
>
> note: The US cd single for "Whose Fist Is This Anyway?" credits to track
> #2: "REMIXED BY ATOM HEART".
I was just assuming that the one that guy hd up for sale had the
LB-remix, so follow Jason's advice and ask first. Sorry for the possible
mis-information. :P
> (It is a great mix though. If only I might find more AHeart in this vein
> <hint, hint to anyone that might know of some...>)
You like the harsher stuff, hm? I think you'd reallyreally dig his
*two* remixes on the "Get O." ep by SWAMP TERRORISTS. There's one that
even sounds like a retro-crunchy MBM (my favorite). The only other remixes
I've ever heard are the one by L.I.N. (thanks to you Jason, but now I've
got to find the other one?), and the supercool "Cloned"-like remix on
"RemeberMeRemix" by PANKOW.
Man, it's hard as all-fuck to find Uwe-remixes. Someone help me out.
niev.
.`--).
o o ._)
christopher miller ==;'
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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 12:58:02 -0400
From: William Perez <will@panix.com>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Elfish Echo...
> Speaking of ELFISH ECHO, has anyone heard of any new releases/
> projects coming out by him in the near future? I really liked "Sato
> Yumiko" (I recommend this for anyone on this list, btw), and was
> wondering if there was more? Oh, and thanks to Sean Cooper for opening
> my ears to this. (:
Did you hear the first Elfish Echo? This was released on Source and if I
remember correctly, I liked it better than the new one on KM20. They're
both quite good. I probably shouldn't say this... but I heard from a very
reliable informant that Elfish Echo is another alias for David Moufang.
For those who don't know, Moufang is aka MoveD (on Source/FAX/Warp). He
runs both KM20 and Source and is one half of Deep Space Network.
Anybody hear the new KM20 compilation yet? I'll probably listen to my copy
tonight. Amp II is not all that on first listen (a bit too minimal and
uninteresting for the most part) while SeÒor Coconut is a lot of fun (as
expected) which I look forward to hearing more of.
/ / / / / / mailto:will@panix.com
(_/__/ / (__ (__ http://www.panix.com/~will/
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 12:49:09 -0400
From: William Perez <will@panix.com>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) Atom Heart Discog ?
phlux@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> Just wondering if there is a complete Atom Heart discog up anywhere ?
> the one on hyperreal seems to be missing a few things
please let me know what you think is missing. I'm getting ready to update
the discography pretty soon. The info is direct from Atom Heart himself
except that I consolidated a number of the reissues and added extra info
for a few items. I should check with him to see if he has updated his
version anytime recently.
> Also I just order the Atom Heart "Shellglove" disc ....what can I expect?
I just ordered my copy too from Modern Music. I have the 12" single (with
remixes) which is pretty upbeat and funky. I haven't actually heard the
album though so we'll see.
/ / / / / / mailto:will@panix.com
(_/__/ / (__ (__ http://www.panix.com/~will/
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 10:30:34 -0800
From: Sean Cooper <scooper@best.com>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) Elfish Echo...
> Did you hear the first Elfish Echo? This was released on Source and if I
> remember correctly, I liked it better than the new one on KM20. They're
> both quite good. I probably shouldn't say this... but I heard from a
> very reliable informant that Elfish Echo is another alias for David
> Moufang. For those who don't know, Moufang is aka MoveD (on Source/FAX/
> Warp). He runs both KM20 and Source and is one half of Deep Space
> Network.
i can't seem to track this album down. if anyone has a copy for sale or
trade i would be extremely interested. anyway, i kind of doubt it's
moufang. the style is ages away from even the most abstract of moufang's
stuff that i've heard. but i could be wrong...
sc
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 17:18:49 -0800
From: Sean Cooper <scooper@best.com>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Review: Bisk.Strange Or Funny-Haha?
here is the bisk review i indicated was forthcoming. another for the atom
heart preferences engine...my apologies to the purists.
-----------------------
Bisk.Strange Or Funny-Haha? (Sub Rosa) 1997
Bisk's second full-length album for Sub Rosa is both strange and funny-
haha; strange in its almost unprecedented fusion of vagued-out electronica
(electro, experimental hip-hop, left-field drum'n'bass...but all of these
only barely) with everything from manic bop and Zorn-esque post-free jazz
to avant-gardist loop'n'splice tape massacre and plunderphonic sound
collage; and funny-haha...well, for much the same reason. Hyogo-based
Naohiro Fujikawa's extreme methods of genre-obliterating abstraction are so
warped and smeared that sometimes the only thing you can do is shake your
head and laugh. However, like its predecessor, last year's =Time=,
=Strange= lurks in shadows, its restless buzz approximating the paranoid
fidget of a schizophrenic battling a radio dial. As suggested, some of
these tracks are probably more adequately described as sample-based free
jazz (except that they usually have some sort of recurring structure...
often only barely perceptible, but it's there), with massively tweaked and
distorted (but also quite clean and extremely well-produced) textures
providing the basis for the music, not the more conventional synth patches,
lfo/vcf modulation, and percussion sounds and patterns associated with 90
percent of dance-based electronic music. Recent Atom Heart (_Built_,
_Brown_, _Hat_) and Elfish Echo's _Sato Yumiko_ are still the closest
touchpoints, but Bisk is arguably more severe in his approach, with clangy,
often noise-based rhythmic structures adding a sharp, threatening edge.
Oddly, the whole thing remains damn funky, as well, and miles away from the
soulless sampleblurt noodlings of yer Jon Oswalds, Ground Zeros, etc. Think
maybe David Shea crossed with the Black Dog, shitfaced, wrestling with
Rakim and AMM on a bullet train outside of William Gibson's Tokyo etc.
"Experimental" does not even come close.
Rating: 9
CD1. Tuning
CD2. Convergence
CD3. Rolling And Pitching
CD4. Momentary Stir
CD5. Rhythm And Blues
CD6. Chattering Jazz
CD7. Viscosity One
CD8. Gamelan
CD9. Viscosity Two
---------------------------
sc
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 13:40:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: Hal Vx2 <macos@icomm.ca>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) del haze news june 1997
del haze entertainment
*news june 1997*
________________________________________________
*music*
- rather interesting release in june will be the cd >fonosandwich<. number
one in rather interesting's >and don't forget to brush your teeth<
series.
- the albums >datacide: ondas< and >lisa carbon: trio de janeiro<, both
released on rather interesting in 1996/97 will be out the 26th of june on
haruomi hosono's >daisy world< label. as a license from >r.i.< these
albums will be available in asia only. the >lisa carbon< album >trio de
janeiro< will include two unreleased bonus tracks, especially recorded
for the release of this cd in japan. prior to the official release of
both cd's, a limited edition of promotional copies were distributed
containing different artwork and excerpts from the final albums.
*design*
- linger decoree project in june is designing the exhibition-catalog of the
chilean, new york based artist veronica vega, who is presenting her work
in santiago.
*communication*
- the 170th member joined macos
- new macos (musicians against copyrighting of samples) internet address:
http://www.icomm.ca/macos
- macos mailing list: macos-list@resrocket.com
- macos e-mail address: macos@icomm.ca
- atom heart website: http://www.hyperreal.com/music/artists/atom_heart
- atom heart booking: infect entertainment., attn. kayja, tel:
++49-(0)6021/46148, fax: ++49-(0)6021/460485
- rather interesting mailorder: emc distribution service, tel/fax:
++49-(0)6039/45406. e-mail: thier@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de
- del haze entertainment fax: ++56-2/3419870
*we sabotage in june*
01. cubase
02. stereo panning delays
03. any kind of quantization
04. vinyl
05. dropshadows
del haze entertainment, calle federico frodid 1792, providencia, santiago,
chile. fax: --56-2-3419870
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 11:27:05 -0800
From: Sean Cooper <scooper@best.com>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) del haze news june 1997
> *we sabotage in june*
>
> 04. vinyl
what does this mean, ri will FINALLY be printing vinyl? or ri will hate
vinyl more than they already do (which, in practical terms, doesn't really
seem possible)? anything i can do to agitate for the former, please don't
hesitate to get in touch...
thanks,
sc, vinyl junkie
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 18:49:32 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mark Kolmar <mkolmar@xnet.com>
To: ATOM HEART/LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS LIST <mother@nicar.org>
Subject: Re: (mother) lead - "Who's Fist Is This Anyway" by PRONG
(with LB remix)
This is a good EP -- the Foetus mixes are excellent electronified metal --
but it isn't the one with the LB remix.
I have a copy of the "Snap Your Fingers, Snap Your Neck" EP for sale which
-does- contain the LB remix. $7 obo.
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 03:10:31 +0200 (MET DST)
From: IT Hz <harryw@sn.no>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) lead - "Who's Fist Is This Anyway" by PRONG
(with LB remix)
> If only I might find more AHeart in this vein <hint, hint to anyone that
> might know of some...>
Well ,I don¥t know(since I haven¥t heard it),but have u got the 2CD Swamp
Terrorists "GET-O"(includes a LB remix)...just in case u didn¥t know
Ciao,hw
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 03:13:48 +0000
From: Mixmaster Morris <morris@space.demon.co.uk>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) Elfish Echo...
>> Speaking of ELFISH ECHO
yes both cds are excellent
i actually found a 12" of this in tokyo which was a bonus
japanese were very confused that he has a girls name!
mixmaster morris
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Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 01:01:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: ATOM HEART/LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS LIST <mother@nicar.org>
Cc: Daniel Roshoff <e95_dro@e.kth.se>
Subject: (mother) Yay.
Chimpadres.
I *finally* got DATACIDE 2 today. Deepdeep thanks go out to Daniel
Roshoff <e95_dro@e.kth.se> for his overly-generous trade. See? Making
`WTB:' posts really do pay off!
Now, can someone direct me to a copy of the "Repetitive Digital Noise"
disc by _i_ por favor? This one's proving just as hard to locate. :(
edicatad.
.`--).
o o ._)
christopher miller ==;'
evil@digital.net =='
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on: "Slow + Low" by TETSU INOUE
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 12:47:04 +0200
From: 607744 - Nuno Manuel Tavares Proenca <nunotava@mail.telepac.pt>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Re: Song info on RI compilations #1 and #2 -
puzzling questions
> Datacide is Headphone music if nothing else. Listen to Flowerhead without
> Headphones and then again with...The album becomes something quite
> amazing through the use of Headphones. New sounds come from nowhere.
> Sounds actually become alive dense and layerd. Ondas may say "headphone
> use not recommended" but this is ajoke. Just look at the inside of the
> booklet!! What's she wearin on her pretty little head? Get the joke now?
> If it says Datacide..pull out them headphones or you'll never really know
> what your missing.
> reezoober
After all this, I just had to go and buy the record. It's wonderfull. Great
music to listen to after a long, hard working day. Although listening to
the record with headphones can be quite an experience (and a unique one
too, I think). I definatelly prefer to hear it through regular hi-fi
loudspeakers.
Oh ! And I also bought the incredible, wonderfull, marvelous, amazing,
astonishing senor coconut. It is without question one of the best records I
have in my collection, and certainly the best work of Uwe 'till now.
For you who do not understand Spanish I took the liberty of translating the
text in the cover. ie: the song title (if needed) and the following text
below. If you don't want to know, read no more! :-)
El coco Baile - The coconut dance
Special guest unknown artist playing and absurd drum solo
Supertropical
additional programming by Atom Heart
chocolatina - Milk Shake (or small chocolate bar)
title inspired by Arielle
upper mambo/lower funk
passionate latino rap by Jorge Gonzalez
pisco control
moog solo by Lisa Carbon
mambo.val
greetings to senor popp and senor oschatz
la noche cool - the cool night
title induced by saint peter
suavito - very smooth
chorus by arielle
musica moderna - modern music
piano solo programmed by lisa carbon, flute played by ricardito tambo
diarios clave - (calave also has the meaning KEY)
special guest chico rodriguez (calve left channel), mpc 3000 (clave right
channel) and mch (mono/japonese ticket scratching)
ayudaron: - helped:
PS: I also purchased Dream Injection 1. It features a song by Atom Heart "I
see more...". Wher can I find it ?
#1. :-) #2. :~) #3. [:-)] #4. >:->
SWM-"Mission: To reconstruct the sonic landscape
in order to preserve imagination.
We are sound. We are never what you think we are.
We ask you to join the ancient dance.
We love you and want you to join the sound with us."
Nuno
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 07:23:09 -0500
From: GD <g-d@worldnet.att.net>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Tetsu Inoue recommendations
Howdy folks,
After listening to a couple of AH/Tetsu team-ups (HAT and Datacide-
Flowerhead) I've decided to invest in some other Tetsu material. Any
recommendations on the collabo or solo tip?
GD
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 08:50:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: ATOM HEART/LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS LIST <mother@nicar.org>
Subject: (mother) Re: Song info on RI compilations #1 and #2 - puzzling
questions
On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, Nuno Proenca wrote:
> Oh ! And I also bought the incredible, wonderfull, marvelous, amazing,
> astonishing senor coconut. It is without question one of the best records
> I have in my collection, and certainly the best work of Uwe 'till now.
Isn't it though? Maybe not the best, but truly amazing nonetheless.
The big horns on it kind of remind me of the STEROID MAXIMUS (aka Jim
Thirlwell/Raymond Watts + others) albums at some points. I mean, as soon
as the first song starts, I know it's going to be a powerhouse (pun
intended). I just wish that the `latin jungle' in "El coco Baile" would've
kept on throughout though... it just kind of peters off. This album is
definitely the first of its kind.
Oh, and isn't that `Senor Uwe' on the front? Dye job?
> For you who do not understand Spanish I took the liberty of translating
> the text in the cover. ie: the song title (if needed) and the following
> text below.
Thank you, Nuno. (:
> I also purchased Dream Injection 1. It features a song by Atom Heart "I
> see more...". Wher can I find it ?
If it is indeed the same song that I'm thinking of, then it's entire
title is "I See More Than You Do". It's on the ATOM HEART album called
"Morphogenetic Fields". The disc is on Rough Trade (Germany), but I'm not
sure if/where you can still get it.
Can anyone verify this?
> diarios clave - (calave also has the meaning KEY)
> special guest chico rodriguez (calve left channel), mpc 3000 (clave
> right channel) and mch (mono/japonese ticket scratching)
There's that `MCH' again.
evalc.
.`--).
o o ._)
christopher miller ==;'
evil@digital.net =='
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on: "Datacide 2" by DATACIDE
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 09:19:23 -0400
From: "Jason J. Tar" <tarjason@pilot.msu.edu>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) FS/T
Ok, preparing an update to my for sale list, and thought I'd offer two Uwe
related items here first...
POD communication presents: ATOM HEART compilation on Sonic
Techopolis 12 feat: Lassigue Bendthaus "Static (razormaid mix)"
(this comp also features: Psychic TV, DAF, Coil, Solar Enemy,
CabVoltaire, etc mixed by Razormaid.)
Mainly interested in trades but will consider cash offers. (AHeart things
I'm looking for include Lassigue Bendthaus material and Shellglove)
BTW-ordered 'Senor Coconut' last night, hope it sounds as good as it reads.
Peace Hugs and Unity,
Jason J. Tar
W. W. J. D. http://pilot.msu.edu/user/tarjason
(What Would Jason Do?)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 09:28:21 -0400
From: "Jason J. Tar" <tarjason@pilot.msu.edu>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) also...
Anyone have a track listing for Lassigue Bendthaus "overload" 12" or
Flextone 2x12"? I got white labels of 'em yesterday in a trade and I'm
kinda interested in what tracks are on 'em. (the Flextone being much
better than I expected it to be!!!)
(My apologies, meant to just tack this onto my other post but forgot.)
NP--Electric Ladyland 2
Peace Hugs and Unity,
Jason J. Tar
W. W. J. D. http://pilot.msu.edu/user/tarjason
(What Would Jason Do?)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 07:44:20 -0600
From: Mark Conklin <kidgrady@ix.netcom.com>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) [ISO-8859-1] Trio De Janeiro vs. Senor Coconut
> Oh ! And I also bought the incredible, wonderfull, marvelous, amazing,
> astonishing senor coconut. It is without question one of the best records
> I have in my collection, and certainly the best work of Uwe 'till now.
How Does Senor Coconut compare with Trio De Janeiro? I bought Trio De
Janeiro and was somewhat disappointed. I really like a few of the cuts, but
I think I was hoping for something a bit more loungey, with more bossa,
more structure, and more melody.
Was a review posted for Senor Coconut that maybe I missed? Or could someone
give me the lowdown?
Thanks,
MC
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 17:02:26 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Hz <harryw@sn.no>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) also...
> Anyone have a track listing for Lassigue Bendthaus "overload" 12" or
> Flextone 2x12"? I got white labels of 'em yesterday in a trade and I'm
> kinda interested in what tracks are on 'em.
You mean "overflow"...don¥t you?
I have the flextone cd..here are the tracks:
1#alaska
2#flextone
3#afterwards I felt better
4#rather abstract
5#sound
6#instant replay
7#fle
8#9#10#don't have any names...
Lassigue Bendthaus"overflow"cdsingle
1#overflow
2#overflow fluid mix
3#overflow eminar mix (produced by speedjack.remix by MarkBell at LFO
studio)
4#overflow sift mix (produced by speedjack.remix by MarkBell at LFO studio)
5#overflow extended
1#2#5# produced & remixed by Lassigue Bendthaus at sel i/s/c
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 10:39:02 -0800
From: Sean Cooper <scooper@best.com>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Re: Song info on RI compilations #1 and #2 -
puzzling questions
> For you who do not understand Spanish I took the liberty of translating
> the text in the cover. ie: the song title (if needed) and the following
> text below.
great! i was going to ask if anyone could translate those...also, if you
get around to it, i'd love to know what ol' passionate jorge is cooing
about in his rap...
truly a wonderful album. trade yer tipsy, sukia, and crippled dick/hot wax
records in for this immediately!
sc
onnow: senor coconut!
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 10:48:40 -0800
From: Sean Cooper <scooper@best.com>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) Tetsu Inoue recommendations
> After listening to a couple of AH/Tetsu team-ups (HAT and Datacide-
> Flowerhead) I've decided to invest in some other Tetsu material. Any
> recommendations on the collabo or solo tip?
tetsu is, in my opinion, one of the most amazing ambient composers of our
time. but be forewarned that his solo and collaborative material with other
artists (pete namlook, bill laswell, massimo vivanco, etc.) is quite a bit
different than his work with uwe. the closest of the datacide stuff to his
solo work is probably the beatless tracks on the fax releases and the less
psychedelic aspects of _flowerhead_; tetsu's solo stuff sounds quite a bit
more "serious" than his work with uwe. i recommend just about everything
tetsu's done in the past three years (although _time2_, _cymatic scan_, and
_shades of orion 3_ are probably my least favorite). the best place to
start is probably his recent instinct lp, _world receiver_. _2350 broadway
3_ on fax is also brilliant, and should still be available. copies of
_organic cloud_ and _slow and low_ (both fax) also resurfaced through a
domestic distributor recently and if you come across them you should
definitely snap them up...
sc
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 10:57:18 -0800
From: Sean Cooper <scooper@best.com>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Re: Song info on RI compilations #1 and #2 -
puzzling questions
> The big horns on it kind of remind me of the STEROID MAXIMUS (aka Jim
> Thirlwell/Raymond Watts + others) albums at some points. I mean, as soon
> as the first song starts, I know it's going to be a powerhouse (pun
> intended). I just wish that the `latin jungle' in "El coco Baile"
> would've kept on throughout though... it just kind of peters off. This
> album is definitely the first of its kind.
actually, i don't like that first track at all...too scattered...i skip it
every time. to me the essence of latin jazz is its unique rhythms and i
think _coconut_ smokes heaviest when uwe preserves midtempo latin claves
like the samba and rhumba while bridging them with other rhythmic dance
forms like hip-hop and electro...the intro to "supertropical" is exactly
what i mean in this respect...full-on big band brass blurts connected up by
a stuttering, timestretched 808 cowbell. genius.
>> diarios clave - (clave also has the meaning KEY)
>> special guest chico rodriguez (calve left channel), mpc 3000 (clave
>> right channel) and mch (mono/japonese ticket scratching)
>
> There's that `MCH' again.
i'm convinced this is code for uwe's old-escuela electro proclivities...
sc
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 23:59:39 +0200
From: Nuno Proenca <nunotava@mail.telepac.pt>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Re: Song info on RI compilations #1 and #2 -
puzzling questions
At 08:50 06-06-1997 -0400, you wrote:
> The big horns on it kind of remind me of the STEROID MAXIMUS (aka Jim
> Thirlwell/Raymond Watts + others) albums at some points. I mean, as soon
> as the first song starts, I know it's going to be a powerhouse
I'll be damned ! I have that red sleeve Steroid Maximus record and I
thought it also ! Both albms have a strange familiarity, IMHO.
>> For you who do not understand Spanish I took the liberty of translating
>> the text in the cover. ie: the song title (if needed) and the following
>> text below.
>
> Thank you, Nuno. (:
I'll be happy to translate between any of these: Portuguese (native);
English, French, or Spanish; (they are 30Km away :-)
I can also try Italian or any other latin language.
PS: On the back cover of Senor coconut (below the song list); replace
"(etc)" with the correct names, locations, and so on.
"all compositions, arrangements, instruments and programming by senor
coconut except where otherwise indicated.
recorded on "mira musica" estudio uno/(etc) 1997.
except (etc), (etc), and (etc), recorded in the famous "sel...(etc)".
art direction by Lisa Carbon.
design by hugo...(etc) and ..(etc)
photo ...(etc)
makeup by ...(etc)
Hey nigga (or nigger) !
> on: "Datacide 2" by DATACIDE
How is it (compare with ondas please). My record shop didn't have it.
thanks !
onnow: wipeout 2097- "The Soundtrack"
#1. :-) #2. :~) #3. [:-)] #4. >:->
SWM-"Mission: To reconstruct the sonic landscape
in order to preserve imagination.
We are sound. We are never what you think we are.
We ask you to join the ancient dance.
We love you and want you to join the sound with us."
Nuno
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 19:35:13 -0500 (CDT)
From: phlux@ix.netcom.com
To: scooper@best.com, mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Re: Song info on RI compilations #1 and #2 -
puzzling questions
On 06/06/97 10:57:18 you wrote:
> diarios clave - (clave also has the meaning KEY)
> special guest chico rodriguez (calve left channel), mpc 3000 (clave
> right channel) and mch (mono/japonese ticket scratching)
Well I know that one of the people he is crediting is a drum machine.
The MPC 3000 is a sampling drum machine put out by AKAI.
ROB
**********LOGIQ'S NEW CD****************
BIG ON MARS
11 Tracks of Electronic Bliss
http://www.sinless.com/logiq
****************************************
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 97 8:30:42 BST
From: Warren Nicholls <warrenn@redac.co.uk>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) Yay.
> Now, can someone direct me to a copy of the "Repetitive Digital
> Noise" disc by _i_ por favor? This one's proving just as hard to locate.
> :(
Hi,
I have this and would consider trading it, especially for one of the latest
RI releases, either Lisa Carbon : tri de janerio (?) or Senor Coconut (I'm
having trouble getting these over in the UK). So if you want to trade over
the pond then let me know.
Warren
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Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 01:49:51 -0500 (CDT)
From: Wallace Winfrey <wally@nicar.org>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) Tetsu Inoue recommendations
On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, GD wrote:
> After listening to a couple of AH/Tetsu team-ups (HAT and Datacide-
> Flowerhead) I've decided to invest in some other Tetsu material. Any
> recommendations on the collabo or solo tip?
Let me throw in my vote for Ambiant Otaku, a recording of immense spiritual
power, as well as Tetsu's collaboration with Jonah Sharp, Electroharmonix.
A friend of mine who does the ambient/idm show at our local college radio
station calls his show 'Morphing Cloud' (the first track) if that says
anything....
Good luck finding them though, They're both on FAX and both out of print
AND highly sought after (he said with the sneer of an uppity trainspotter
;)
another huge tetsu fan,
wally
--
wally@nicar.org
"Is it not written in your law, 'I said, You are gods'?"
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 21:37:10 -0500
From: rezoober <HOKUSAI@worldnet.att.net>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Earcloud
has anyone gotten Victor Sol's Earcloud cd on Hypnotism with the totally
awesome overworking of VSVN #1? I've been ranting over this cd for about
a year and wondering if anyone has bothered picking it up ....
later da booza
np: moon lay hidden beneath a cloud - smell of blood but victory
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 21:51:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: rezoober <HOKUSAI@worldnet.att.net>
Cc: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Re: Earcloud
On Sat, 7 Jun 1997, Todd asked:
> has anyone gotten Victor Sol's Earcloud cd on Hypnotism with the totally
> awesome overworking of VSVN #1? I've been ranting over this cd for about
> a year and wondering if anyone has bothered picking it up ....
...yeah, I did get one myself and thought it was great (thanks for the
lead Todd). A lotlot better than "Paranoid" (although these are the only
two up-beat Sol releases I've heard besides the AH team-ups on RI and FAX).
I just wanted to point out though that "Chlorophile Fumes" is not a solo
album, but rather a collaboration between Victor Sol and Alex Martin.
The first track, "Balance", just kills me. Now, how are this song and
its doppleganger on VSVN related I wonder? Who made who first?
ecnalab.
.`--).
o o ._)
christopher miller ==;'
evil@digital.net =='
'
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 22:28:08 -0500
From: rezoober <HOKUSAI@worldnet.att.net>
To: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
Subject: SOL: awesome mexican beer or Spanish electronic master?
I dunno, I believe paranoid is da bomb! Guess it helped that I was methed
up when i heard it..totally skizzo shit!!
Anyone had the pleasure of XJACKS esp the track "solid pressure". This
track inspires me to make a short fim about being chased by an unseen
intruder. Kinda like the whole Evil Dead pursuit sequences but more
desperate. rezoober
NP: Metallica - master of puppets NEVER! forget your roots "elektra"
Next up: Gentle people - soundtracks for the living "Rephlex"
(Richard James did one hell of a remix for these guys)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 1997 04:43:00 +0200 (MET DST)
From: ITHz <harryw@sn.no>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Re: Earcloud
> A lotlot better than "Paranoid" (although these are the only two up-beat
> Sol releases I've heard besides the AH team-ups on RI and FAX).
so...r u saying "paranoid"is mediocre?
It is one of the few RI cd's I don't have....
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 22:51:57 -0500
From: rezoober <HOKUSAI@worldnet.att.net>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Re: Earcloud
As Wesley Willis would say...Paranoid Rocks tha nation... esp if yer into
speedy chemicals. Not to indorse..that would not be P.C but ..........
Da Booza
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 21:59:02 -0500 (CDT)
From: phlux@ix.netcom.com
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Paranoid and Shellglove
On 06/08/97 04:43:00 you wrote:
> so...r u saying "paranoid"is mediocre?It is one of the few RI cd's I
> don't have....
Paranoid is kinda cool but it really stretches out alot longer than it
needs too. It would make one really kickin 10 minute track but it starts to
get a bit stale at an hour.
Also what are the impressions out there of shellglove ? I ordered this one
last week.
ROB
**********LOGIQ'S NEW CD****************
BIG ON MARS
11 Tracks of Electronic Bliss
http://www.sinless.com/logiq
****************************************
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 23:16:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: ITHz <harryw@sn.no>
Cc: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Re: Earcloud
On Sun, 8 Jun 1997, Harry asked:
> so...r u saying "paranoid" is mediocre?
Nothing special... it seemed lacking. Just two long and boring trance
tracks. Not even good trance. Unoriginal annoying flange-ing throughout.
In fact, towards the end of the cd it sounds like Sol's turned the knobs so
many different ways so many times that he's running out of new ideas.
The first track started too abruptly and didn't really even go
anywhere after that. The second one is more of the same, with barely any
variation from the first really. Basically I could pick any random point
on the cd and it would not be all too different from any other.
This album is not even that long actually - the entire disc is only
slightly over 54 minutes (the only RI album I've felt ripped-off by). If
nothing else, maybe this disc would've been salvageable if it were filled
up more - some extra tracks even.
I was expecting better. "Paranoid" is a release that should never
have been pressed... or at least worked on a little bit more.
dionarap.
.`--).
o o ._)
christopher miller ==;'
evil@digital.net =='
'
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 1997 09:02:07 -0500 (CDT)
From: phlux@ix.netcom.com
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Superficial Depth for Trade
I've got a copy of Atom Heart's Superficial Depth "Digital Superimposing"
that I'd be willing to trade for other Atom Heart stuff.
E-mail me if interested
ROB
**********LOGIQ'S NEW CD****************
BIG ON MARS
11 Tracks of Electronic Bliss
http://www.sinless.com/logiq
****************************************
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 1997 16:11:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: ATOM HEART/LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS LIST <mother@nicar.org>
Subject: (mother) lead - Lisa Carbon, Atom Heart, Swamp Terrorists
Cough.
Just browsing through EAR/Rational's reduced sale-list, and I noticed
these three AH-related items were still available:
> Atom Heart - Flextone 2x12" $14
> Lisa Carbon & Friends - Stereo Cocktail $15
> Swamp Terrorists - Get O. EP (2-CD/import) $13
The LISA CARBON disc is the one on POD (same tracks as on the US
version, called "Experimental Post Techno Swing"), and the SWAMP TERRORISTS
double-cd contains the two LB-remixes we were talking about here last week.
Anyway, this is their address if anyone's interested:
EAR/Rational Music <ear@xmission.com>
rae.
.`--).
o o ._)
christopher miller ==;'
evil@digital.net =='
'
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 1997 16:14:53 -0500 (CDT)
From: Deckard <njurcin@orion.it.luc.edu>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) Re: Earcloud
> The first track, "Balance", just kills me. Now, how are this song
> and its doppleganger on VSVN related I wonder? Who made who first?
i think it's the last track Hokusai Dive that you're referring
to, not the first one... Hokusai is a popular Japanese artist.
> ...yeah, I did get one myself and thought it was great (thanks for
> the lead Todd). A lotlot better than "Paranoid" (although these are the
> only two up-beat Sol releases I've heard besides the AH team-ups on RI
> and FAX).
Paranoid is a wierd one ain't it? Can't figure it out, with all
that 23-ness and strange "Polaroid"-esque packaging...
no@h
. . . . . . ...
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 1997 16:02:26 -0700 (MST)
From: Eric Frans <franse@engr.arizona.edu>
To: Atom Heart <mother@nicar.org>
Subject: Re: (mother) Tetsu Inoue recommendations
On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, GD wrote:
} After listening to a couple of AH/Tetsu team-ups (HAT and Datacide-
} Flowerhead) I've decided to invest in some other Tetsu material. Any
} recommendations on the collabo or solo tip?
I'd definitely recommend LAT's (HAT's brother -- actually it's Laswell,
Atom Heart, and Tetsu) "Second Nature". The CD is available on Sub Meta,
which is another of Laswell's labels. It's one of the few ambient discs I
still listen to regularly. It is mostly ambient, but these incredible
intricate beats sneak up on you throughout the album that round things out
nicely. I love listening to this disc after a hard day and just
relaxing...
| E r i c | [mail] franse@engr.arizona.edu |
| F r a n s | [web] http://engr.arizona.edu/~franse |
"Make the events occur that you want to occur" - The Black Dog
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 1997 20:47:33 -0500
From: Mark Coleman <mcoleman@wsnet.com>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Second Nature, Oscillations remixes and Atlanta RI
sources
> I'd definitely recommend LAT's (HAT's brother -- actually it's Laswell,
> Atom Heart, and Tetsu) "Second Nature". The CD is available on Sub Meta,
> which is another of Laswell's labels. It's one of the few ambient discs
> I still listen to regularly. It is mostly ambient, but these incredible
> intricate beats sneak up on you throughout the album that round things
> out nicely. I love listening to this disc after a hard day and just
> relaxing...
This was one of my first AH releases (I had Lass. Bend. though) and I got
it primarily because I am a big fan of Laswell. I liked it but it didn't
appear in my CD player often. 1 Tetsu and 9 AH later I really like this
album all the more. A listen last week had me really deep listening and
enjoying it immensely. The 'Synthetic Forest' is a great 30 minute big
brother to MOPA's 'Synthetic Coutryside' with the Laswell dub bass drifting
in and out. Takes me places!! Not for the beginner AH or TI fan (I see it
on lots of trade and for sale lists and even used in a couple of stores)
but worth the listen.
On the subject of Mr Laswell, has anyone heard Mr Schmidt's remixes of
'Oscillations' Laswell's d +b record? Any release date foreseen?
Thirdly (and hopefully Mr Miller can help out): A friend of mine is goign
to Atlanta in a couple of days to do some music shopping and wants to pick
up Sr. Coconut and Trio de Janero. Where is the best place to look in
Atlanta? I have never seen much Atom Heart in 5 points, but I did find
Post Techno Swing fro $7 used.
Mark
"But when Zarathustra was alone he spoke this to his heart: "Could it be
possible? This old saint in the forest has not yet heard anything of this,
that GOD IS DEAD!!" -- "Thus Spoke Zarathustra," Frederich Nietzsche
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 1997 22:22:28 -0500
From: rezoober <HOKUSAI@worldnet.att.net>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Re: Atlanta :RI so
Mark Coleman wrote:
> A friend of mine is goign to Atlanta in a couple of days to do some music
> shopping and wants to pick up Sr. Coconut and Trio de Janero. Where is
> the best place to look in Atlanta? I have never seen much Atom Heart in
> 5 points, but I did find
Atlanta is not the place to find AH. The place is mailorder. Atlanta is
great fer KrautRock,DroneRock, and indie but as fer Electronica...for-get
it! I've never even seen a fax cd in Atlanta.
Da Booza (livin 100 mi. from Atl)
NP:Alec Empire - Low On Ice
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 09:28:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: "Jason J. Tar" <tarjason@pilot.msu.edu>
Cc: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Re: also...
On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, Jason J. Tar wrote:
> Anyone have a track listing for Lassigue Bendthaus "overload" 12" or
> Flextone 2x12"?
Yeah chimpy, here you go:
OVERFLOW : LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS (1995)
1 OVERFLOW 6.28
2 OVERFLOW (sift mix) 8.14
3 OVERFLOW (extended) 12.47
GER (TEST 12" KK 132 (out of print) & 12" KK 132) Kk
FLEXTONE : FLEXTONE (1994)
-DISC 1-
1 ALASKA 5.54
2 FLEXTONE B 8.02
3 AFTERWARDS, I FELT BETTER 7.21
4 RATHER ABSTRACT 10.12
5 SOUND 6.13
6 INSTANT REPLAY 4.38
-DISC 2-
1 FLEXTONE A 7.49
2 LIFESIZE 6.54
3 FLEXTONE C 5.41
4 FRINGE 8.05
GER (TEST 2xLP. RI 023V (out of print) & 2xLP. RI 023V (deleted))
RATHER INTERESTING/DEL HAZE ENTERTAINMENT
One interesting note about the FLEXTONE white-label you have, Jason...
Apparently there are only about 23-25 copies of this particular [test]
pressing. The regular issuance is limited to 500.
lebal.
.`--).
o o ._)
christopher miller ==;'
evil@digital.net =='
'
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 09:45:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jason J Tar <tarjason@pilot.msu.edu>
To: mother@nicar.org
Cc: tarjason@pilot.msu.edu
Subject: (mother) Re: also...
> One interesting note about the FLEXTONE white-label you have,
> Jason... Apparently there are only about 23-25 copies of this particular
> [test] pressing. The regular issuance is limited to 500.
Hmm...Guess that makes me tres hip! ;)
Was this thing ever pressed on plastic? (CD) You know that be my format
of choice. (Vinyl be a pain in the arse.)
Too many 23's associated with this release for my taste though. That whole
mysticism thing makes me cringe.
Piece, Jason.
(whose just hanging out waiting for Senor Coconut to arrive in the mail and
preparing for English class. Also d/ling Carmageddon [get bonus points
for running over pedestrians...fun?]) --
Yours Truly,
Jason J. Tar
peace, hugs and unity
Vampire Rodents (+Ether Bunny and Dilate) page at:
pilot.msu.edu/user/tarjason/VRodents.htm
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 10:21:05 -0500 (CDT)
From: Deckard <njurcin@orion.it.luc.edu>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Victor Sol
since everyone's been mentioning Victor and Paranoid lately, i
thought i'd drop a word in favor of his "Solphax" release. It's
got a variety of sounds on it, and some are hard-hittin' and
downright wonderful. okay that's all... :)
no@h
. . . . . . ...
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 13:29:33 -0800
From: charles uzzell-edwards <faxlabel@sirius.com>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) The R.I invasion of Atlanta begins
> Atlanta is not the place to find AH. The place is mailorder. Atlanta is
> great fer KrautRock,DroneRock, and indie but as fer Electronica...for-get
> it! I've never even seen a fax cd in Atlanta.
please somebody tell me the name of any reasonably hip store in Atlanta,
and I'll send them lists of Atom Heart cds that are available and make them
take uwe into their hearts...
respects c . u . e .
f a x l a b e l u . s . a .
8 7 e t h e l a v e n u e # 2 ,
m i l l v a l l e y .
c a l i f o r n i a 9 4 9 4 1 .
4 1 5 3 8 3 7 9 9 0
real audio sound bites and more... http://www.sirius.com/~faxlabel/
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 22:15:34 -0400
From: inflitrate the mind on a lower level <jna@retina.net>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) The R.I invasion of Atlanta begins
You know, atlanta isn't really that bad. Go to Wax 'n Facts and talk to a
girl there named Victoria. She rocks and probably has heard of all the Atom
Heart and Tetsou Indoe releases you can think of.
-john
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 22:53:56 -0500
From: GD <g-d@worldnet.att.net>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Shellglove
Well, Modern Music finally got in a number of copies of Shellglove, and let
me tell you, this is one of the most engaging AH releases I've heard of
recent. Compositionally/structurally speaking the disc might be similar to
most of the Rather Interesting output, but the timbral spectrum on this
release seems broader than other recent efforts (Latin influences on Senor
Coconut excluded). I almost want to say that this is an A/H release made
with someone else's equipment. Which is fine with me cos it sounds great!
GD
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 01:11:54 -0500
From: rezoober <HOKUSAI@worldnet.att.net>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) Shellglove
How many people on this list are awaiting a copy of Shellglove from P.J
(including myself) .Forgive the lame request i'm drunk and keep seeing post
pertaining to waiting for this disk..
rezoobaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 09:53:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: Deckard <njurcin@orion.it.luc.edu>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) Shellglove
> How many people on this list are awaiting a copy of Shellglove from P.J
> (including myself) .Forgive the lame request i'm drunk and keep seeing
> post pertaining to waiting for this disk..
eye 2 m waitin' meeeestah man....
no@h
. . . . . . ...
onnow: terre's tranquilizer
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 15:54:26 -0500 (CDT)
From: phlux@ix.netcom.com
To: njurcin@orion.it.luc.edu, mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) Shellglove
On 06/10/97 09:53:11 you wrote:
> How many people on this list are awaiting a copy of Shellglove from P.J
> (including myself) .Forgive the lame request i'm drunk and keep seeing
> post pertaining to waiting for this disk..
I got mine yesterday. Really amazing stuff. Definately one of my fav Atom
Heart's
ROB
**********LOGIQ'S NEW CD****************
BIG ON MARS
11 Tracks of Electronic Bliss
http://www.sinless.com/logiq
****************************************
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 23:44:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jason J Tar <tarjason@pilot.msu.edu>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Shellgove
So is Shellglove as hip as you all say, or are you just trying to justify
the spending of $25? I've considered ordering it, but having trouble
making the plunge, specially when I consider that I can get another
unhadbyme AHeart release for only $13.50 So... Is it really that hip?
(still waiting on SC, tomorrow perhaps?)
--
Yours Truly,
Jason J. Tar
peace, hugs and unity
Vampire Rodents (+Ether Bunny and Dilate) page at:
pilot.msu.edu/user/tarjason/VRodents.htm
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 23:49:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: ATOM HEART/LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS LIST <mother@nicar.org>
Subject: (mother) Proofread Lisa Please?
Ahem.
Ok, please don't roll your eyes but this is sort of a `Who is Lisa
Carbon' post (sorry Todd). Anyway, rather than posing that tired old
question again, this has more to do with an answer... sorta.
Gonzi Merchan (the guy on IDM who does the Squarepusher, Aphex Twin,
and RePhLeX pages) has asked me to write a short little thingy on LISA
CARBON for his RePhLeX page. Here's what I've come up with:
LISA CARBON
-----------
Lisa Carbon might or might not be a real person. If she is, then she lives
in Colombia and is a frequent collaborator with Uwe Schmidt (aka Atom
Heart). To date, Lisa has one album apiece on Rather Interesting, Pod, and
RePhLeX, and supposedly has material out (or to be released?) on the Cheap
label as well. Her style of music is her very own, but borrows heavily
from the vast buffet of traditional Latin styles. Either that, or she
plays like she works in the organ store in the mall. More recent outings
and guest-appearances on various RI releases have her playing Moog. Now if
she isn't a real person, then you can just add `her' name to that of the
manymanymany aliases of none other than Uwe Schmidt. Although, he'd like
you to believe otherwise (to the Atom Heart list in 1996):
"There was a longer discussion about lisa carbon going on trying
to figure out who and even _if_ she is. Somebody concluded that
she is just another alias of my person which i have to deny.
Due to the fact that lisa is not living in europe (right now she
stays in columbia for a couple of months) she is not available
here to prove the opposite. Anyway, she is real." - Uwe Schmidt
So... is this ok? I'm no Sean Cooper when it comes to writing, but I
think it's alright. Should I add anything? Take something out? Change a
word? Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated. (:
nobrac.
.`--).
o o ._)
christopher miller ==;'
evil@digital.net =='
'
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 00:16:57 -0500
From: rezoober <HOKUSAI@worldnet.att.net>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) Proofread Lisa Please?
Christopher Miller wrote:
> Should I add anything? Take something out? Change a word? Any thoughts
> or comments would be appreciated. (:
List her discog including Comps,rmxs etc.
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 00:22:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: ATOM HEART/LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS LIST <mother@nicar.org>
Subject: (mother) Re: Trio De Janeiro vs. SeÒor Coconut
On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, Mark Conklin asked:
> How Does SeÒor Coconut compare with Trio De Janeiro? I bought Trio De
> Janeiro and was somewhat disappointed. I really like a few of the cuts,
> but I think I was hoping for something a bit more loungey, with more
> bossa, more structure, and more melody.
I think you'd really dig the SENOR COCONUT disc then.
I agree with you about "Trio..." in that it seems lacking. The
impression I got from this album is that *if* there is indeed a real Lisa
Carbon, then this is her first album without the heavyheavy hand of Uwe
helping her out with the programming and engineering - kind of the way the
second DANDY JACK album compared to the first. I was expecting a topper to
"Polyester"...
...although the song, "Lindo Signatura", is a nice slice of heaven in
itself. ;}
arutangis.
.`--).
o o ._)
christopher miller ==;'
evil@digital.net =='
'
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 00:30:14 -0800
From: charles uzzell-edwards <faxlabel@sirius.com>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Agatha Crisie presents : The Atom Heart Bootleg
mystery...
Heres a mystery you can really get your teeth into : Is has been brought to
my attention that bootlegs of atom heart cds have been circulating,and they
are rumoured to be produced on the East Coast NY area : before everyone
rushes out to try and get that cool semi acoustic nature bootleg consider
this : atom hearts music gets bootlegged, and none of the money from the
sales of it go to him . He has just made a big move to Chile,and i am sure
that he could probably use money made from sales of legitimate copies of
his music so he can go on making top tunes like senor coconut out there on
the Latinamerican frontlines of ambient...
ooh it makes me mad : somebody find out who the stinkers are and we can
have a nice mother list outing to the bootleggers warehouse for a cd
burning they wont forget...
respects c . u . e .
f a x l a b e l u . s . a .
8 7 e t h e l a v e n u e # 2 ,
m i l l v a l l e y .
c a l i f o r n i a 9 4 9 4 1 .
4 1 5 3 8 3 7 9 9 0
real audio sound bites and more... http://www.sirius.com/~faxlabel/
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 10:11:16 -0600
From: Mark Conklin <kidgrady@ix.netcom.com>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Re: Trio De Janeiro vs. SeÒor Coconut
> I think you'd really dig the SENOR COCONUT disc then.
Thanks for the info. I'll order it. I just got Datacide's "Ondas"
yesterday. I like it, but it's not as good as "Flowerhead" imo.
> I agree with you about "Trio..." in that it seems lacking. The
> impression I got from this album is that *if* there is indeed a real Lisa
> Carbon, then this is her first album without the heavyheavy hand of Uwe
> helping her out with the programming and engineering - kind of the way
> the second DANDY JACK album compared to the first. I was expecting a
> topper to Polyester"...
>
> ...although the song, "Lindo Signatura", is a nice slice of heaven
> in itself. ;}
Yeah, it really is. In fact, there are a couple tunes I really like on it.
Thanks again,
MC
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 21:08:51 +0200
From: Tom Tonger <tom.tonger@uni-koeln.de>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) Shellgove
At 11:44 PM 6/10/97 -0400, you wrote:
> So is Shellglove as hip as you all say, or are you just trying to justify
> the spending of $25? I've considered ordering it, but having trouble
> making the plunge, specially when I consider that I can get another
> unhadbyme AHeart release for only $13.50 So... Is it really that hip?
I'd say I could get shellglove for you guys for a lot less than $25, but
the horrendous postage rates for airmail in germany would eat up mist of
the savings, unfortunately. yeah, shellglove is very cool, you won't be
disappointed.
one question though: mine doesn't have a back liner, just a red recent
programmings sticker on the back. is this right?
cheers,
--tom
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 21:42:11 +0200 (CES)
From: ujf0@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) Shellgove
According to Tom Tonger:
> mine doesn't have a back liner, just a red recent programmings sticker on
> the back. is this right?
Yes it is ..i bought it about 4-5 months ago ( heheheh ) ..actually i
bought it because of its nice design and i m happy with the music too .
Only thing that disturbs me is that all the audio on it somehow high-pass
filtered, or higher frequences are slightly eliminated or something so
that they dont sound clear and fresh instead of it too many basses .
MAy be You will figure out what i m trying to mean when u listen to it .
Metin
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 15:35:54 -0500 (CDT)
From: Deckard <njurcin@orion.it.luc.edu>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Glove-passin'
> Only thing that disturbs me is that all the audio on it somehow high-pass
> filtered,
you meant low-pass, i gather, as in "passin'-the-lows-through-to-ya"?
> or higher frequences are slightly eliminated or something so that they
> dont sound clear and fresh instead of it too many basses .
You know i had a similar opinion of the RI HAT release. I thought that a
lot of the BASSier frequencies were lost and should have had more thump...
(making th' album have a "high-passed" sound)
But then again, maybe that was the intended effect.
But it might also have been a result of the method of collaboration for
HAT which, i assume, involved sending tapes to and from different studios,
and not dragging each others equipment from New York to Germany to
Japan...or wherever.
> MAy be You will figure out what i m trying to mean when u listen to it .
If only my Shellglove would be in my mailbox when i get home!!!
:\
no@h
. . . . . . ...
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 22:48:30 +0200 (CES)
From: ujf0@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) Shellgove
> Only thing that disturbs me is that all the audio on it somehow high-pass
> filtered
Ups !!! sorry here it had to be "lowpass-filter" :) Whatever, listen
it urself and enjoy, but i dont know what Uwe did with the material here,
probably some post editing or something but its not a usual Uwe sound (
not the style, just the freqeuency spectrum )
Metin
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 97 10:17:11 BST
From: Warren Nicholls <warrenn@redac.co.uk>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) WANTED : LISA CARBON!
Hi,
Can anyone supply me the latest lisa carbon CD on RI (trio de....)?
No one's got any in the UK!!!!!!!
A trade would be good, I have Repetitive digital noise for trade for
example.
Anyone?
Warren
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Warren Nicholls
Redac Systems Limited, Tel: 01684 294161 (Ext 421)
Green Lane, Fax: 01684 299754
Tewkesbury, E-mail: warrenn@redac.co.uk
Gloucestershire, GL20 8HE, UK. WWW: http://www.redac.co.uk
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 01:05:40 +1000
From: Chris Tourgelis <ctourgel@mail.usyd.edu.au>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) lead - POD stuff by mail-order
Hi all,
Just thought I'd mention that the new TEQ Mail Order catalogue, which I
received in the mail yesterday, says that they have most of the Atom Heart
(related) CDs on POD. That is: both i CDs, Atomu Shinzu, the AH POD
compilation, and they have all three Lisa Carbon CDs. They also seem to
have various RI stuff at various prices.
Contact them - pindrop@enterprise.net (state TEQ Mail Order in header)
or tel/fax +44 (0) 181 518 3092
They're pretty good. My friends and I do orders with them every so often.
They don't charge postage on CD orders worth over 40 UK pounds, which is
pretty cool when you live in Australia.
--
Chris Tourgelis
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 11:10:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jason J Tar <tarjason@pilot.msu.edu>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Senor Coconut
It's been said here enough that I probably need not type this message, and
furthermore with this being the Atom Heart mailing list I'm probably just
preaching to the converted, but it must be done...
Buy Senor Coconut. Just got mine yesterday, and Wow! Where I kinda like
Atom Heart, I'll admit he's good and what not, a lot of his work comes
across as generic "heard one, heard 'em all" much of the time. There are
exceptions of course, but even on many of the "themed" albums, the mark is
missed or hit only on a few tracks. Well, Senor got Flavor! And not just
one track. That stuff is pouring out of every pore on the whole damn disc.
Wow. Fun, interesting and exciting.
Now if only every AHeart disc was as distinguishable from the masses as
this one is...
Now on a completely different note (and not really even remotely related,
but) Anyone out there have Fila Brazilla "Luck be a Weirdo Tonight"? What
is it like? (i've never heard any of their work). Got an ad for it in the
SC mailing (thus relevancy here, though stretched) and it looks so CUTE
with the bunnies and the name. Any reccomendations? (never heard any of
FBs work, so...)
thanks.
--
Yours Truly,
Jason J. Tar
peace, hugs and unity
Vampire Rodents (+Ether Bunny and Dilate) page at:
pilot.msu.edu/user/tarjason/VRodents.htm
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 19:22:13 -0800
From: charles uzzell-edwards <faxlabel@sirius.com>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Agathe Crustie presents : the Bootleggers part 2
I found out that there is a shady old record label in NY who has been
bootlegging Atom Heart, I sent them some e-mail and asked them what was up
with what they were doing. How lame! It is a pretty good idea though if
you think about it ... if you have a label and the music is not selling so
well, why not bootleg a different labels stuff and sell sell sell!
ooh it makes me mad...
respects c . u . e .
f a x l a b e l u . s . a .
8 7 e t h e l a v e n u e # 2 ,
m i l l v a l l e y .
c a l i f o r n i a 9 4 9 4 1 .
4 1 5 3 8 3 7 9 9 0
real audio sound bites and more... http://www.sirius.com/~faxlabel/
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 18:46:29 +0200
From: Tom Tonger <tom.tonger@uni-koeln.de>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) Senor Coconut
At 11:10 AM 6/12/97 -0400, Jason J Tar wrote:
> Buy Senor Coconut.
agree completely. but the reason I was posting is this: el senor on the
cover is Uwe himself, right? pretty badly done false moustache, though...
;)
cheers,
--tom
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 18:38:54 -0400
From: William Perez <will@panix.com>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) el senor coco
Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net> wrote:
> Oh, and isn't that `Senor Uwe' on the front? Dye job?
no that's definitely Dandy Jack. Check out the picture on the inside of
the CD sleeve and compare it with the pictures in the "cosmic trousers" or
"plastic woman" CDs. Uwe looks nothing like Dandy and oddly enough, the
few pictures I've seen of Uwe still don't compare to the real person.
"Jason J Tar" <tarjason@pilot.msu.edu> wrote:
> Buy Senor Coconut. Just got mine yesterday, and Wow! Where I kinda like
> Atom Heart, I'll admit he's good and what not, a lot of his work comes
> across as generic "heard one, heard 'em all" much of the time. There are
> exceptions of course, but even on many of the "themed" albums, the mark
> is missed or hit only on a few tracks. Well, Senor got Flavor! And not
> just one track. That stuff is pouring out of every pore on the whole
> damn disc. Wow. Fun, interesting and exciting.
I agree this is an awesome album but you folks are not giving Dandy Jack
enough credit! He is not Atom Heart aka Uwe Schmidt. In fact, although it
is Atom Heart's label, he is credited for additional programming only on
one track: Supertropical. On the back it says in spanish that all
compositions, instruments, programming, etc. are by Senor Coconut (aka
Dandy Jack) except where noted.
/ / / / / / mailto:will@panix.com
(_/__/ / (__ (__ http://www.panix.com/~will/
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 16:44:54 -0800
From: Sean Cooper <scooper@best.com>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) http://www.geocities.com/Nashville/3313/azonico.html
can anybody tell me what this website is all about? there's a reference to
atom heart and dandy jack's "cabeza parlante" (as well as kreator, marilyn
manson, barry white, and cypress hill...) but i can't tell what it's in
connection with (note: it appears to be in spanish...).
thank,
sc
onnow: moufang et al : conjoint (km20)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 01:35:56 +0200
From: Nuno Proenca <nunotava@mail.telepac.pt>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) http://www.geocities.com/Nashville/3313/azonico.html
At 16:44 13-06-1997 -0800, you wrote:
> can anybody tell me what this website is all about? there's a reference
> to atom heart and dandy jack's "cabeza parlante" (as well as kreator,
> marilyn manson, barry white, and cypress hill...) but i can't tell what
> it's in connection with (note: it appears to be in spanish...).
It is the online reference guide to a spanish fanzine. (called Zonic
Archive) (Zonic being Zone+Sonic)
In general dedicated do all kinds of non mass cultural events (the
references and interviews to the bands, and so on).
They have an interview with AHeart.
That's about it.
PS: Though I speak Spanish my motherlanguage is the melifluous Portuguese
:-)
#1. :-) #2. :~) #3. [:-)] #4. >:->
SWM-"Mission: To reconstruct the sonic landscape
in order to preserve imagination.
We are sound. We are never what you think we are.
We ask you to join the ancient dance.
We love you and want you to join the sound with us."
Nuno
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 18:38:04 -0800
From: Sean Cooper <scooper@best.com>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) http://www.geocities.com/Nashville/3313/azonico.html
> It is the online reference guide to a spanish fanzine. (called Zonic
> Archive) (Zonic being Zone+Sonic)
> In general dedicated do all kinds of non mass cultural events (the
> references and interviews to the bands, and so on).
>
> They have an interview with AHeart.
> That's about it.
thanks!...hmm, i wonder how current that interview is and whether or not it
talks about his nutty latin jazz stuff...
sc
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 12:44:31 +0200
From: Tom Tonger <tom.tonger@uni-koeln.de>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) el senor coco
At 06:38 PM 6/13/97 -0400, William Perez wrote:
> no that's definitely Dandy Jack. Check out the picture on the inside of
> the CD sleeve and compare it with the pictures in the "cosmic trousers"
> or "plastic woman" CDs. Uwe looks nothing like Dandy and oddly enough,
> the few pictures I've seen of Uwe still don't compare to the real person.
>
> I agree this is an awesome album but you folks are not giving Dandy Jack
> enough credit! He is not Atom Heart aka Uwe Schmidt. In fact, although
> it is Atom Heart's label, he is credited for additional programming only
> on one track: Supertropical. On the back it says in spanish that all
> compositions, instruments, programming, etc. are by Senor Coconut (aka
> Dandy Jack) except where noted.
On my album it does not say "aka Dandy Jack". Do you know this for a fact?
I've seen Uwe live, too, and I could swear it's him on the cover (minus the
retouching, of course :). While I'm neither an AH nor a Dandy Jack expert,
I don't think at all this sounds like Dandy Jack. I don't think you'd even
have to retouch Dandy Jack's pic if it *was* him, either, would you?
cheers,
--tom
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 02:27:28 +0200 (MET DST)
From: ITHz <harryw@sn.no>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) Trio De Janeiro vs. Senor Coconut
> I agree with you about "Trio..." in that it seems lacking. The
> impression I got from this album is that *if* there is indeed a real Lisa
> Carbon, then this is her first album without the heavyheavy hand of Uwe
> helping her out with the programming and engineering - kind of the way
> the second DANDY JACK album compared to the first.
so...the first dandy Jack on RI is better than the plastic woman one?
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 20:51:43 -0500
From: rezoober <HOKUSAI@worldnet.att.net>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) Trio De Janeiro vs. Senor Coconut
> so...the first dandy Jack on RI is better than the plastic woman one?
NOT A CHANCE..the first Dandy Jack is quite an odd one. Kinda reminds me
of being in Kmart on Acid. The muzak in the women's dept.
The Plastic Woman release is par excellent. Esp track 3 Toobercool. This
release is far superior much more structured.Much more sublevels and lush
rhythms abound.
booza
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 21:28:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: ITHz <harryw@sn.no>
Cc: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Re: Trio De Janeiro vs. Senor Coconut
On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, Harry asked:
> so...the first dandy Jack on RI is better than the plastic woman one?
Not necessarily. I was just saying that there is a noticeable
difference in the two albums - stylistically. Even in the programming(?).
In "...Plastic Woman" it seems to be lacking... well, Uwe. And that
might in fact be a good thing for this album. Definitely for Martin, as it
ended up showcasing *his* talents rather than being another `produced by
Atom Heart' tag-along release.
I like the way he and Lisa Carbon (shut up non-believers) are finally
getting out on their own... nevermind that they're still on RI. ;}
citsalp.
.`--).
o o ._)
christopher miller ==;'
evil@digital.net =='
'
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 02:52:10 +0000
From: Mixmaster Morris <morris@space.demon.co.uk>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) Senor Coconut
> Anyone out there have Fila Brazilla "Luck be a Weirdo Tonight"? What is
> it like? (i've never heard any of their work). Got an ad for it in the
> SC mailing (thus relevancy here, though stretched) and it looks so CUTE
> with the bunnies and the name. Any reccomendations? (never heard any of
> FBs work, so...)
Fila Brazillia are most EXCELLENT and this album is as good as
ever
Totally category defying, not unlike Mr Schmidts fine output
this album contains even more 'rock' elements than before some
played and some sampled (theres a big chunk of can in one
track) but it's very easy to learn to love, and then you'll
need to get Black Market Gardening etc ....
incidentally i saw this in someones chart as Fuck me a weirdo
tonight ... that goes down as an alltime classic along with
Feed me round things ...
mixmaster morris
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http://www.southern.com/MMM/
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 20:35:21 +0200 (CES)
From: ujf0@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) Senor Coconut
According to Mixmaster Morris:
> Fila Brazillia are most EXCELLENT and this album is as good as
> ever
>
> Totally category defying, not unlike Mr Schmidts fine output
> this album contains even more 'rock' elements than before some
> played and some sampled (theres a big chunk of can in one
> track) but it's very easy to learn to love, and then you'll
> need to get Black Market Gardening etc ....
Yess.. i checked Fila Brazillia today, and this is the most beatiful and
weird record i've heard in this quarter of 1997. All mixed up genres, like
acid jazz, reggae heh ...many more ...wonderfully poured into great
compositions. Lovely Record! Who r these guys :)
may be this helps more : http://www.pork.co.uk/html/bground.html
cheers , Metin
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 23:14:22 -0400
From: "Jason J. Tar" <tarjason@pilot.msu.edu>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Confusion...
> Supertropical
> additional programming by Atom Heart
Ok, so who is 'senor coconut'?? I thought ya'll said it was Atom Heart,
but then this translation from Spanish above kinda implies it someone else,
no? I'm confused.
(Thanks for the FB recommendations, I'll have to order it next time I do
some mail order. Any Soma recommendations?)
NP--Urania "Aquarius"
BTW--still have the POD comp for sale if anyone wants it...
Peace Hugs and Unity,
Jason J. Tar
W. W. J. D. http://pilot.msu.edu/user/tarjason
(What Would Jason Do?)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 02:53:07 +0200 (MET DST)
From: ITHz <harryw@sn.no>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (mother) Re: Trio De Janeiro vs. Senor Coconut
> the first Dandy Jack is quite an odd one. Kinda reminds me of being in
> Kmart on Acid. The muzak in the women's dept.
K-markt on acid;-/well....that sounds very appealing to me
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 22:51:59 -0400
From: William Perez <will@panix.com>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) el senor coco
> On my album it does not say "aka Dandy Jack". Do you know this for a
> fact?
No. For some reason I thought it was a fact but I couldn't find any
evidence. I could have sworn Uwe told me this in a correspondence. Tetsu
doesn't have his copy yet but he thought it was supposed to be Uwe also so
I'm probably wrong.
> I've seen Uwe live, too, and I could swear it's him on the cover (minus
> the retouching, of course :). While I'm neither an AH nor a Dandy Jack
> expert, I don't think at all this sounds like Dandy Jack. I don't think
> you'd even have to retouch Dandy Jack's pic if it *was* him, either,
> would you?
on the back of the CD, the word "maquillaje" translates into makeup so
you're probably right. What's confusing is that Supertropical lists
additional programming by Atom Heart on the inside sleeve. Then again at
the bottom Dandy Jack is listed first for helping. All I know is Uwe has
simultaneously impressed me and successfully confused and/or tricked me
again.
/ / / / / / mailto:will@panix.com
(_/__/ / (__ (__ http://www.panix.com/~will/
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 14:40:18 +0200
From: Nuno Proenca <nunotava@mail.telepac.pt>
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) Confusion...
At 23:14 17-06-1997 -0400, you wrote:
These are just $0.2 I'm adding to the list, OK ? :-)
> Ok, so who is 'senor coconut'?? I thought ya'll said it was Atom Heart,
> but then this translation from Spanish above kinda implies it someone
> else, no? I'm confused.
I made the translation. Senor Coconut means "Sir (or Mister) Coconut".
Not senior coconut or anything like it. In English ot would be written:
"Mr. Coconut".
IMHO;
I have a few (hobby-like) video and audio projects. As they are very
purphose-oriented everytime I am invited for something I "make up" a new
name, related to what I'm supposed to do; or to what I intend to do. I
have this feeling that Uwe does exactly the same thing. He has moved to
latin america and is working over latin arrangements. So now he calls
himself Mister Coconut. It sounds very simple to me.
#1. :-) #2. :~) #3. [:-)] #4. >:->
SWM-"Mission: To reconstruct the sonic landscape
in order to preserve imagination.
We are sound. We are never what you think we are.
We ask you to join the ancient dance.
We love you and want you to join the sound with us."
Nuno
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 00:41:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: ATOM HEART/LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS LIST <mother@nicar.org>
Subject: (mother) Interview.
Hai!
I finally got a copy of the _Keyboards Recording & Computer_ magazine
in the mail a few weeks ago, but the packaging was split wide open... sans
the coveted `sampling' cd [with the Uwe Schmidt sounds]. Anyway, before I
sent it back, my buddy Jen offered to transcribe the featured AH interview
for us.
It's in German... so, since this is such a `worldly' list and all we
decided to go ahead and post it figuring at least *some* of you chimps
would dig it. I'm sure Uwe has a lot of interesting shit to say, but I
can't read a bit of it myself (duh). English translation anyone?
Oh, and it's the next message by the way.
hud.
.`--).
o o ._)
christopher miller ==;'
evil@digital.net =='
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on: "Digital Superimposing" by SUPERFICIAL DEPTH
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 00:41:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: ATOM HEART/LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS LIST <mother@nicar.org>
Subject: (mother) Interview in Keyboards Recording & Computer.
A T O M H E A R T
Uber "Atomherz" Uwe Schmidt berichten zu wollen ist ein schwieriges
unterfangen. Kaum ein Deutscher Produzent hat eine so beachtliche, ja
geradezu atemberaubende diskographie vorzuweisen. Atomheart beherrscht
viele stile, marschiert wohlgemut durch ambient soundscapes, techno, acid,
industrial, jazz, experimental jungle etc. und kehrt immer wieder nach
hause Zuruck, ohne sich im finsteren wald zu verlaufen oder der bosen
knusperhexe zum opfer zu fallen. Er ist geradezu entwaffnend schweigsam,
fallt niemals auf, tanzt niemals auf der theke und landet nie in der gosse
oder auf dem schoss der barfrau. Dr. Walker sprach mit Atomheart am tag
vor der abreise zu seiner Australientournee.
WALKER: Das band lauft...
ATOMHEART: Gut.
W: Ja.
A: Ja.
W: Es ist auffallig, dass du nicht so recht in das klischee eines
technostart passt. Man sieht dich kaum auf parties, nach deinen
auftritten verschwindest du immer direkt. Bananensaft statt wodka...
A: Parties sind nicht so mein ding. Das brauch ich einfach nicht - einmal
pro monat reicht. Parties sind zwar gut als inspiration, aber ich
brauch sie nicht. Ich heb mir meine energie lieber auf.
W: Wann hast du mit der musik angefangen?
A: Eigentlich habe ich mit schlagzeug angefangen, so 81/82. Ich musste das
schlagzeug dann aber wegen meiner nachbarn verkaufen und hab mir von dem
geld einen Drumcomputer zugelegt. Es war eher ein zufalliger kontakt
mit elektronik, obwohl Ich damals auch schon elektronische musik gehort
habe. Ich habe mir einen Synthie und einen 4-Spur-Recorder ausgeliehen.
Das ganze war wenig gewollt, es ist eher "passiert." Von der ersten
kassettenproduktion zur ersten schallplatte - das war wirklich eher
zufallig. Im grunde ist heute auch noch alles zufallig. Es gibt
eigentlich nichts, was ich langer als ein halbes jahr im voraus plane.
W: Du hast Mit Industrial angefangen.
A: Ja, damals gas es nichts anderes.
W: Dein weg ging also vom Industrial zu Techno und von dort zu den mehr
Experimentelleren sachen?
A: Ja, so ungefahr.
W: Du bist ja inzwischen schon durch einige musikalische stile gewandert.
Was sind deine prognosen - wie geht es weiter?
A: Generell befinden wir uns ja in einer zeit, in der stile eher aufgelost
werden. Es wird mehr Fusioniert. Von Hiphop und Triphop zu Ambient un
Jungle usw. Es gibt weniger beruhrungsangste. Das ist bei mir nicht
anders. Diese tendenz habe Ich fur mich schon vor 2 jahren endeckt.
Der Mainstream-techno lasst die vision vermissen, da guckt man halt, wo
es weitergehen kann. Es wird wohn noch etwas duaern, bis sich ein neuer
stil herauskrist allisiert hat.
W: Du wirst in kurze nach Chile umziehen. Hat das etwas mit deiner suche
nach einem neuen stil zu tun?
A: Ja, es hat etwas mit inspirationen zu tun. Es ist eine mischung aus
einer sehr privaten entscheidung und einer, die auch etwas mit der musik
zu tun hat. Ich mochte das fokussiertsein auf die szene, in der Ich
mich zur zeit befinde, aufgeben. Wenn ich so die zeitungen durchsehe,
dann stelle ich fest, dass es sich eigentlich nur um ein parr hundert,
allenfalls tausend leuten dreht. Alles ist unglaublich ernst und
wichtig. Fur mich hat das ganze allerdings immer weniger bedeutung.
Ich mochte meiner musik keine bedeutung beimessen, die sie nicht hat.
Ich mochte fur mich neue musikalische gebiete erschliessen.
W: Warum ausgerechnet in Chile und nicht Sudafrika?
A: Lateinamerika ist seit langer zeit ein gebiet, das immer wieder in
meinem leben auftaucht. Vor Ca. 7 jahren fand ich dann auch interesse
an Lateinamerikanischer musik, die Ich vorher nie mochte. Ich bin ein
paar mal nach Costa Rica und Chile gereist, das war sehr inspirierend.
Es herrschen dort ganz andere schwingungen, als die, die wir so kennen.
Ausserdem is ein freund von mir Chilene. Durch ihn war ich letztes jahr
zweimal dort und dabei viele musiker kennengelernt. Bei meinum letzten
aufenthalt wurde mir klar, dass ich jetzt dort hinziehen muss.
W: Gibt es da eine szene fur dich, kannst du da dein taglich brot
verdienen.
A: Also liveauftritte sind da nicht so angesagt. Die szene ist sehr, sehr
klein. Es gibt keine labels, nur majorvertriebe. Es gibt keine
independentszene. Fur mich bleibt also Europa erst einmal schwerpunkt
zur veroffentlichung meiner scheiben. Ein freund hier in Frankfurt wird
mein label weiterfuhren. Ich glaube, dass das ganze so klappt.
W: Du wirst ja mit sicherheit auf eine ganze menge seltsamer probleme
stossen: stromschwankungen, ausfalle von geraten, da irgendwelche kafer
darin nisten.
A: Chile klingt ganz schon "Weit Weg", ganz schon funky. Aber das ist es
eigentlich nicht. Chile ist eines der zivilisiertesten lander
Lateinamerikas. Ich hatte bis jetzt da keinerlei probleme. In Costa
Rica haben Z. B. die ameisen in allem genistet, was offnungen hatte,
sowas gibt es in chile nicht. Was den kontakt zu Europa angeht, muss
ich halt sehen, welche sich herausfiltern, welche bestehen bleiben, Was
passiert. Zuruckkommen kann immer noch.
W: Dir grosse herausforderung?
A: Ja, Ich hatte diese vision, wie es in 5 jahren aussehen wird: meine
500. Atomheart. Diese vorstellund fand ich nicht so wahnsinning
anregend. Ich mochte nicht so lange dasselbe machen. Ich meine, es ist
ja nicht dasselbe, man entwickelt sich ja wieter, abver das setup
verandert sich nie. Das is irgendwie nicht spannend. Ich mochte in
Lateinamerika veil mit anderen musikern zusammenarbeiten. Ich mochte in
CHile viel mit der asthetik arbeiten, die dort existiert. Mir
plattencover von den malern erstellen lassen, die dort vor der kirche
leute Portratieren, die nicht unbedingt gut sind. Mit so einer asthetik
mochte ich operieren.
W: Das hort sich gut an.
A: Ja, esist mit sicherheit nicht einfach, mich hier loszueisen, aber ich
habe das gluck, dass ich flexible strukturen habe. Ich muss halt
gucken, wie ich alles ruberbringe, wie Ich die verbindung zu label und
vertrieb aufrechterhalte.
W: Internet?
A: Ja, Internet ist wohl die halbe miete. Alle reden da von, dass die welt
immer mehr zusammenruckt - das werde ich jetze ausprobieren.
W: Reden wir kurz uber dein equipment.
A: Mein equipment is sehr, sehr minimal. Fast alles nur Akai, obwolt die
ja so einen schlechten ruf haben. Ich hab einen S3200 als hauptgerat
und eine MPC300. Alks hardddiscrecorder benutze Ich den DR8. Nach
Chile werd Ich wohl nur die MPC mitnehmen. Ansonsten habe Ich einen
nordlead...
W: Das keyboard?
A: Ne, das rack. Ich habe nur rackmodule. Ich spiele alles uber die MPC-
PADS ein oder uber andere controller wie sequencer. Mein setup ist
eigentlich auf den sampler konzentriert. Ich habe sehr viel peripherie,
kompressoren, multieffekte, USW.
W: Deine sounds bekommst du dann woher?
A: Ich sample manchmal tegeland den nordlead oder irgendwelche module oder
das radio. Analoggerate habe Ich keine mehr. Am ende kann doch eh
nieman sagen, wo ein sound herkommt. Es kommt eher darauf an, was die
person, die die musik macht, erreichen will, als was fur equipment
benutzt wird.
W: Hast du noch irgend eine message?
A: Ne.
W: Eine politische aussage?
A: Ne.
W: Hundezucht ist cool?
A: Ne, ne. Ich hab gerade nichts zu verbreiten.
W: No message?
A: Ne, Ich verbreite ja auch nur ungern eigentlich...
Na dann man prosti Ich hoffe auf eine baldige einladung ins sonnige Chile
und wunsche dir dort alles gute.
Dr. Walker
Keyboards Recording & Computer
Marz/March 1997
pp. ??-??
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 10:01:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: ATOM HEART/LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS LIST <mother@nicar.org>
Subject: (mother) Review: AH @ sel i/s/c
Um.
This nice long review was posted onto the Ambient list yesterday by
one of our very own:
---------- Forwarded Message ----------
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 09:43:37 -0500 (CDT)
From: Deckard <njurcin@orion.it.luc.edu>
Subject: (amb) Review: AH @ sel i/s/c
Review: Atom Heart "Live at sel i/s/c" (PS08/41)
Total time: 1.01.44
This one came out in early to mid-1994 as one of Atom Heart's first solo
efforts on Fax (along with Orange and Coeur Atomique). Totally beatless,
Live at sel i/s/c is a one-song journey that is just over an hour, and
there are track divisions every 5 minutes for convenience. Live at sel
i/s/c is extremely minimal and consists of two main sounds. The first is a
robust, ambient glow that is present throughout the piece's entirety (with
a short 1-minute exception that marks the disc's midpoint). This sound is
all the listener hears during the first and last 5 minutes of the disc, and
though it is fairly low-profile sounding, there are subtle yet noticeable
texture changes every now and then. The other sound you hear seems to be
the focal point of the piece. It is a very basic, soft sinewave-type sound
whose pitch and timbre seems to be real-time controlled, as it is
constantly changing and doing different things... after all, this is a live
album. The meandering sinewave sound noodles itself through very
submarine-sounding reverberations... scraps of the melodic contour ricochet
off distant oceanic shelves. For me, this disc is quite visually
evocative. The melodic segments are very underwater sounding. It's almost
as if I'm snorkeling. About 20 minutes into the disc (somewhere in track
5), a coherent melody emerges. It is repetitive, but tastefully so, much
like a mantra which keeps your attention, but doesn't lead you around like
a fisherman with a whale on the line. Track sections 6 and 7 are my
favorites, the coherence of the melody has dispersed in the deep, and
you're left floating. The ambient glow gives me the same impression that I
would have if I were to look further from the comfort of the clear, shallow
waters to the slope not far off, whose gradual depth and darker blues
obscure the largest creatures on the planet. Midway through section 7 the
glow vanishes for a minute, and there's a short melodic solo. The second
half of the disc seems to take this melody into a progression which starts
out fast, but winds down gradually for the remander of the piece (are we
running out of air?!?!) It's timbre is slowly but constantly changing,
ranging from a blatant tin to a more subdued and rounded feel. Other
melodies, meanwhile, try to leak through to the forefront, but our synth
mantra dominates. Optimistic, electronic minimalism. All in all, a
pleasantly relaxing listening experience.
no@h
. . . . . . ...
---------- End ----------
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 10:18:25 -0400
From: "jsherburne(contr-jdupo)" <jsherburne@snap.org>
To: "'mother@nicar.org'" <mother@nicar.org>
Subject: (mother) AMP II/Interview
Could anyone give me a rough description/review of the Dandy Jack/Pete
Namlook "Amp II" album? I just ordered a copy of it so don't tell me if
it's really bad or anything. By the way, I guess I should introduce myself
- I'm John. I've been subscribed to the list for a while, but I just
haven't posted anything until now. Hi.
Oh yeah, here is my contribution to the translation of the Keyboards
interview:
WALKER: Das band lauft...
ATOMHEART: Gut.
WALKER: The tape is running...
ATOMHEART: Good.
I'm sti ll working on the rest.
John
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 21:15:35 +0200 (CES)
From: ujf0@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: Re: (mother) Interview.
According to Christopher Miller:
> I finally got a copy of the _Keyboards Recording & Computer_
> magazine in the mail a few weeks ago, but the packaging was split wide
> open... sans the coveted `sampling' cd [with the Uwe Schmidt sounds].
> Anyway, before I sent it back, my buddy Jen offered to transcribe the
> featured AH interview for us.
>
> It's in German... so, since this is such a `worldly' list and all we
> decided to go ahead and post it figuring at least *some* of you chimps
> would dig it. I'm sure Uwe has a lot of interesting shit to say, but I
> can't read a bit of it myself (duh). English translation anyone?
Hello i read this few months ago ..there is really not much inside ,
its quite short interview ...i can try translating it ..if there is a
interest of the list .
Metin