Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 09:55:38 +0000
From: boomboomkids <galaxey@earthlink.net>
To: mother@hyperreal.org
Subject: (atom) 2 in 1
why is it soooooo many RI tracks sound like 2 different songs panned hard
left and right, synced, and recorded as 1 track?
--
-gilly
........&Mac186;protest protesters&Mac186;.............
JESUS TOLD ME TO KILL- LUKE 19:27
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:14:21 -0500 (CDT)
From: Noah <njurcin@orion.it.luc.edu>
To: Mother <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: (atom) 2 in 1
> why is it soooooo many RI tracks sound like 2 different songs panned hard
> left and right, synced, and recorded as 1 track?
that's what is known as Binary Amplification, popularised by the wonderful
BASS release, but used in many other instances both before and after BASS.
In some cases, one channel was recorded in one location, and channel 2 in
another (Ondas). The question is not why, but why not?
no@h
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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 10:09:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Hal Vx2 <macos@icomm.ca>
To: mother@hyperreal.org
Subject: (atom) del haze entertainment news september 1998 (fwd)
Ok.. the Pop Artificielle release date was alittle bit off the mark in my
last e-mail.. you'll be seeing it alot sooner.
Hal.
---------- Forwarded Message ----------
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 01:09:57 -0400
From: delhaze <delhaze@bbs.itn.cl>
To: macos@icomm.ca
Subject: del haze entertainment news september 1998
:: :::::::
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*news september 1998*
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*music*
- august saw the release of rather interesting's *naturalist*.
- termination of production for the next rather interesting release
entitled *dropshadow disease*.
- official release date for the lassigue bendthaus album *pop artificielle*
will be the 20th of october.
- first recordings for the next lisa carbon album to be entitled *lisa
carbon plays entertainment standards*.
*design*
- linger decoree design for album *pop artificielle*.
*communication*
- macos members: 250
- macos (musicians against copyrighting of samples) internet
address: http://www.icomm.ca/macos
- macos mailing list: macos-list@resrocket.com
- macos e-mail address: macos@icomm.ca
- atom heart website:
http://www.hyperreal.org/music/artists/atom_heart/
- rather interesting website:
http://www.hyperreal.org/music/labels/rather_interesting/
- atom heart booking: contact del haze entertainment directly
- rather interesting distribution and mailorder: emc distribution
service, tel: +49-6039/45406.
e-mail: thier@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de
fax: +49-6039/931566
- rather interesting u.s. distribution: fax label u.s.a.,
tel/fax: +1-415/383 7990.
new web domain: http://www.faxlabel.com/distribution.html
- rather interesting fax: ++56-2-3419870
- rather interesting e-mail: delhaze@bbs.itn.cl
*favourite questions asked after concerts*
01. what kind of techno do you play?
02. how many megabyte holds that machine?
03. do you have a 303?
04. where do you come from? (how do i know...)
05. have you released a record yet?
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:: del haze entertainment ::
:: pedro lira 1473 a ::
:: providencia ::
:: santiago ::
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:: tel: ++56-2-2042728 ::
:: fax: ++56-2-3419870 ::
:: e-mail: delhaze@bbs.itn.cl ::
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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 01:10:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rod Julian Modell <R-MODE@webtv.net>
To: whitezone-l@lists.sonic.net
Subject: whitezone-l Dots by A. Heart wanted
I'm looking for a copy of "Dots" by atom heart on Rather Interesting.
Please contact if you can help.
Thanks,
R-MODE@webtv.net
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 98 17:09:43 PDT
From: B. Yost <byost@megsinet.net>
To: mother@hyperreal.org
Subject: (atom) Almost Digital - request for review
Just got done scanning the Uwe Grocery List. Could someone who has it
describe/review the Almost Digital release? If it's what I'm thinking it
is, it has one 60+ minute track? Saw it in a store once but didn't pick it
up.
Thanks in advance.
-- Brad Yost
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 10:49:28 +0100
From: Tim Wright <timwright@dial.pipex.com>
To: mother@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (atom) Almost Digital - request for review
Maybe you're thinking of Digital Superimposing by Superficial Depth, which
is one 60-odd minute track? Almost Digital - a.d. has eight tracks on...
Tim W>
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 98 18:49:30 PDT
From: B. Yost <byost@megsinet.net>
To: mother@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (atom) Almost Digital - request for review
> Maybe you're thinking of Digital Superimposing by Superficial Depth,
> which is one 60-odd minute track? Almost Digital - a.d. has eight tracks
> on...
Could be. The CD definitely was just one very long track. I distinctly
remember that because I tried to listen to it in the store, but their CD
player didn't have a working FF button so there was no way to sample deeper
into the track. I sat and listened for 3 minutes without hearing a thing
because the store's stereo system was so loud it completely drowned out
everything in my headphones. The thing that made me think it was Almost
Digital was the label. I thought I recalled the project being on Hypnotism
or Hypnotic or some such label. But I could be wrong about that. My
recollection of the cover art was a relatively simple, nondescript
monochromish look with a predominance of maybe pale violet (I'm somewhat
colorblind so that could be off, unfortunately). It was definitely an Atom
Heart project though. Ring any bells anyone?
-- Brad
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 19:53:25 -0700
From: Brett McCormick <brett@funky.chicken.org>
To: mother@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (atom) Almost Digital - request for review
That's Digital Superimposing for sure. The first three minutes are silent
as far I was able to tell. It is a very long, "ambient" track. Some beaty
ambient structures end up evolving after a while and visit the
"nothingness" (not actual silence though) occasionally. This review may
not be fair as I've only listened to the cd once or twice.
I'd think of it as one of those brian eno-esque pieces, that you can't
actually focus upon for satisfaction, they only work their magic when you
aren't listening to it. I've yet to listen to it in this way, but I will.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 06:02:04 -0500
From: Gary Hendershot <ghenders@gary-hendershot.com>
To: Atom_Heart_List <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: RE: (atom) Morphogenetic BitNiks
> >> The one Uwe disc that has really eluded me has been "Morphogenetic
> >> Fields." Can anyone with this CD give a description of the graphics?
> >> I'm wondering if it has misleading, generic, or minimal design. Is it
> >> in a jewel case?
-----------------------------------------------------------
> > It comes in a digipak, mostly white with some green streaks on it. The
> > writing on it is in reflective silver and in a fairly small font, so
> > it's not the easiest thing to read.
-----------------------------------------------------------
> Yeah, this is Milagro. Morpho is darkish green with all kinds of digital
> interference and moire patterns. Done by the Designer Republic people.
> And it has fun things written all over it like "Stealing Is Divine" and
> "Love The Source" and "Audible Shareware." Milagro, as Adam said, is
> more white with green interferences.
===========================================================
Yes, I've had the "Milagro" CD-EP for a while now.
Using your visual description of "Morphogernetic Fields," I would say I
have definitely never seen this. I bought my "Milagro" out of a bargain
bin about two years ago and have seen it around a few times since. I've
also noticed plenty of other CD-EP bargains on the Our Choice/Rough Trade
GmBH record label, from Einst¸rzende Neubauten.
/*-----------------------------------------------------------------*/
CD on now: Roedelius -- ^”Geschenk Des Augenblicks^‘ (Virgin)
CD on next: V/A -- ^”Organism .01" (Dossier)
/*-----------------------------------------------------------------*/
-Gary H-
ghenders@gary-hendershot.com
Houston, TX USA
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 06:03:58 -0500
From: Gary Hendershot <ghenders@gary-hendershot.com>
To: Atom_Heart_List <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: RE: (atom) Re: The Uwe Schmidt Grocery-List
(albums/e.p.s/singles).
I don't see the following on the release list:
E.E. Surreal (Atom Heart & Finkbeiner) -- "E.E. Surreal" CD
...on POD Communications
Was this actually ever released?
/*-----------------------------------------------------------------*/
CD on now: Roedelius -- ^”Geschenk Des Augenblicks^‘ (Virgin)
CD on next: V/A -- ^”Organism .01" (Dossier)
/*-----------------------------------------------------------------*/
-Gary H-
ghenders@gary-hendershot.com
Houston, TX USA
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 22:08:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: ATOM HEART/LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS MAILING-LIST (#3) <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: (atom) Re: The Uwe Schmidt Grocery-List (albums/e.p.s/singles).
On Tue, 8 Sep 1998, Gary Hendershot wrote:
> I don't see the following on the release list:
>
> E.E. Surreal (Atom Heart & Finkbeiner) -- "E.E. Surreal" CD
> ...on POD Communications
>
> Was this actually ever released?
The recording does exist, but it was never released... and
unfortunately there are currently no plans to do so.
e.e.
.`-).
| ;
christopher miller o o'
evil@digital.net =
'
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:26:16 -0500 (CDT)
From: phlux@ix.netcom.com
To: mother@nicar.org
Subject: (atom) EE
On 09/08/98 22:08:44 you wrote:
> > E.E. Surreal (Atom Heart & Finkbeiner) -- "E.E. Surreal" CD
>> ...on POD Communications
>
> The recording does exist, but it was never released... and unfortunately
> there are currently no plans to do so.
So what were the reasons for this album's non-release ?
Rob
Codec! http://www.mindstorm.com/codec
LogiQ http://www.sinless.com/logiq
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:31:45 -0400
From: Laurent Vitalis <laurent@intellia.com>
To: Atom_Heart_List <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: (atom) Unavailable stuff
I'm just wondering if it's illegal to copy cd that are no longer available.
I know it's illegal to make copies of Celine Dion's latest album because if
you do so, she will get less money (and RenÈ will be angry). But if it's
IMPOSSIBLE to get a certain cd even with a huge amount of money, i do no
harm to the artist.
Don't you all think the same way ?
I'm asking because i'm thinking about trading mp3 or cd copies since i
can't find anything old from mr. Schmidt.
laurent.vitalis@intellia.com
web artist
514.939.9750 x 2065
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 15:44:14 +0000
From: boomboomkids <galaxey@earthlink.net>
To: Laurent Vitalis <laurent@intellia.com>
Cc: Atom_Heart_List <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: (atom) Unavailable stuff
I say Copy whatever you want as long as you're not selling it I don't think
you'll really be investigated for anything. Yes there are laws and stuff
(whcih I can look up for this list later about duping stuff) but when I get
my CD burner next month (I hope) I plan on burning dupes with peeps
--
-gilly
........&Mac186;protest protesters&Mac186;.............
JESUS TOLD ME TO KILL- LUKE 19:27
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:13:28 -0500
From: Gary Hendershot <ghenders@gary-hendershot.com>
To: Atom_Heart_List <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: RE: (atom) Unavailable stuff
This issue just seems to keep coming up.....
===========================================================================
> > I'm just wondering if it's illegal to copy cd that are no longer
> > available. ~~~~~~~~<snip>~~~~~~~~ But if it's IMPOSSIBLE to get a
> > certain cd even with a huge amount of money, i do no harm to the
> > artist.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, it is illegal. Even if a CD or LP is unavailable or out-of-print or
whatever, the artist still retains all copyrights on both the musical
composition and the recording performance and could come after you legally
-- if they wanted to -- for unathorised copying. It's just simply "too
bad" if something has gone out-of-print. You don't have any *legal* rights
to make copies and distribute just because it is not commercially
available.
===========================================================================
> I say Copy whatever you want as long as you're not selling it I don't
> think you'll really be investigated for anything. Yes there are laws and
> stuff (whcih I can look up for this list later about duping stuff) but
> when I get my CD burner next month (I hope) I plan on burning dupes with
> peeps
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If you make copies for yourself (only) after you have bought a legitimate
copy, according to the USA laws, this is legal. If you SELL *or* GIVE AWAY
copies, this is ILLEGAL.
These "music consumer" laws were finally hammered out by the USA Congress
back when consumer audio recording technology was strictly analogue tape-
based (music cassette, open reel, 8-track, and <gasp> el-cassette). Since
then, digital duplicating technology has slowly taken hold in the consumer
domain and now many record companies maintain that making ANY DIGITAL
COPIES (this means DAT, CD-R, Mini-Disc, MP3, CD-R/W, etc) of their music
is illegal.
They came to this decision by interpreting clauses of the (now old)
existing law concerning mass duplication in a way to include any digital
technologies. Even though they are definitely walking a fine grey line
here, many record companies consider DIGITAL copying as illegal because --
as far as they are concerned -- digital copying constitutes conspiracy to
perform mass duplication. This is particularly bizarre when you take the
example of Sony: Makers of pre-recorded music, digital copying
technologies (CD-R, CD-R/W, Mini-Disc), and digital copying media!
Chances are when these laws are finally amended, you'll likely find (guess
what) Mini-Disc as the only "accepted" digital copying technology, because
Sony will lobby hard for its patented technology. Even though Mini-Disc is
digital technology, its audio compression is "lossey" and thus like good
ol' analogue technology, and so the "infinite copying issue" becomes
somewhat moot.
/*-----------------------------------------------------------------*/
CD on now: Eno -- ^”Taking Tiger Mountain" (Virgin/EG)
CD on next: Harmonia 76 -- ^”Tracks & Traces" (Ryko)
/*-----------------------------------------------------------------*/
-Gary H-
ghenders@gary-hendershot.com
Houston, TX USA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:44:16 -0500 (CDT)
From: Noah <njurcin@orion.it.luc.edu>
To: Atom_Heart_List <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: RE: (atom) Unavailable stuff
> If you make copies for yourself (only) after you have bought a legitimate
> copy, according to the USA laws, this is legal. If you SELL *or* GIVE
> AWAY copies, this is ILLEGAL.
Ok. What if you buy your originals, make yourself CDRs of all of them
(for "personal" use), and then sell all the originals for bucks?
no@h
. . . . . . ..... . . . . . .
|nf0rm@+|0n w@n+5 +0 b3 fr33
. . . . . . ..... . . . . . .
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:48:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Warren Lapham <laps@2350.org>
To: Gary Hendershot <ghenders@gary-hendershot.com>
Cc: Atom_Heart_List <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: RE: (atom) Unavailable stuff
On Thu, 10 Sep 1998, Gary Hendershot wrote:
> This issue just seems to keep coming up.....
Yup. Since AH is a member of MACOS, this is relevent to the list, right?
=)
> These "music consumer" laws were finally hammered out by the USA Congress
> back when consumer audio recording technology was strictly analogue tape-
> based (music cassette, open reel, 8-track, and <gasp> el-cassette).
> Since then, digital duplicating technology has slowly taken hold in the
> consumer domain and now many record companies maintain that making ANY
> DIGITAL COPIES (this means DAT, CD-R, Mini-Disc, MP3, CD-R/W, etc) of
> their music is illegal.
Well...that's not what I heard:
reprinted from the copyright
FAQ (ftp://ftp.aimnet.com/pub/users/carroll/law/copyright/faq/part3)
3.7) Can I legally make a cassette copy of a musical CD for my own use,
so I can play it in my car?
This issue has been argued back and forth for many years, with consumers
groups arguing that this was a fair use (see sections 2.8 and 2.9), and the
recording industry arguing that it was not. The issue was finally settled
by Congress when the Audio Home Recording Act (AHRA) (P.L. 102-563, 106
Stat. 4237, codified at 17 U.S.C. 1001 - 1010) was passed in October 1992.
This Act added ten sections to Title 17, one of which provided an
alternative to the fair use analysis for musical recordings. The new
section states:
No action may be brought under this title alleging infringement of
copyright based on the manufacture, importation, or distribution of a
digital audio recording device, a digital audio recording medium, an
analog recording device, or an analog recording medium, or based on the
noncommercial use by a consumer of such a device or medium for making
digital musical recordings or analog musical recordings.
17 U.S.C. 1008.
As the legislative history to this statute noted, "In short, the reported
legislation would clearly establish that consumers cannot be sued for
making analog or digital audio copies for private noncommercial use."
H.R. Rep. 102-780(I).
Does this mean you can make copies for your family and friends, as long as
it's not "commercial?" A strict reading of the words in the statute would
seem to say that you may. This is not as outrageous as it sounds. Part of
the impetus behind the AHRA was the perception that blank tapes were being
used mostly to copy commercial musical sound recordings. As a result, the
AHRA provided that a royalty payment (referred to as a "DAT tax" by its
detractors) be paid for each sale of digital audio tape to compensate
authors of musical works and sound recordings for the profits lost due to
these copies. See 17 U.S.C. 1003, 1004. Arguably, the AHRA anticipates and
allows exactly this type of copying, and a literal reading of section 1008
would tend to support this position. But the AHRA is still sufficiently
new this hasn't been tested in court yet.
Note, also, that this section applies only to musical recordings; it
clearly does not include spoken word recordings. Of course, it is still
possible that such a use of a spoken word recording might still be
considered a section 107 fair use (see sections 2.8 and 2.9), even though
section 1008 does not apply to provide a clear exemption.
-w.
--
Warren Lapham
laps@2350.org
FAXlabel reviews ::
http://www.2350.org/
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:28:46 -0400
From: Adam J Weitzman <Adam.J.Weitzman@newsedge.com>
To: Atom_Heart_List <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: (atom) Unavailable stuff
[AHRA stuff deleted]
While this *was* true when the AHRA was passed, the rules have changed
since then. The "No Digital Copying Act" (or something to that effect)
which was passed recently amends the copyright laws so that you are an
infringer if you distribute copyrighted material, even if you receive
nothing in return. The law was passed in order to prevent the thing that
happened at MIT where someone uploaded a copy of Microsoft Word to a BBS
where others could download it for free. Since the person who ran the BBS
and the uploader received no money in return for it, it was very hard to
prosecute them as copyright infringers, so they passed this law. It pretty
clearly applies to music recordings as well.
Unfortunately, I don't have the time to look up the language (or the
name of the Act) right now. The effect of the Act is to redefine
"noncommercial" so that handing out or trading tapes or CDRs with
friends is no longer covered, though that might not be the specific
language.
--
Adam J Weitzman
NewsEdge Corporation Welcome to my signature.
http://www.newsedge.com Please wipe your feet.
http://www.newspage.com
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 13:52:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: laerm <laerm@voicenet.com>
To: mother@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (atom) Unavailable stuff
On Thu, 10 Sep 1998, Warren Lapham wrote:
> Yup. Since AH is a member of MACOS, this is relevent to the list, right?
> =)
yeah - i would think he wouldn't mind if we made mp3's of the old stuff
so we all could hear it.
i forget whoever proposed this idea, but if they get it off the ground,
please contact me. thanks.
*
####
a disturbance in a system. ####
laerm. @voicenet.com ####
a fortune cookie i ate 08/06/98 told me: "a girlfriend is a
wine bottle. a wife is a bottle of wine."
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:04:33 -0400
From: Laurent Vitalis <laurent@intellia.com>
To: Atom_Heart_List <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: (atom) Unavailable stuff
The issue here is not what's legal or not. I will not go in prison if i
copy Silver Sound or Interactive Music to a friend. Warez pirates who
distribute Adobe Photoshop 5.0 are more dangerous. Anyway... I don't
think Uwe Schmidt makes music only for money, he wants his music to be
listened to. I would like to know why Rather Interesting albums are so
limited...
laurent.vitalis@intellia.com
web artist
514.939.9750 x 2065
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:20:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sean Cooper <scooper@best.com>
To: mother@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (atom) Unavailable stuff
i share the enthusiasm the author expresses below. however--and this is
the answer to his question--most of the rest of the world does not.
sc
On Thu, 10 Sep 1998, Laurent Vitalis wrote:
> The issue here is not what's legal or not. I will not go in prison if i
> copy Silver Sound or Interactive Music to a friend. Warez pirates who
> distribute Adobe Photoshop 5.0 are more dangerous. Anyway... I don't
> think Uwe Schmidt makes music only for money, he wants his music to be
> listened to. I would like to know why Rather Interesting albums are so
> limited...
>
>
> laurent.vitalis@intellia.com
> web artist
> 514.939.9750 x 2065
>
>
>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:22:49 -0400
From: Adam J Weitzman <Adam.J.Weitzman@newsedge.com>
To: Atom_Heart_List <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: (atom) Unavailable stuff
Laurent Vitalis wrote:
> The issue here is not what's legal or not. I will not go in
> prison if i copy Silver Sound or Interactive Music to a friend.
Likely not. However, I believe it is important to know what side of the
law you are on when you do these things.
I'd wager that Uwe probably doesn't mind people making re-recordings of his
out-of-print stuff, but I have no basis for that belief apart from "it
seems right." Maybe someone on this list can contact him and get a
definitive answer?
--
Adam J Weitzman
NewsEdge Corporation Welcome to my signature.
http://www.newsedge.com Please wipe your feet.
http://www.newspage.com
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:49:03 +0100
From: Tim Wright <timwright@dial.pipex.com>
To: Atom_Heart_List <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: (atom) Unavailable stuff
Laurent said:
>But if it's IMPOSSIBLE to get a certain cd even with a huge
>amount of money, i do no harm to the artist.
>
>Don't you all think the same way ?
I think I might have to agree with you, because you've put so much stress
on
the IMPOSSIBLE. But I'm not sure that there are any that are *actually*
impossible. OK, I'm having big trouble with one or two, but that's only a
temporary thing I'm sure.
And if I were to accept a CDR copy of one - speaking hypothetically of
course ;-) - I'd still be after an original.
Hmmm...one for the lawyers on the list:
If I own a CD, is it legal (well, under US law or any other you happen to
know about) for me to accept a CDR copy of that same music from somebody
else? This might be relevant if my copy were damaged or, pehaps, stolen
(bastards bastards bastards!!!)
Ahem :-)
Tim W>
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 07:16:22 -0500
From: Gary Hendershot <ghenders@gary-hendershot.com>
To: Atom_Heart_List <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: RE: (atom) Unavailable stuff
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>
> And if I were to accept a CDR copy of one - speaking hypothetically
> of course ;-) - I'd still be after an original.
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Well, I'm afraid you are in the minority! There's a growing horde of
misfits around that have no intention whatsoever in legitimately
purchasing any CD, if they can help it. And it's not like they are
poor, as they make sizable investments in CD-R equipment, software,
and CD-R media -- not to mention copying time.
==========================================================================
>
> Hmmm...one for the lawyers on the list:
>
> If I own a CD, is it legal (well, under US law or any other you happen
> to know about) for me to accept a CDR copy of that same music from
> somebody else?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nope. Because you would be (knowingly) receiving a product of illegal
activities. But, hypothetically, it would be rather hard for a record
company or artist to prove that the CD-R copy you had wasn't made by you
for your own use -- unless you did not own a CD-R drive. If you didn't
own a CD-R drive, it would be then be time to get legal counsel. Oi!
^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^
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CD on now: Seefeel -- ^”Starethrough^‘ (Warp)
CD on next: Stars Of The Lid -- ^”Gravitational Pull vs. The Desire
For An Aquatic Life" (Kranky)
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-Gary H-
ghenders@gary-hendershot.com
Houston, TX USA
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 07:23:14 -0500
From: Gary Hendershot <ghenders@gary-hendershot.com>
To: Atom_Heart_List <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: RE: (atom) EE Surreal
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>>>
>>> I don't see the following on the release list:
>>>
>>> E.E. Surreal (Atom Heart & Finkbeiner) -- "E.E. Surreal" CD
>>> ...on POD Communications
>>>
>>> Was this actually ever released?
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>>
>> The recording does exist, but it was never released... and
>> unfortunately there are currently no plans to do so.
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>
> So what were the reasons for this album's non-release ?
==========================================================================
Quite possibly the Atom Heart + Finkbeiner CD was scheduled to be
released at some point on the calendar by POD, but the plug was
pulled on POD Comm before then. But, if Uwe has the rights to the
recording, then he has probably decided to not release it (probably
for very good reasons!).
POD Communications was dissolved over a year ago. POD's parent
company -- Plastic Head Distribution (a.k.a. -- PHD) is still around
pushing heavy metal and other whatnot. Various POD Communications
releases can still be had, as most were slow sellers and some are
still in the wholesale channel.
^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^
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CD on now: Seefeel -- ^”Starethrough^‘ (Warp)
CD on next: Stars Of The Lid -- ^”Gravitational Pull vs. The Desire
For An Aquatic Life" (Kranky)
^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^X^
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-Gary H-
ghenders@gary-hendershot.com
Houston, TX USA
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:49:30 -0700
From: "~(({[Endemic~Distortion]}))~" <jpklein@flash.net>
To: Uwe and Friends <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: (atom) Lassigue
This on Jay & marie's list.... jaysenese@aol.com price is ppd in US
- HURRY if you want it.
Lassigue Bendthaus: Render $10
jeff
--
dancing/about/architechture "...with wandering steps and slow..." ICQ904008
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 03:13:36 -0700
From: Brett McCormick <brett@funky.chicken.org>
To: laerm <laerm@voicenet.com>
Cc: mother@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (atom) Unavailable stuff
Well, at the risk of offending the gods, I've put track 7 from Dots up
at http://www.chicken.org/music/mp3/
It's pretty old, I doubt this one track will keep any revenue from
anyone. prove me wrong!
On Thu, 10 September 1998, at 13:52:39, laerm@voicenet.com wrote:
> yeah - i would think he wouldn't mind if we made mp3's of the old stuff
> so we all could hear it.
>
> i forget whoever proposed this idea, but if they get it off the ground,
> please contact me. thanks.
>
> *
> ####
> a disturbance in a system.
####
> laerm. @voicenet.com
####
> a fortune cookie i ate 08/06/98 told me: "a girlfriend is
a
> wine bottle. a wife is a bottle of
wine."
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 03:17:15 -0700
From: Brett McCormick <brett@funky.chicken.org>
To: mother@hyperreal.org
Subject: (atom) (ft) need jet chamber 2?
I have the chance to trade dreamfish 2 for jet chamber 2 (both on fax). I
already have jet chamber 2 -- is there anyone here who has some atom heart
to trade for it? Or should I just get the extra copy knowing that someone
will probably want it at some point..
--brett
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:16:29 +1000
From: Chris <ctourgelis@wr.com.au>
To: mother@hyperreal.org
Subject: (atom) Rabelais explains -23-
Hi all,
I'm back from an extended holiday in Europe (had a top time :^) My holiday
reading for train travel and lazy afternoons for the most part was the
Penguin Classics translation of Francois Rabelais' "Gargantua and
Pantagruel" [written 1534-~53]. An excellent book btw - it seems to go
well with the summer holiday in the northern hemisphere (not that my
holiday was especially Rabelaisian, mind you).
I mention this because at one part he says something that may help explain
the significance of the no. 23, as discussed here earlier on in the year.
Interesting as the context is I'll spare you all the bother and just give
what he says:
"Pythagoras called the quinary number [ie. 5] the nuptial number,
which indicates a wedding and the consummation of a marriage, being
composed of the triad, which is the first odd and superfluous
number, and of the dyad, which is the first even number. This
signifies the male and female in copulation. Indeed at Rome, in
the olden times, they would light five wax candles on a wedding day;
and it was not permissible to light more, even at the marriage of
the wealthiest, or fewer, even at the marriage of the very poorest.
Moreover, in the olden days the pagans used to implore the
assistance of five deities, or one god for five good offices, on
behalf of those about to be married." (p.342f)
rock on
--
Chris
ps. The Superficial Depth CD on side-effects is pretty good - listen to it
every now again.
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 08:38:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: ATOM HEART/LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS MAILING-LIST (#3) <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: (atom) lead - "Ondas" by Datacide
Morning.
This guy's got the following AH/related for sale/trade in his current
list:
Chris Gosselin <brap@sonic.net>
> datacide: ondas - 10
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:17:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: Noah <njurcin@orion.it.luc.edu>
To: Ohmbiont <ambient@hyperreal.org>, Mother <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: (atom) Review: M.P.A."MU"
Masters of Psychedelic Ambiance "MU" (RI028)
How much fun it must be to be able to release material like this. 27
tracks of mind-warping weirdness from the heralded Masters who brought you
the marvelous Datacide project series. This disc is quite the curiosity!
Not as similar-sounding to Datacide as one might initially be inclined to
think, MU is a mindset prism, a refraction device for the headphonaut's
moods. Many seemingly incongruous tones and atmospheres are strung
together until anticipation and nostalgia become indistinguishable. And
don't be deceived, this multitude of sonic segments continuously flows into
3 continuous pieces that convey the feel of the pleasantly overextended
experimental style AND the well-seasoned and time-tested sound. And this
won't be your average please-don't-peal-me-off-the-couch-man chill-out
session. Only the all-terrain ambienteers will survive, as the listener
frequently deals with counterintuitive changes and sequencing
contradictions. Grinding, trickling, howling, warbling, squeezable
metallic textures will help melt down those rational thoughts and aid in
the discovery of new, more potent mental alloys!
I suppose there may only be 2 stand-alone song-like tracks here, #18
(Backward Journey) and #23 (Rather Sleep Then Dance). This latter track
was also subsequently released in a slightly altered form on the Real
Intelligence (RI033) compilation, and may be suggestive of both the post-
partyvibe schools of philosophy and reality-permeating synchronicities.
We begin with Start Smart (#1), a simple "beep" which conveniently allows
said headphonaut to adjust the volume to the appropriate level. Heaven
knows all these darn ahmbiant discs we are faced with in this day and age
are recorded at drastically different loudnesses! Now, you need not fear
that your floating relaxation tones rise to the roar of a freshly layed
jetstream... Owtch! Immediately after this duty is fulfilled, we proceed
to track 2, Artificial Countryside (not to be confused with the Artificial
Seaside of 2nd Nature), which yields images of mechanical crickets perched
on reflective tubular reeds and a nearby color-cycling, frequency-babbling
brook. A pulse rolls in every now and then while a chimed melody trails
off. The next barrage of loopy strangeness comes labeled as Lotus (#3),
Tonic Scanner, Sequence Gardening, DAT Prayer, and Chi Filter (#7). This
goes from the gently meditative to a swirl of sounds that hint at the
fleeting random neural messages that disperse just before us humans fall
asleep. "Song" 1 ends with a reprise called Coming Down (#8).
Next phase, the narrowband assault passed through the Infinite Oscillator
(#9), morphed into a biodegradable polymer via the Plastify (#10) noise
treatment, and then the harshness dies out in the subsequent stages of
Holycore and Psychic Magic Show (#12). Distance or intentional
nonrecognisability is the main feel here. Hints of insects flying by your
ears (perhaps the artificial barnyard?!) and reverse dripping funk
culminate in Weirdom (#13) and the rgb-friendly Technicolor (#14). This
gives way to Random Radio (#15), representing the fading thoughts of Gaia
as her electromagnetic transmissions and Ethnic Overtones (#16) blend with
the moist, breathing chillosphere. You will next invoke the Instant Spirit
(#17), who also makes an appearance on Laswell's City of Light during
Kashi, which Tetsu also constructed. Hints of the Datacide strategy
emerge. Sit back now, here comes the music proper with Backward Journey
(#18), in the atypical split channel mix that we've learned to expect from
the occasional Rather Interesting release. And we've got Geeetar, folks,
yes look out it's coming for you! A solo of mother-spacely proportions
hits like the rocker collective. Voice as well, seemingly in both Japanese
and English, audibly tearing your drivers to shreds. The only certain
things I can hear are, "It's not fake, end of century, Magic Display
(#19)," along with some other ambiguous vox action. This disc is something
I'm going to be playing on New Year's Eve this year if I can help it.
Loud!!! Flash Up (#20), and then Funny Concept (#21) which reminds me of
the all-too familiar chapel organ outro.
Phase 3 of the album: Noisetalgic Vibe (#22) acts as the intro to Rather
Sleep Then Dance (#23), which make much more sense in the context of this
album. And if that isn't enough, Private Brain Session (#24), Internal
Effect, and Baby, I'm Home should finish you off. I'll close in saying
that if you ever see this disc for sale and don't buy it, particularly if
you're a Datacide fan, you will regret it till the end of your days when,
that is if, you hear it....
for mpg action, goto www.sleepbot.com/ambience/artist.html and then click
on "Fax Artists" and then click on "Tetsu Inoue" and
then scroll down and click on any of the 4 clips there
for graphix, goto www.hyperreal.org/music/labels/Rather_Interesting
and scroll down to the Masters
no@h
. . . . . . ..... . . . . . .
Fr33 T|b3+!
. . . . . . ..... . . . . . .
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 14:48:30 -0700
From: "~(({[Endemic~Distortion]}))~" <jpklein@flash.net>
To: Uwe and Friends <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: (atom) [Fwd: whitezone-l New arrivals at Kosmos]
This may be of interest....
jeff
---------- Forwarded Message ----------
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 20:35:20 +0200
From: Carsten <Carsten@trance.net>
To: kosmos@trance.net
Subject: whitezone-l New arrivals at Kosmos
Hi there,
I've been taking it very easy for the summer, but I'm now back in the
saddle again. First of all, I do now got a new URL:
http://www.trance.net/kosmos
The first arrivals this autumn are some new and some not so new
masterpieces of psychedelic ambience. Unfortunately they are more
expensive than my "regular" CD's :-/
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
MASTERS OF PSYCHEDELIC AMBIANCE: MU (RI 028) $21.70 / £13.00
Luckily I managed to get hold on a few copies of this legendary release
from Tetsu Inoue & Atom Heart. I have only two copies for sale at the
moment, but I will try to get more if people are interested. Sorry about
the price, but it wasn't cheap for me either.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok, that's it for now - more news will follow shortly.
Cheers,
Carsten
--
Kosmos Tel: +47 2219 5651
Lyngveien 52 b Fax: +47 2240 4541
N-1182 Oslo Mailto:kosmos@trance.net
Norway http://www.trance.net/kosmos
---------- End ----------
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:46:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: ATOM HEART/LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS MAILING-LIST (#3) <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: (atom) lead - Senor Coconut
Oh.
And here's something Jeff's got for sale in his own current list:
Jeff Klein <jpklein@flash.net>
> Here we go - just a few. The catch is, I'm off of work THIS week and
> would like to get as much of this as possible wrapped up so I can.. 1.
> Get my hands on some badly needed $... and 2. Get this out in the mail
> asap. In other words, I can't *hold* things too long. Add 2$ for postage
> in the contiguous US. All cs, all in VG+ condition. Thanks for looking.
>
> Senor Coconut - Gran Braile Con... 12$
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:16:18 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mark Kolmar <mkolmar@xnet.com>
To: Atom Heart list <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: (atom) CD-R trading
Someone suggested asking Atom Heart about this. Officially, CD-R trading
is copyright infringement. (Merely because a title is unavailable does not
mean the holder of the copyright in that title has relinquished any of his
rights with regard to control over its distribution, or anything else.)
However, if the discs are out of print, there is no other way to obtain
them. In many cases, even if you get an official copy, it would be from
someone else reselling it. He and I have discussed the possibility and
practicality of making out-of-print titles available in On-Demand editions.
He is considering that. If or when it were to happen, it would be at an
unknown time in the future. Meanwhile, I would personally suggest that if
you are going to trade that you keep it low-profile and not-for-profit. As
a member of MACOS, I assure you that a position which advocates fair use of
samples does not mean a composer will be any less vigilant about copying of
complete works.
--Mark
__ <http://www.xnet.com/~mkolmar/BurningRome> <MPEG 3 & RealAudio tracks>
October 19th: SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:08:05 -0500
From: Larry Terrell <lterrell@yourcall.com>
To: mother@hyperreal.org
Subject: (atom) bitniks still available
hey gang
if anyone is interested, the following gentleman still has a copy of
bitniks and earcloud-victor sol and andrew martin both on hypnotism
please write to
rpolley@isimu.edu
rick polley, formerly synaptic records
larry t
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:47:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: ATOM HEART/LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS MAILING-LIST (#3) <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: (atom) lead - Softcore, Real Intelligence, Jet Chamber, Second
Nature
Heya.
I just wanted to let those of you who might be interested know that
this guy's got a few AH/related items for sale/trade from his current list:
Robert Merlak <robert.merlak@ri.tel.hr>
> JET CHAMBER (PETE NAMLOOK, ATOM HEART) FAX (PK 08/102)
> SOFTCORE (ATOM HEART) FAX (PS 08/53)
> SECOND NATURE (BILL LASWELL, ATOM HEART, TETSU INOUE) FAX (PS 08/78)
> REAL INTELLIGENCE RI 033 rather interesting
> $15 (if shipped without jewel case)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:13:48 +0100
From: Tim Wright <timwright@dial.pipex.com>
To: mother@hyperreal.org
Subject: (atom) Naturalist
Is this a misprint I see before me?
I'm looking at the inside of the back insert, and it's plain white. I
assume it should be all woody, and maybe have track titles and times on,
like Brown does, or something like that...maybe?
Tim W>
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:44:43 -0700
From: "~(({[Endemic~Distortion]}))~" <jpklein@flash.net>
To: Tim Wright <timwright@dial.pipex.com>,
Uwe and Friends <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: (atom) Naturalist
If you mean the inside of the back insert, it is white. No names or
titiles.
jeff
--
dancing/about/architechture "...with wandering steps and slow..." ICQ904008
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:17:33 +0100
From: Tim Wright <timwright@dial.pipex.com>
To: mother@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (atom) Naturalist
Yes, exactly. Plain white, seems very un-RI to me...
You think it's intentional?
Tim W>
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:41:24 -0700
From: "~(({[Endemic~Distortion]}))~" <jpklein@flash.net>
To: Tim Wright <timwright@dial.pipex.com>,
Uwe and Friends <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: (atom) Naturalist
That's the way mine came so I assumed it was entirely intentional. It's
*so* natural that to put names on the songs might violate their pristine
and completely natural occurance. In other words, I dunno.
jeff
--
dancing/about/architechture "...with wandering steps and slow..." ICQ904008
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:10:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sean Cooper <scooper@best.com>
To: mother@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (atom) Naturalist
in the interview i did with uwe for urban sounds (going live on monday, i
swear!!), he describes naturalist as one long track. so even though there
are clear distinctions between its various "movements," the lack of track
titles isn't surprising. the white inlay card seems strange, but maybe
he's hinting at a subtle dichotomy: an electronic music cd called
"naturalist"? think about it...
sc
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:19:12 -0700
From: "~(({[Endemic~Distortion]}))~" <jpklein@flash.net>
To: Sean Cooper <scooper@best.com>
Cc: Uwe and Friends <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: (atom) Naturalist
Sean Cooper wrote:
> in the interview i did with uwe for urban sounds (going live on monday, i
> swear!!), he describes naturalist as one long track. so even though
> there are clear distinctions between its various "movements," the lack of
> track titles isn't surprising. the white inlay card seems strange, but
> maybe he's hinting at a subtle dichotomy: an electronic music cd called
> "naturalist"? think about it...
Yes... there's no doubt about it - in fact, I thought it was completely
hilarious the first time I spun it.... he doesn't even get the word
"Naturalist" out before it gets completely and synthetically mangled. The
whole thing (imo) is a lovely piss-take. It's also a showcase for Uwe's
stunning ability to atke *natural* sounds and warp them - subtle at first,
so it's sometimes extremely difficult to find that line where the piece has
moved from *faux acoustic* over to electronic mayhem. The opening track
for Gran Baile Con... Senor Coconut is perhaps my favorite example of Uwe's
brilliance here... fake Latin to digital madness to that lovely and
incredible ambient fade-out. Makes me drool every time I hear it. Back
to The Naturalist, you can definitely hear the motif repeating throuhout
the entire record. Excellent.
jeff
--
dancing/about/architechture "...with wandering steps and slow..." ICQ904008
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:38:09 -0700
From: charles uzzell edwards <faxlabel@sirius.com>
To: mother@hyperreal.org
Subject: (atom) Dropshadow Disease.
NEW RELEASE ON RATHER INTERESTING dropshadow disease
atom heart always keeps his promises. first of all you will really get a
full colour clipart poster (as the sticker on the cover says) when
purchasing this cd. second, here is the neo-pop album you were waiting
for. the 11 songs are dealing in rather interesting's typical manner with
items not all of you may know about... but this really doesn't matter.
*dropshadow disease* is about photoshop plug-in's, typographies and certain
experiences connected with the use and abuse of what some people call
design. *dropshadow disease* is a blend out of eary melodies, catchy
rhythms, funky basslines, advanced editing, unheard textures and sing-along
lyrics performed by some of the most skilled voices of apple's *macintalk*.
*dropshadow disease* translates the sound of the previous *r.i.* releases
*schnittstelle* and *naturalist* into a neo-pop surrounding. from loungy
softpop tunes like *kpt*, or pop/jazz fusions like *dingbats*, via abstract
titles such as *cut 'n' paste* or *duplex* to little cute arrangements like
*fototienda* (sung in spanish). AN ALBUM YOUR CHILDREN WILL STILL FIND
STRANGE BUT FASCINATING!
ARTIST: DROPSHADOW DISEASE
TITLE: DROPSHADOW DISEASE
LABEL: RATHER INTERESTING
CAT#: RI049
FORMAT: CD <45 MIN.>
RELEASE DATE:
DISTRIBUTOR: FAX LABEL U.S.A.
TRACKLISTING:
01. DROPSHADOW DISEASE
02. PING PONG (TRUE TYPE)
03. FARBE/BEISPIEL/EINRASTEN
04. DUPLEX (KURVE, NICHT MODUS)
05. BOUNCING INITITALS
06. FOTOTIENDA
07. KPT V. 1.0
08. KPT V. 1.1
09. CUT 'N' PASTE
10. DINGBATS
11. PUSH THE LITTLE DAISIES...
respects cue
faxlabel @ 87 ethel ave, #2, mill valley CA,94941 u.s.a.
dial 415 3837990 realaudio fun : http://www.faxlabel.com
faxlabel art + info : http://www.faxlabel.com/faxlabel.html
dynamic HTML graphics + sounds http://www.madxs.com
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 06:32:07 -0400
From: Jason J. Tar <tarjason@pilot.msu.edu>
To: mother@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (atom) Dropshadow Disease.
It may just be me, but that sounded WAY too much fun! :) Don't think I've
ever anticipated an Atom Heart release before! Release date anyone???
So any reviews of _Naturalist_ besides saying that it's back cover is
blank? And also...anyone still looking for _Dots_? I can get yet ANOTHER.
<augh, why can't the store get something in that I want!>.
JJTar
---
Peace Hugs and Unity Jason J. Tar
W. W. J. D?
(What would Jason Do?)
http://pilot.msu.edu/user/tarjason
ICQ@13792120
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 00:03:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: laerm <laerm@voicenet.com>
To: mother@hyperreal.org
Subject: (atom) _pop artificielle_
when's the release date again? i've forgotten.
*
####
a disturbance in a system. ####
laerm. @voicenet.com ##:#
see the stars, they're shining bright/everything's alright tonight
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 23:36:34 -0400
From: William Perez <will@panix.com>
To: mother@hyperreal.org
Subject: (atom) RI web update
I have posted web pages with artwork and info for Naturalist and Dropshadow
Disease on my Rather Interesting page:
http://www.hyperreal.org/music/labels/rather_interesting/
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:12:04 +0100
From: Sacha Varma <sacha@ssl.co.uk>
To: mother@hyperreal.org
Subject: (atom) Which most like Lassigue?
Hi -
I'm new to the list, and in fact to Lassigue Bendthaus. I picked up the
Biohazard single in 1992 for 50p and completely by mistake (I was after a
single by the band Biohazard!) and have been hooked since. I then got
Matter (at Selectadisc in London) and Render (at Mixup in Mexico City -
couldn't believe they stocked it), and finally cloned last week (at the MVE
in Notting Hill Gate).
Really I have 2 questions:
1. What other stuff by Uwe Schmidt is most like Lassigue? I go for the hard
stuff like the opening 2 tracks on cloned. I bought semi-acoustic
nature, which is good but not aggressive enough for me (again from
Selectadisc on Berwick street; it was under 3 quid, think they still
have some in the techno sale section).
2. Where can I get this stuff in the London/the UK/Europe? Sister Ray just
off Berwick street stocks a lot of the RI releases and some of the LB
CDs, plus a load of FAX releases. The major record shops (Tower, HMV,
Virgin) don't, or at least I don't know where to look in the techno
sections.
Oh - I also bought Morphogenetic Fields (green cover; I think I saw someone
in the list archive saying it was mostly white, but mine is a virtually
all-green digipak). Unfortunately it does nothing for me, so if someone
wants to swap I'd be happy to. Don't really know what for, though -
suggestions, given my predilaction for beat & rhythm and a general
indifference to ambient?
Anyway, it's good to see there are others out there who are into LB!
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 98 17:56:24 PDT
From: B. Yost <byost@megsinet.net>
To: mother@hyperreal.org
Subject: (atom) Burnmedia?
I've been reading through the 1996 digests (much more entertaining than it
sounds; this is a nice list), and have on more than one occasion wanted to
check out the Burnmedia site (www.burnmedia.com) that gets mentioned now
and again. However, it doesn't seem to exist anymore. Anyone know if it
has been moved to a new server or whether it is just plain gone?
Feel free of reply off-list, and thanks.
-- Brad
P.S. Perhaps this is a bit like jumping ahead to read the final chapter of
a book when you're still in the middle, but in late 1996 Chris was
advancing a complex but interesting theory to account for the the
numbers said by the digitized voice at the end of several RI discs.
What has time proven or disproven with respect to a method to the
sequence?
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:58:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mark Turner <mturner@netcom.com>
To: mother@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (atom) Burnmedia?
> I've been reading through the 1996 digests (much more entertaining than
> it sounds; this is a nice list), and have on more than one occasion
> wanted to check out the Burnmedia site (www.burnmedia.com) that gets
> mentioned now and again. However, it doesn't seem to exist anymore.
> Anyone know if it has been moved to a new server or whether it is just
> plain gone?
I hear it is currently under reconstruction. Try again in a week or so.
--
Mark Turner | Rocky Rococo's "Jazzadelica" on KFJC
mturner@netcom.com | Sundays 10pm-2am, 89.7 FM, Los Altos Hills, CA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:10:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sean Cooper <scooper@best.com>
To: mother@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (atom) Burnmedia?
hahaha! burnmedia. ah, those were the days. bedroom authoring when the
web was still html 2.0 and tables were the hardest thing going. well,
burnmedia's pretty much on hold for now (an economically depressed era of
my life swallowed up my internic dns registration). however, all of
content previously housed at burnmedia.com can still be accessed. go here:
http://www.best.com/~scooper/burn.html/home.html
from there you can access a bunch of old, out-of-date, badly written
reviews and some old, slow-downloading .au files. miserable, really. ;)
thanks for noticing,
sc
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:37:27 -0700
From: "~(({[Endemic~Distortion]}))~" <jpklein@flash.net>
To: Uwe and Friends <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: (atom) Contact...?
Anyone here know how to contact Uwe... email or whatever? I have a good
buddy who works with the Acid software group at Sonic Foundry who would
like to see if he;d be interested in a project with their company. Email
me privately if you have any clue... and thanks.
jeff
--
dancing/about/architecture "...with wandering steps and slow..." ICQ904008
From will@panix.com Tue Dec 1 21:57:53 1998
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:15:30 -0400
From: William Perez <will@panix.com>
To: "~(({[Endemic~Distortion]}))~" <jpklein@flash.net>,
Uwe and Friends <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: (atom) Contact...?
jpklein@flash.net wrote:
>Anyone here know how to contact Uwe... email or whatever?
all the contact information for Uwe is contained in the del haze newsletter
which is posted almost every month to this mailing list:
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
:: ::
:: del haze entertainment ::
:: pedro lira 1473 a ::
:: providencia ::
:: santiago ::
:: ::
:: tel: ++56-2-2042728 ::
:: fax: ++56-2-3419870 ::
:: e-mail: delhaze@bbs.itn.cl ::
:: ::
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 00:42:02 -0700
From: boomboomkids <galaxey@earthlink.net>
To: ATOM HEART/LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS MAILING-LIST (#3) <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: (atom) Jet Chamber IV review?
can someone post a review of JC4? I love 1 and 3, haven't heard 2, but
have been told it's not soo good. I think the jazzy dn'b of 3 was well
done a bit too lengthy in some spots, but a solid piece. How does 4
compare to 3?
thanks
g
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 04:55:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: ATOM HEART/LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS MAILING-LIST (#3) <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: (atom) lead - Flextone 2xlp.
Morning.
This guy's got the Flextone double-vinyl for sale/trade:
William O'Brien <william.obrien@citadel.edu>
> Hi there, cash or trades welcome. Email me for my want list. Prices
> include shipping costs.
>
> Flextone (Rather Interesting) offer
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:57:05 +0000
From: David Smith <dgesmith@LAB0.VET.ED.AC.UK>
To: mother@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (atom) Jet Chamber IV review?
boomboomkids wanted a review of JC4. For what it's worth, here are some of
my thoughts.
I have been thinking about JC4 for a while and wondered myself why it
hadn't been aired much on mother. Perhaps others opinions co-incide with
mine, but from previous experience that seems unlikely. Have not listened
to it in a while, but went through a phase of listening to it in the car to
and from work. I have to give it a mixed response myself. 3 tracks, all
quite lengthy.
1. This has some rather tremendous rhythmic components (Uwe?) but is
layered over with too much instrumentation of a rather "progressive
rock" type, i.e. Emerson Lake & Palmer, Yes, Rush. Not good. Uwe just
about manages to save the day and make it bearable. Have to say, the
prog tendencies are the main reason why I've gone cold on much of the
Fax sound - look forward, not back! There's a setting on synths called
"archetypal 70s", yeah?
2. Unbearable cold and overlong intro straight out of the "Big Children's
Book of 70s Space Music". This is redeemed by a nice hip-hoppy rhythmic
passage, into which "Wish You Were Here" type guitar starts to intrude,
then it takes over in real prog guitar solo hell trying to be jazz
(Grant Green, Kenny Burrell it ain't). At last it returns to the beats.
Half a good track needing some splice and dice. Again too much Namlook,
not enough kool, man.
3. Oddly enough, the most "together" on JC4 for me. I can only descibe it
as inter-galactic spaghetti western hop chill. Works for me, won't for
everyone.
Overall, not bad, with some superb bits. Half a good CD. What about
anyone else's thoughts?
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:41:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sean Cooper <scooper@best.com>
To: mother@hyperreal.org
Subject: (atom) <!-- Urban Sounds_3 is live and direct -->
hi there. i thought i'd pass this along; sorry for any redundancy. the
latest issue of urban sounds is live, and features a lengthy interview with
atom heart, as well as a realaudio track from his recent _schnittstelle_
album. check out the full skinny below.
thanks,
sc
---------- Forwarded Message ----------
Hello and welcome to the third installment of Urban Sounds! Read on for a
blow-by-blow of this issue's contents, or head straight to the source for
the full experience:
http://www.urbansounds.com/
------------- - - - - - -
// In The Studio
* audioCode: data mining computer music's future/past --- >
This issue, Urban Sounds explores the impact of the personal computer on
current underground electronic music. Focusing on the overlap between
computer music's historical roots and a new generation of desktop
experimentalists, we spoke with five key artists porting post-techno to a
digital future: Atom Heart (Rather Interesting/Kk), Kim Cascone
(Rastermusic), John Bischoff (Artifact/The Hub/Mills College), Tetsu Inoue
(Tzadik/Caipirinha/Fax), and Robert Henke (Imbalance/Monolake/Chain
Reaction). Also, in an Urban Sounds exclusive, we asked each artist to
contribute a full-length track -- most from forthcoming releases or
otherwise unobtainable -- that you can download and listen to in RealAudio.
So get with it!
// Reviews
Our Styles section is jam packed with a ton of recent and forthcoming
releases, an expanded jungle section, and more audio than you can shake a
compression algorithm at. Check the latest from Autechre, Pole, Atom
Heart, Underground Resistance, Decoder, Irresistible Force, DJ Q-Bert,
Elementz of Noize, Larry Heard, Mannequin Lung, I-f, Mouse On Mars, Jason
Szostek, Andrea Parker, Hat, Thomas Brinkmann, Tetsu Inoue, Makai, Herbert,
Farmers Manual, and dozens more.
http://www.urbansounds.com/home/styles/us_styles.html
// DJ Mixes
And don't forget to check out our full-length RealAudio mixes in a range of
styles, from techstep to Detroit techno to deepest dub. Contributors
include Phunckateck's DJ Sage, Justice League's Joe Rice, Stellar Trax
Sound System's DJ Ron, and a couple more you might recognize.
So peep the issue and let us know what you think. We're putting together a
mailing list to make these transmissions more manageable in the future, so
give us a shout. Also, do us the favor of passing this message along to
anyone you think might be interested. We're contributor-run and without ad
budget, so every little bit helps. Thanks!
http://www.urbansounds.com/
Peace.
Sean Cooper
Urban Sounds
---------- End ----------
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 22:55:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Miller <evil@digital.net>
To: ATOM HEART/LASSIGUE BENDTHAUS MAILING-LIST (#3) <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: (atom) Happy Birthday Mother!
Hey Hey.
As of today, the mother-list is three years old! And you know what
that means... another giveaway. I have an original copy of the Australian
cassette-only Atom Heart album, "Live P@", which I will give to one of the
people who can answer this question:
Name the other three `live' Atom Heart releases.
------------------------------------------------
Please e-mail me privately if you think you know the answer(s). I
will pick one person at random (from those participating) to receive the
cassette, free and postpaid anywhere in the world. I will announce the
winner on Friday the 2nd.
evil.
.`-).
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